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Posted: 15 years ago
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@ Eks,
very good question. This has troubled me also... I do not buy this segregation of Cinema as entertainment for men, and TV as entertainment for women. That is the justification for the way serials work nowadays.

Like Kim, I have also seen some excellent TV serials during pre-Ekta times. Why can't they happen again?

One of the reasons could be that Ekta made TV a big industry, a place where people could make money. The longer a serial ran, the more money for the actors.So it was in their interests to keep the show going for as long as they can... and to do that, they need lots of twists and turns.

In DD days, there were just a few actors, mostly people from theatre etc... but now, the field is wide open. It seems like lots of young men and women from 2nd tier, 3rd tier cities and small towns board buses and trains and come to Mumbai to try their luck in TV. and some of them do get lucky, and become very famous and make lots of money. And a small percentage of these actors then goes to Bollywood, like Prachi Desai or Rajeev Khandelwal. There too, if they strike it lucky, they get even more famous... To me, it seems like that's how things work now.

In all this race for money and fame and success, good stories, good writing, good acting naturally take a back seat I suppose...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Exactly! she collected mullah at the cost of poor audience, who have been suffering without their knowledge and are under the impression that whatever she produces is the quality stuff.
There is lot of competition and every serial has to keep up with TRPs and what not, sad state of affairs, makes me miss the good old days badly
Edited by kimpan - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@ Gaayu & Kim - Word to everything you'll said!! Kekta made TV serials a money-making business .. and creativity went down the drain! 😕 Sad .. but true! Question is .. will this mentality ever change?? Will we get quality stuff? And even if we are getting some good quality stuff .. why is it not appreciated? Why kill creativity??
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@ Eks...I feel there are very slim chances for a change to take place. Even if it were to happen it would be at a gradual pace. As said by Gaayu, when one aims at lucrative benefits, everything else takes a back seat.
Why don't you be the starting point and eventually others would follow. You already have good scripts with you and I am assuring you I would encourage everyone to watch the serial😆....all in fun dear! the good scripts part is true though...
On a serious note, I think Television industry is controlled by few arrogant people like Kekta and Co. so there needs to be a revolution to bring in the change we want to see. It is not the average man that's making these serials but a commercial business person, so we can't expect more from them.
My POV.

And I guess ur question still remains unanswered😆
Edited by kimpan - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Well... I think the change is already happening, but very slowly...

Colors channel did change the way stories were being told on TV. Till then, all shows, most of which were Ekta's could go on and on without any basic plot. Now, however bad it may be, there is still a plot. One can say Bhagyavidhata is about groom-kidnapping in Bihar, Balika Vadhu is about child marriage in Rajasthan, Laado is about female infanticide in Haryana, YPNHK is about inter-caste marriage in UP, etc etc... which is a huge development I think.

Past Ekta tricks like dead coming back alive, criminal vamps, etc... are not liked that much. In Bandini, when a character resembling the hero's dead wife was brought it, the audience rejected it outright. The track was wound up in 3 wks... the actress was Chavi Mittal. Everyone, including me, hated her, I mean, the character and we were just not prepared to see the hero with someone else, even if it meant the ex-wife. Once dead, forever dead, it seems now. No plastic surgeries and coma situations, from what I can see now... People either live or die.

Too much negativity is also not welcomed anymore. Read an interview on IF by Rajan Shahi where he said audience had rejected negativity and the story will be changed in Bidaai. People didn't like 2 sisters, who were previously close, going apart.

Many of Ekta's serials have ended sooner than she expected because audience now see through her. That Baytaab dil ki was an exact copy of Kasam se. What did she think people were- total idiots? Her arrogance just makes my blood boil!

I see these as good developments. Some scripts are good. YPNHK had a fantastic script up until antakshari epi... Today TN's lines were very good. So there seem to be good writers around. They need good directors.

It took a long time for our film industry to get to where it is today na, where the stories are varied, direction is slick, and competition is fierce. The same will happen on TV also... the competition is fierce now. Which is why I think YPNHK people should be brave and stick to their original plan. Their show will survive and years later, people will talk about how YPNHK changed the way TV serials worked!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#36
Nice one Eks 👍🏼 Don't worry i am not going to shower you with jootas or chappals😃 😆 rather i am clapping for you👏 👏

Now about my thoughts:

i wish that this new guy is some villian guy who falls for Leher and starts stalking her. Leher gets worried and our abeer miyan sensing Leher's discomfiture picks up a fight with this new mawali and ends up in hospital making Leher worry for him and maybe Leher pays him a visit at the hospital, and the love starts.

Or maybe we see QSQT way as TN has refused to give Abeer pocket money and Abeer and Leher elope and start their life somewhere with new home and Abeer looking for job etc.

whatever happens i want Aber and Leher together.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@ Gaayu...awesome, so YPNHK would be the change that people want to see, that was a great conclusion to a good story😊 (expecting the same with YPNHK story ..hehehe)
I am sorry but my present day TV knowledge is confined to YPNHK, some of LNMDJ, courtesy: GK the Great!👏
I have nothing to compare and analyze, so I guess my talk would only be based on DD serials experience and the Kekta ki Kahani...so my take is totally an outdated one😆
Thanks for the detailed analysis Gaayu, loved reading it.
I have seen a bit of those colors serials when we had the free promo, nothing made sense to me, everything is based on atrocities on woman in various forms...though that is definitely a change from usual Kekta stuff.
Edited by kimpan - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: QueenAnnie18

Nice one Eks 👍🏼 Don't worry i am not going to shower you with jootas or chappals😃 😆 rather i am clapping for you👏 👏

Now about my thoughts:

i wish that this new guy is some villian guy who falls for Leher and starts stalking her. Leher gets worried and our abeer miyan sensing Leher's discomfiture picks up a fight with this new mawali and ends up in hospital making Leher worry for him and maybe Leher pays him a visit at the hospital, and the love starts.

Or maybe we see QSQT way as TN has refused to give Abeer pocket money and Abeer and Leher elope and start their life somewhere with new home and Abeer looking for job etc.

whatever happens i want Aber and Leher together.

i agreee
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Posted: 15 years ago
#39
Eks, I like your idea about this bhaiyya not being the character we were told but look at his entry 😕 - full build up, face blurring and everything. why would they build up a side character? Unless! they're going to introduce the real guy in a flash like pulling Lehar out of danger in a speedy sequence or something.

you could be right - this fellow could be a general college goonda and someone ELSE from Mughal Sarai could be the real entry - that would be ok because somehow even from the little they showed us, I didn't like the new entry at all.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I think dat d guy in the promo is the real one yaar.bcoz incase he was not d real one then they wud not hav promoted his sequence that much.May be this is a twist in the tale or wat i really don't know can't wait for thursday 9pm.surely need a closure to all this suspense and a real big debate.
By d way Ektaj i hav an idea 4 u yaar why don't u become a dialogue writer of a masala film.
very well written almost portrayed all scenarios.my mind wud hav never thaught soooooooooooo much about these many diff. scenarios.
actually,Thanks for this post.Eks

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