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Posted: 15 years ago
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...I have been avoiding all the maheswari drama the last 2 weeks...bcuz i didnt want 2 mess up my naksh mood...so i dont kno the details of what has been going on...all i understand is the kaka kaki drama unfolded and dadi is somehow responsible 4 it...and now omi has decided 2 seperate....this is all that i have been able 2 figure out...without having to put myself through the torture chamber and watching the episodes...if i am missing anything relevant please some1 fill me in...
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I thought it was finally nice to c Vishambar and Omi talk...i have never saw them say more then one or two words...they had a truly brotherly moment...even though we hate the track being run during this time, this is a common problem alot of families deal with...and i think kudo's 2 the show 4 raising these issues....hopefully they will be able to show us the journey of rebuilding a lost relationship. In the process help other's realize how and what they can do differently... (although they really do need to cut the duhki aathma crap down....way down...and the ugly crying needs 2 stop..)and focus more on how 2 restore and rebuild relationships...I would also like to see kaki speak up, why is she just accepting the decision made by OMI, she needs 2 speak up and fight 4 her marriage. She has a major say and I hope she uses it.
As 4 the movie being an issue....They come from a ULTRA Conservative background...we knew that the movie would be a issue...yes even in this day and age...but from what i understand there is still cultures that hold these type of beliefs as their foundation, its not only their traditions but their way of life as well...we say that they have 2 change with the times, but most of them fear exactly that!
They fear that if they start loosening up on the customs and riti rivaj, that their future generations will eventually lose touch with their roots. Some families hold onto their customs and accept some changes with modern times and some still hold on to the ancestrial roots with no compromise.. You can see that contrast between the signhania's and the maheswari's. Although both families are traditional and religious, they both have different views as far as what is acceptable and what is not..
Bhabhi Ma giving Gayatri the lecture that indicates alot of things about how society operates. Most IL's wouldnt miss an opportunity 2 drag the other family in as a punching bag...It's disgusting...and ppl need 2 stop this vicious cycle...she automatically assumed that it was akshara that might have suggested the movie and clearly indicated it. When the son demanded things even b4 he got married its taken as cute, innocent..nadani..all acceptable....but when the bahu enters and they may want do the exact same things that he did b4 it would be made into a hungama...
Dadi needs 2 stop acting like a victim and realize where she screwed up and how she can help repair some of the damage. She had this Goody goody image that is shattered...so what??.....lady get off ur tailbone and start practicing what u preach!!!!
Akshara is a very bright girl..she is not given enough credit. They way she handeled everything thrown her way in a few days time span is remarkable..the extreme crying was a bit much, but should not overshadow her strength and maturity during this whole transaction. Any girl would fall apart if they had 2 go through all that in the 1st few days of marriage, but she didnt let any of it weaken her. She faced it and moved past it..👏
Even though i think its idiotic that he had 2 ask 4 permission, seeing their family background i understand it...Why did Naitik even have to give specifics?....he could have just said i want to her take out...😕
Dadaji is a stickler 4 rules and cutoms, but he is also reasonable.......he will let them go!

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Shanta: you raise some very valid points. The discussion between the two brothers was necessary without it being blown out of proportion...now, what remains to be seen is if the reconciliation is done with subtlety or if it becomes a cry fest...

Bhabhima's whole tirade today was very grating to me...to somehow blame Akshara and drag her family and their outlook into what "needs to be said" was an insult to her I really felt for Akshara today. As you say though, this is a reality for many brides. And many would argue that in a joint family setting, this is the norm. But it is very uncouth, and there is no thought applied to how their own daughters would feel if they were put in the same position in their own sasurals--would they like it if their daughters were hurt by their in-laws' words--should they just grin it and bear it?...Highly doubtful!

From the time Akshara realized that the movie date may not be a reality, to the time Naitik convinced her he would make it a reality, Akshara handled everything beautifully. Her understanding look to Naitik at the dining table spoke volumes...she may have been brought up in a more progressive family, but she fully comprehends this new family and their idea of what is 'acceptable.' I think the creatives are also trying to show us that while the movie was something she was looking forward to, she was ok if it were not to happen...anyone else in her position might not be so understanding...and actually thrown a hissy fit! But thats not our Akshara!

While daddaji has been fair before, his views on movies are very archaic...so its a toss-up whether he will agree... I did enjoy seeing Naitik wanting to take her out despite Akshara telling him that daddaji may not agree. The scene right before the epi ended was touching because it showed he cared. I actually hope Naitik asks daddaji if he can just take her out, rather than specifically mention that they are going for a movie (I think someone else mentioned this in the other thread, and I agree 😃) This may be more fruitful...


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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree with both of you. I also think they are beginning to show a new track. I felt the way daddaji was controlling Naitik's driving on Friday and this film issue is just the base. The elders are tooooo controlling. Daddaji et al are eating into Naksh's privacy. They have absolutely no time for themseves. It is only a matter of time before Naitik will start rebelling. I want to write more but have to rush for work...will continue in the evening.
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I agree with both of you. I also think they are beginning to show a new track. I felt the way daddaji was controlling Naitik's driving on Friday and this film issue is just the base. The elders are tooooo controlling. Daddaji et al are eating into Naksh's privacy. They have absolutely no time for themseves. It is only a matter of time before Naitik will start rebelling. I want to write more but have to rush for work...will continue in the evening.



Interesting thought, Nishita...I only hope that there is no finger pointing at Akshara if Naitik does rebel...this has to be handled carefully...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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👏 Thanks Shanta & Anjali for ur viewpoints...i love to read them :) and now herez what i feel (seriously..pucca..no jokes now)

First of all, Omi and Kaki..Omi i feel can't handle this fact that his marriage was a failure bec. of his own limitations (and not Sunaina's) ..he has finally accepted that he's flawed and he doesn't want Sunaina to put up with him anymore (no matter how stupid the idea of seperation might be..bec. at this stage, that lady has nowhere to go, nor can she think of settling down again in order to find some happiness)..Dadi , yeah she's acting like a victim these days.....she's doing tht "jaap" and giving those expressions as if somebody died...or is about to die...all this mess will surely affect Akshara bec. her in laws are nerds 🤢 now they will say her family is too modern , ab divorces bhi hone lage Maheshwari's mein 🤢 first varsha's love marriage then no pallu, then varsha studying and now omi's divorce ! who cares 😡


I didn't like the scene where Daddaji is telling his friend "lagaam haath mein honi chahiye" ....so he's controlling not only his family but he's taken the contract for all beta bahu's of Udaipur........okay we owe a LOT to our elders, infact we can never payback what they did for us, but that doesn't mean they run our lives through remote control........Daddaji is in la la land..all his children , Rashmi Naitik, Nandini, everybody likes to watch movies..they discuss them as if they didn't miss any..then howcome Daddaji is not aware ? i understand it's impossible to change their viewpoint and accepting their wish is considered giving "respect" to them...but till what point? what impression will akshara have of Naitik? we want to give the best to our children but by controlling their lives, interfering with their freedom, not letting them do mistakes, we NEVER let them grow ! by doing this, Daddaji is making Naitik more and more dependent & weak..isn't he old enough to take his decisions ? Naitik must come out of the shadow of his family..tht's why i always supported his decision of doing a job first...i liked tht track very much and i'm sure they will come back to it at appropriate time..

i feel this is a really stupid thing ke he is thinking so much to ask for a small permission BUT this is the beginning of a very big problem which might come up in future....Naitik wanted to take her out...he's doing it for her happiness...and he's confident tht Daddaji will agree....i felt now it's an ego issue for him tht he will manofy Daddaji....he can't lose....and mujhe sach mein nahi lagta tht Daddaji will agree..this is the just the beginning of a bigger conflict....if a movie can create so much tension then what will happen when Akshara will put forward her wish to study further?


bewakoof no. 1 Gayitri and Bhabhi ma..when she's asking Naitik for a wish then why did they both drag Daddaji? itni si baat nahi maan sakte naitik ki?

Bhabhi ma putting pressure on Gayitri, well that's a reality with almost every household ...Gayitri is under pressure most of the time ..Bhabhi ma wud never want to go against her husband's wish ..she's like a mirror image of Daddaji..she repeats whatever he says..she doesn't have a brain of her own..typical wife....Gayitri is stuck b/w her son & her duty as a wife, bahu and saas....she's actually in a difficult position bec. she's answerable for akshara and Naitik's actions...We can't escape from this fact that the buck HAS to stop on the bahu only....AND the husbands NEVER EVER understand this politics of females....it's their house, they are aware of everybody's nature , it's a normal thing for them......they can't guess throughout their lives , after marriage HOW their behavior affect their wives position in the house....

I really wish Akshara gets the best of everything...whatever she desire..her husband's love & affection, his family's affection..without any friction..tht's called "balancing ur life" and naitik and akshara will keep doing it for the rest of their lives...balance b/w ur life and ur family.........sometimes balance will be lost but aa jayega waapas bec. pyaar ek aisa bandhan hota hai, woh kahi nahi jaa sakta...it'll break only in extreme circumstances.....


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Originally posted by: _charu_

👏 Thanks Shanta & Anjali for ur viewpoints...i love to read them :) and now herez what i feel (seriously..pucca..no jokes now)

First of all, Omi and Kaki..Omi i feel can't handle this fact that his marriage was a failure bec. of his own limitations (and not Sunaina's) ..he has finally accepted that he's flawed and he doesn't want Sunaina to put up with him anymore (no matter how stupid the idea of seperation might be..bec. at this stage, that lady has nowhere to go, nor can she think of settling down again in order to find some happiness)..Dadi , yeah she's acting like a victim these days.....she's doing tht "jaap" and giving those expressions as if somebody died...or is about to die...all this mess will surely affect Akshara bec. her in laws are nerds 🤢 now they will say her family is too modern , ab divorces bhi hone lage Maheshwari's mein 🤢 first varsha's love marriage then no pallu, then varsha studying and now omi's divorce ! who cares 😡


I didn't like the scene where Daddaji is telling his friend "lagaam haath mein honi chahiye" ....so he's controlling not only his family but he's taken the contract for all beta bahu's of Udaipur........okay we owe a LOT to our elders, infact we can never payback what they did for us, but that doesn't mean they run our lives through remote control........Daddaji is in la la land..all his children , Rashmi Naitik, Nandini, everybody likes to watch movies..they discuss them as if they didn't miss any..then howcome Daddaji is not aware ? i understand it's impossible to change their viewpoint and accepting their wish is considered giving "respect" to them...but till what point? what impression will akshara have of Naitik? we want to give the best to our children but by controlling their lives, interfering with their freedom, not letting them do mistakes, we NEVER let them grow ! by doing this, Daddaji is making Naitik more and more dependent & weak..isn't he old enough to take his decisions ? Naitik must come out of the shadow of his family..tht's why i always supported his decision of doing a job first...i liked tht track very much and i'm sure they will come back to it at appropriate time..

i feel this is a really stupid thing ke he is thinking so much to ask for a small permission BUT this is the beginning of a very big problem which might come up in future....Naitik wanted to take her out...he's doing it for her happiness...and he's confident tht Daddaji will agree....i felt now it's an ego issue for him tht he will manofy Daddaji....he can't lose....and mujhe sach mein nahi lagta tht Daddaji will agree..this is the just the beginning of a bigger conflict....if a movie can create so much tension then what will happen when Akshara will put forward her wish to study further?


bewakoof no. 1 Gayitri and Bhabhi ma..when she's asking Naitik for a wish then why did they both drag Daddaji? itni si baat nahi maan sakte naitik ki?

Bhabhi ma putting pressure on Gayitri, well that's a reality with almost every household ...Gayitri is under pressure most of the time ..Bhabhi ma wud never want to go against her husband's wish ..she's like a mirror image of Daddaji..she repeats whatever he says..she doesn't have a brain of her own..typical wife....Gayitri is stuck b/w her son & her duty as a wife, bahu and saas....she's actually in a difficult position bec. she's answerable for akshara and Naitik's actions...We can't escape from this fact that the buck HAS to stop on the bahu only....AND the husbands NEVER EVER understand this politics of females....it's their house, they are aware of everybody's nature , it's a normal thing for them......they can't guess throughout their lives , after marriage HOW their behavior affect their wives position in the house....

I really wish Akshara gets the best of everything...whatever she desire..her husband's love & affection, his family's affection..without any friction..tht's called "balancing ur life" and naitik and akshara will keep doing it for the rest of their lives...balance b/w ur life and ur family.........sometimes balance will be lost but aa jayega waapas bec. pyaar ek aisa bandhan hota hai, woh kahi nahi jaa sakta...it'll break only in extreme circumstances.....


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well said di.......it cldnt hv been any betta...........
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wat I dnt understand is tht dis show is all abt love after marriage...ddnt kaka-kaki do an arranged marriage?????......wer has their luv 4 each other gone???....wat r d creatives tryin 2 show??????
daddaji is tryin 2 control another family????....isnt it more thn enough tht hez controllin his own family?????......n I ddnt lik bhabhima yester....so wat if a husband-wife go 2 watch a movie........jst cuz she ddnt go doesnt mean tht others shldnt go......
hv bhabhima n gayathri thought abt wat rashmi n nandini's sasural wil say wen they get married........
akshara is soooo damn patient n understandin....any other gal in her position wld hv left d house 2 wat these ppl hv been behavin wid her......I think itz high time tht naitik and akshara stand up 4 themselves....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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wat I dnt understand is tht dis show is all abt love after marriage...ddnt kaka-kaki do an arranged marriage?????......wer has their luv 4 each other gone???....wat r d creatives tryin 2 show??????

daddaji is tryin 2 control another family????....isnt it more thn enough tht hez controllin his own family?????......n I ddnt lik bhabhima yester....so wat if a husband-wife go 2 watch a movie........jst cuz she ddnt go doesnt mean tht others shldnt go......

hv bhabhima n gayathri thought abt wat rashmi n nandini's sasural wil say wen they get married........

akshara is soooo damn patient n understandin....any other gal in her position wld hv left d house 2 wat these ppl hv been behavin wid her......I think itz high time tht naitik and akshara stand up 4 themselves....



Omi & Sunaina had an arranged marriage but it's not necessary that "love after marriage" means the love will stay forever...whether it's arranged or love marriage, the relationship has to be nurtured from both the sides.....In Omi's case, they're probably trying to show how important it is to communicate ..Omi & SUnaina stayed silent all these years & suffered but never shared their grief with one another..Sunaina was too forgiving which made the situation worse..Omi is now bogged down by inferiority complex that he could not give that love to Sunaina....3 most important things in a relationship are "trust", "respect" and "conversation"..Omi SUnaina prolly respected each other but they never developed trust & never conversed which made their relationship stagnant & over the years it started looking like a compromise.....

As for Naksh, Singania's have a fixed mindset & it's difficult to change onself ..normally what happens is that all the blame goes on the bahu...that frm the time she has entered the house, so n so things started changing..they want their bahu to abide by them and she's not supposed to have her own wish (tht's how it is in yrkkh) but since Naitik has tht rebellious streak in him and he always wants to do what he likes, he can make them bend their rules for Akshara...but it's gonna be very tough...lets see if he can manage or no....may be not..not so early........the fact of life is that every family member is unique and contributes to the family in their own way....when a new member comes, few changes have to occur..it's inevitable......Akshara coming to Naitik's house will change her life & Naitik's life ...and his family life as well....when they will have a baby, again a lot of things will change....these ppl. will have to learn to adjust , just like Akshara is doing...for Aksh is a mammoth task..if she can do it, they can surely bend a little for her happiness...it should be that way..
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Omi & Sunaina had an arranged marriage but it's not necessary that "love after marriage" means the love will stay forever...whether it's arranged or love marriage, the relationship has to be nurtured from both the sides.....In Omi's case, they're probably trying to show how important it is to communicate ..Omi & SUnaina stayed silent all these years & suffered but never shared their grief with one another..Sunaina was too forgiving which made the situation worse..Omi is now bogged down by inferiority complex that he could not give that love to Sunaina....3 most important things in a relationship are "trust", "respect" and "conversation"..Omi SUnaina prolly respected each other but they never developed trust & never conversed which made their relationship stagnant & over the years it started looking like a compromise.....

As for Naksh, Singania's have a fixed mindset & it's difficult to change onself ..normally what happens is that all the blame goes on the bahu...that frm the time she has entered the house, so n so things started changing..they want their bahu to abide by them and she's not supposed to have her own wish (tht's how it is in yrkkh) but since Naitik has tht rebellious streak in him and he always wants to do what he likes, he can make them bend their rules for Akshara...but it's gonna be very tough...lets see if he can manage or no....may be not..not so early........the fact of life is that every family member is unique and contributes to the family in their own way....when a new member comes, few changes have to occur..it's inevitable......Akshara coming to Naitik's house will change her life & Naitik's life ...and his family life as well....when they will have a baby, again a lot of things will change....these ppl. will have to learn to adjust , just like Akshara is doing...for Aksh is a mammoth task..if she can do it, they can surely bend a little for her happiness...it should be that way..

di....I agree wid u totally on omi-sunaina's case......
bt y is it dat always d bahu has 2 adjust...wateva happens she has 2 b blamed?????......werent they also married n once they were also bahu of d house......y do they want 2 give trouble 2 d future ones????
wen d new bride comes 2 house...itz d responsibilty of d sasural 2 make sure shez comfortable n fine...she has 2 adjust 2 d family...I agree on tht.....even d others shld equally adjust.....
cuz usually in arranged marriage d bride-groom dont noe each other so every1 shld support her...in naitik-akshara's case...it was different......even though it was an arranged marriage.....naksh meet each other everyday n tried 2 understand each other..........
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di....I agree wid u totally on omi-sunaina's case......


bt y is it dat always d bahu has 2 adjust...wateva happens she has 2 b blamed?????......werent they also married n once they were also bahu of d house......y do they want 2 give trouble 2 d future ones????

wen d new bride comes 2 house...itz d responsibilty of d sasural 2 make sure shez comfortable n fine...she has 2 adjust 2 d family...I agree on tht.....even d others shld equally adjust.....

cuz usually in arranged marriage d bride-groom dont noe each other so every1 shld support her...in naitik-akshara's case...it was different......even though it was an arranged marriage.....naksh meet each other everyday n tried 2 understand each other..........



i understand dear..but u will get an answer to these questions only when u get married...WHY the buck stops on the bahu? well bec. she's new to the family, they don't know her...the instant reaction is that it's all happening bec. of her...specially when their own son supports his wife against his family....there r a few preconceived notions as well...but as and when she makes her place, their thinking change...ppl. change yaar over the time.....tht's what we call adjustment.....

basically therez a huge generation gap b/w our parents and us and our grand parents and our parents..I will deal with my bahu the way i was dealth with (with caution) but who knows in future, children's demands change completely which we can't even imagine.....

like Gayitri and Bhabhi ma...when they must have got married, it was wired in their minds that they have to look after the house, cook etc. etc. and they expect Akshara to do the same (remember Gayitri saying I never looked back at my maayka but dun know abt aajkal ki ladkiyan) ...anything new is not acceptable to them for the time being......lets see how Naitik & Aksharacan bring about that change! they CAN ! see, no matter how much we crib, INITIALLY the bahu has to adjust more...and later on, she can bring about the changes with the help of her husband ..if they can n if they want...
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