Diary over emphasis & other thoughts

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Guys, another long post 😆

I have been reading various posts about the diary and the fantasy girl Mukhi "dreamed of and some scenes that people think are "fillers or out of character so I just wanted to post my thoughts because there is no one post I can address it all, I had to make a new one :) I think people have taken this diary way too seriously and in a wrong manner, they see it as Mukhi falling for this mystery diary girl and that's not the case at all. Guys to Mukhi this diary is a self-help book, it's a guide, it's a best friend, it's the only thing he has that offers him any clue as to what women think about, act like, enjoy etc.

Take a step back and see it this way, we all grow up with friends, TV, movies, social media showing us all this knowledge about relationships and understanding the opposite sex but put yourself in Mukhi's shoes, he has no close friends, no family, no TV, nothing to show him anything to do with women or how to "date, who does he have to talk to about these things, Mustana lol?! You know how people go to a bookstore to get reference books on subjects they don't know about, that's what this diary is, it's a reference book on women to Mukhi, it is a window into a woman's mind that he has never had access too. It is best seen in that phone call he made to Aru and he said are all girls the same, it's like he is testing out the information in the book and applying it to real world situations

What we are doing is confusing the love Mukhi has for the words and content of the diary with the author of the diary. We all have friends we go to for advice right, we respect them, we admire them, we like the knowledge and wisdom they have to give us but does that mean we love them as well, of course not, we love the advice not the person giving it. That is what this diary is for Mukhi, he enjoys the wisdom but isn't transferring his admiration for the words into feelings for the author, we as viewers are doing that.

We are transferring our feelings about this so called mystery diary girl onto Mukhi because we are so over protective of our Aru, we have a short term memory ;) Mukhi has done nothing to indicate he has any feelings for this author, we have done that, we only remember the current episodes it seems and not the past lol, remember it is a simple as one scene for me, this says it all: the scene after Aru ate the galub jamun and walks away to leave Mukhi forever, and Sanvi tells Muhki that she is right for him and what does Mukhi say, he says "I know... that's it, end of story. There is never going to be anybody past present or future that will be right for Mukhi as Aru, he knows that already, he just can't admit it is love, yet. There is no room for anybody else including diary girl in Mukhi's world, he knows Aru is right for him

He has no emotional bond with this book, you don't see him shut his eyes or stare at the book with love, look at the way he looks at Aru intensely and then when he read something in the diary, he admires the words for their intelligence like he is reading something insightful, nothing more. He is protective of the book because it's his only resource he has and he is also embarrassed about it, a 42 yr old man reading a woman's diary, that's why he hides it from Aru and everybody not because he is in love with diary girl! When I am reading a book fiction or non-fiction, I visualize the characters in my head, I like seeing the people in my head as I read, but that doesn't mean I have feelings for them, they are just a representation of the words I am reading, the physical person itself is meaningless, they are a robot come to life to help me "see the words I am reading, that's the diary girl for him, just someone to represent the words he is reading, no feelings are attached to that image.

If they had Aru as that woman with the veil, that would be way too big a jump for Mukhi to make or the serial to make because that's a big sign of love, it is too early to have Aru start dominating his dreams, we have Aru dreaming of Mukhi, we don't need Mukhi doing the same lol ;) So the CV's are doing what they have done all along, playing it slowly and of course we all wanted that dream girl to be Aru but not yet too early. So let's put our knives away and guns and bombs ready to wreak vengeance on the woman in the veil come to life from the diary and let's also take a step back from taking his connection to the diary so deeply, it's his "friend that gives him advice, nothing more.

Now onto the episodes that have scenes of Aru seeing Mukhi in various outfits, roles, looks and the fart scene that people think are "fillers; these scenes aren't fluff, nor are they out of character for Mukhi, at heart remember this is a love story of opposites, of young/older, city/country, different society upbringing etc, but connected by morals, ethics, values, souls, so the CV's have allowed this to evolve slowly. They are not going to throw in superfluous scenes for the sake of it, what they are trying to do is for every scene that they show Mukhi in Aru's dream sequences as some modern hero, they follow it up with something that reminds her of his reality.

For example the farting scene, right before that, she was dreaming of him as SRK so immediately the CV's juxtaposed the next scene to show that Mukhi is a "son of the earth type, so it showed him doing what all guys do, he was gargling and spit out the water and he farted, exactly what you would expect in a village, it wasn't out of character or a filler at all. I am a man, don't you think in my own house and room I fart no matter who is around, it's my house, I'll do what I want, I am not going to hold it in! It was meant to be funny but once again to show that Mukhi will not ever be the modern hero Aru dreams of and she is becoming aware of that and is growing more mature in her definition of "love, albeit very slowly.

There are 3 current examples that show this maturation of what she thinks "love is; remember when she walked into the scene with the lights and candles and chole, and it was all filmy romantic, she said this all seems nice but this was stuff I liked when I was younger not now, I am different now. This shows that her younger version of love isn't the same as it is now, Mukhi's actions have started influencing her. Second small scene of her maturing, when she was drinking tea with Mukhi and she finally tries it his way by slurping it and you see her face as she stares at him, like a light dawns on her face of understanding, she changed from thinking it was such an old traditional thing to understanding why he does it and she enjoyed it as well, a step forward for her in seeing Mukhi differently than before. Finally, to me a very powerful scene was when she was ashamed that Mukhi had carried her naked in the shower, remember how she was not wanting to face him, she stood there crying, what line does Mukhi say that finally made her turn around and run into his arms...it is when he said I am a son of the earth, connected to it, and on that earth I swear I would never cross any boundaries...that's the line that made her heal from her hurt and run to him.

The CV's are constantly trying to show her slow gradual evolution of her vison of love maturing, so all these scenes we see of her fantasizing and Mukhi doing things that deliberately over-emphasize his villager ways are not just for laughs or fillers as some people think, they serve a deeper purpose in having her vision of love mature and to see him as the real Mukhi. She already has come to rely on him as her protector and will take care of her, that's a big step for someone who never depended on anyone, remember before they went on the bike ride with Aru driving, he said she will fall, and her answer was, I am not worried, I know you will take care of everything and handle it...so in future scenes that seem silly, try to see the subtleties the CV's are trying to imply, if we love this slow burn of a story then we have to give them the benefit of the doubt for what seem to be "silly filler scenes too 😆

These are just my thoughts and insights, being a man I think I understand a bit better that us men don't really get attached about women we read about. Women have a far more vivid imagination and get attached to characters in books, movies, etc so I think if you guys see it from a man's view, his attachment to the diary isn't the same attachment a woman would have to the dairy written by a man, we can separate the words from the author a bit easier, not generalizing, just an observation 😉

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Welcome back Wally!🤗
Long time no see! That is some post you've put up. Got it man... your male point of view. Excellent piece of writing, or should I say a piece of your mind to us forum walis 😆.


Everything spot on, except the fact about only villagers farting 😆. What happens to the city guys gas??😲 🤣


On afterthought, after ranting about the episode and reading all comments, it has been understood by all that Aru was being brought down to earth from her filmy dreams. But really liked your detailed explanation about the writers point of view and that every scene has a point to convey. And how Aru needs to be slowly brought into this Mukhi world. Seriously yaar, these writers need to be commended for the effort they are putting into building the makeup of each character.


Bu boy o boy, this gass has sure brought everyone to the forum to 'air' their point of view 😆


Wonderful post. You were truly missed out here!


Edited to mention that your view of Mukhi's diary girl was also 👏 . So true that they couldn't have shown her as Aru since it is still not Aru in his mind. But after this Mannu and her rants, I too was worried that Rami & Co might misuse it. 😲
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ayy lovely analysis! All the thoughtful analysis writiers seem to all be on this forum! I'm not complaining.. nice to see this from a male perspective too

I think I've said this again and again but the CVs of this show are brilliant... they are doing things in a almost perfect manner.. I agree with you that no scenes are filler scenes.. they all serve a wider purpose which is so nice to see.

Thanks for your analysis and look forward to reading more!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Wally😊
lovely post😊 ye post aur lambi ho jati to bhi i dont mind😆😃

Awesome analysis.. i agree with u each and everything u wrote.

Mukhi ji Aru k liye jo feel karte hai wo dairy girl k liye nahi karte true.. remember jab Aru mukhi k saamne nahi aa rahi thi.. that time mukhi ji ka dairy reading me koi interest nahi tha.mukhi ji ka pura dyaan tab Aru kaha hai and kaisi hai us pe tha. So its clear k Mukhi love Aru.. and jo mene realized kiya wo ye hai k... ghooghat girl mukhi k liye dairy girl nahi thi.. he just imagine a girl jo wo sab kar rahi hai jo mukhi read kar raha hai..ghooghat girl flower laayi but usne side table pe rakha mukhi ko nahi diya.. than tea khud k liye banayi not for mukhi and last khana bhi khud khaya.. so basically mukhi ne dairy me likhi hui baat ko imagine kiya.. and after that usne wahi sab cheez Aru k liye plan ki.

Aru ko ghooghat girl ki jagah imagine karne me mukhi ko time lagega. B/c mukhi ko khud ko abhi ye feel nahi hua k wo Aru k liye kya feel karne laga hai.. i m sure cvs wo moment ko bhi bahot beautifully portray karege.

Over all wonderful post.. i just love it. 👏👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: malkasub

Welcome back Wally!🤗

Long time no see! That is some post you've put up. Got it man... your male point of view. Excellent piece of writing, or should I say a piece of your mind to us forum walis 😆.


Everything spot on, except the fact about only villagers farting 😆. What happens to the city guys gas??😲 🤣


On afterthought, after ranting about the episode and reading all comments, it has been understood by all that Aru was being brought down to earth from her filmy dreams. But really liked your detailed explanation about the writers point of view and that every scene has a point to convey. And how Aru needs to be slowly brought into this Mukhi world. Seriously yaar, these writers need to be commended for the effort they are putting into building the makeup of each character.


Bu boy o boy, this gass has sure brought everyone to the forum to 'air' their point of view 😆


Wonderful post. You were truly missed out here!


Edited to mention that your view of Mukhi's diary girl was also 👏 . So true that they couldn't have shown her as Aru since it is still not Aru in his mind. But after this Mannu and her rants, I too was worried that Rami & Co might misuse it. 😲



Lol, thank you for always making such funny and thoughtful replies! I It was my birthday yesterday so couldn't write, I have been reading all the posts and seeing all sorts of newer ppl posting so i was just enjoying seeing everybody's viewpoints. I tend to wait until I have a few things i want to say before i write, i was also finishing off my writings that ppl have been asking for about my life story and stuff so that took me awhile, but finally got it done and have been receiving great feedback from it, maybe i'll pm you the links :)

Remember that like this story, its a slow burn right, so don't get too caught up in people who are a bit too easily excited and make you stressed/tensed, sit back, read posts, pick the ones that make you smile and let the drama filled ones fade into obscurity ;)
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hey great post, Wally! You've said many things which I'd expressed in one of my posts yesterday. About the farting and stuff😆 and how realistic the cvs are developing their gradual feelings.

And yeah , thanks for the assurance you've given us about Mukhi's feelings for this diary girl and Aru, like you'd promised in twitter. The confusion developed only after that veiled lady scene, if he was falling for this anonymous person who wrote the diary. But your explanation is exactly what was wanted to confused souls like me, a proper insight of this man by a fellow man. Thanks to you.
No issues about the length, it was a pleasure to read! Keep posting! 👍🏼
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Spartan187, beautiful writing. Loved everything you wrote. Nothing more to add. You are absolutely right about that diary being his confidante at this point. With each passing day as Aru is seeing him for what he is from her filmy imagination Mukhiji will also realize the girl in the diary he admired is none other than his wife.
First indication of that merge was when they both recite that kavita which he dismissed, second one he saw Aru falling from sofa in her sleep then after he put the mattress by the sofa he was waiting for her to fall as he was reading it (I'm not a native hindi speaker so I must have missed the dialogs altogether) and him arranging the dinner after reading the diary. And her journey also started from you cute to how good you are. Its a slow realization and that's the beauty of this story.
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Excellent post; mind opening perspective.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanabmw

Wally😊

lovely post😊 ye post aur lambi ho jati to bhi i dont mind😆😃

Awesome analysis.. i agree with u each and everything u wrote.

Mukhi ji Aru k liye jo feel karte hai wo dairy girl k liye nahi karte true.. remember jab Aru mukhi k saamne nahi aa rahi thi.. that time mukhi ji ka dairy reading me koi interest nahi tha.mukhi ji ka pura dyaan tab Aru kaha hai and kaisi hai us pe tha. So its clear k Mukhi love Aru.. and jo mene realized kiya wo ye hai k... ghooghat girl mukhi k liye dairy girl nahi thi.. he just imagine a girl jo wo sab kar rahi hai jo mukhi read kar raha hai..ghooghat girl flower laayi but usne side table pe rakha mukhi ko nahi diya.. than tea khud k liye banayi not for mukhi and last khana bhi khud khaya.. so basically mukhi ne dairy me likhi hui baat ko imagine kiya.. and after that usne wahi sab cheez Aru k liye plan ki.

Aru ko ghooghat girl ki jagah imagine karne me mukhi ko time lagega. B/c mukhi ko khud ko abhi ye feel nahi hua k wo Aru k liye kya feel karne laga hai.. i m sure cvs wo moment ko bhi bahot beautifully portray karege.

Over all wonderful post.. i just love it. 👏👏



Hi Sana!

This is one of the rare forums where people don't complain about lengthy posts, i have been a part of a few others and half the responses were about it was too long so they only read half lol :)

You know what, very enlightening points you made about the woman in the veil not giving the flowers or tea to mukhi but just doing it for herself, so it really does show she was nothing more than what i thought which was she is just a representation of the words no feelings attached, very good points you made :)

I am glad you enjoyed the post, this forum is very appreciative so it encourages more ppl to express themselves :)

p.s i have some other personal writings i will pm you one day if you enjoy reading :)
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: SudHaVeN-

Hey great post, Wally! You've said many things which I'd expressed in one of my posts yesterday. About the farting and stuff😆 and how realistic the cvs are developing their gradual feelings.

And yeah , thanks for the assurance you've given us about Mukhi's feelings for this diary girl and Aru, like you'd promised in twitter. The confusion developed only after that veiled lady scene, if he was falling for this anonymous person who wrote the diary. But your explanation is exactly what was wanted to confused souls like me, a proper insight of this man by a fellow man. Thanks to you.
No issues about the length, it was a pleasure to read! Keep posting! 👍🏼



Thank you for the reply, i am glad I was able to settle a bit of the confusion regarding the diary, you know the saying, ppl see the trees but they don't see the forest, sometimes we focus too much on the small details and not the big picture so i think that's the case here, reading too much into things lol :)


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