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Deepanand thumbnail
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Posted: 6 years ago
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If vishaka is selfish, after sameer choose naina over her she would have not spoken to the principal and got the permission for him to write the supplementary. The image she got when naina tells that he failed to save her reputation . Obviously she thinks it's alll because of naina that sameer failed in exam. No mom will tolerate that she became topper and he failed coz of her.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Vishaka was a failure even before Naina entered his life. He himself said vishaka calls him twice a year ,that too to ask about his results. She always ran away from responsibility towards Sameer. 1st he was put in a boarding then his responsibility was passed to Nanu and now mama-mami . sameer himself said his mother was not there when he was sick or for anything. I don't think k she will realize the amount of damage her negligence did to a small kid. Her getting him a chance to do exams would not wash away all the pain she has caused him. For vishaka somani and her new family was always more important than Sameer. Vishaka does not know how to handle sameer. As a kid when he was growing the time he most wanted his mother's love she wasn't there for him. Now doing few things will not undo all what she has caused. In Delhi too sje wanted him to adjust acording to the situation. She didn't stand up for him. The scars that he still fears all at a point leaves him. Vishaka was never a good mother to sameer.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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One cannot choose between their mother and girlfriend. If you just see this recent issue, where Vishaka is angry with Sameer for not giving his exams for a girl. Her anger is right. No mother will like her son spoiling his future for a girl. She has all the rights to scold him. She asks a question to choose between her and Naina, if you see Vishaka only in this issue, then Sameer would have not been able to choose one. But if you see Vishaka as a mother from the time Sameer was small, then I dont think Sameer should choose Vishaka.
She left her child to have a family of her own, she sent him to hostel, didnt bother about him, cared for Rohan and Deepika more. She always saw Sameer as an arrogant child who doesnt have manners to talk to elders.But same child was so respectful to nanu. Why? Because Nanu gave that love which Vishaka did not give him. The love and care which he always wanted in his life.Then Naina came in his life. Filled his life with love and care. The boy who did not receive love in his childhood got that warmth from Naina and became attached to her and her love. Then Sameer changed in Naina's love. Her love made him more responsible, mature, the arrogance in him reduced, Vishaka saw Naina's Sameer in Delhi and started to bond with him. She saw the change in him and started to care for him. She coudnt realise that Sameer changed because of Naina. Naina's love changed him and not hers.

Now Sameer left his exams for Naina. His world revolves around Naina. He got his mother's love late in his life. But the scars of the childhood are with him. In this situation suddenly Vishaka's motherly love came in. I know she is behaving like a mother now to Sameer, stopping her child from doing something that is wrong but then where was her motherly instincts when he needed it the most. Vishaka cannot bear that Sameer is giving importance to a girl who came in his life while she gave birth to him. This is the same situation which Sameer faced, he couldnt bear that Vishaka chose and loved her step son more than him. So he asked that question whether she loves him more or her husband, Rohan and Deepika, to which she coudnt answer as she herself knows she gave more importance to Mr.Somani and his family.

The anger and pain that he felt in his childhood is still with him and with that he will not be able to choose Vishaka and here Naina does have an upper hand. So in Sameer's case Naina always has an upper hand because she is the reason for his happiness, just like Vishaka chose her happiness when she decided to remarry.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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@ Deepaananf

I agree that with small kids we have to put the conditions to make them do things like homework or to make them eat food. But after a certain age this kind of techniques won't work and it is not right to do also. By the time they reach 14 or 15 they should be able to understand the necessity of studies and getting good marks. It is not right to bribe or threaten your kids at that age also. I am a mother of a 16 year old boy. I have realized the necessity of changing the way of interaction with your kids as they grow up.

Visakha is a mother who never bothered for Sameer's feelings. During PVKM days he painfully told his friends that his mother calls him only twice every year that too just to know his results. Sameer got all motherly love from his Nanaji. That's why he used to call Nanaji as mummy. Even before introducing Naina, Sameer gave a very good picture of her to visakha. How much Naina has positively influenced him in resolving issues with his family. How much she has helped him in changing the views of life. He even said that Nanaji recognized the importance of Naina in his life and had blessed them. In such a scenario it is wrong from Vishakha's side to come to a conclusion in such a short meeting with Naina. On top of that to say that Naina and Chachaji are gold diggers is completely wrong.

I will also blast at my son if he is not appearing for his exams only if I have that right to do. Here Vishakha lost that right as a mother by ignoring Sameer for so many years.

It is easy to plant a seed. But it requires years of constant effort and patience to water it at correct time, give the correct amount of fertilizer and make sure that it is getting right amount of sunlight. Then only a plant will grow healthily and then only the person who is taking care of it will get the right to pluck the fruits. You ignore that plant and if someone else is taking care of it and the plant is growing happily in his care then you don't have any right to stop the other person in doing so just because you plant that seed.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakhile

Both are important. All of us need all our relationships in our lives. They play varying roles and allow us to grow in various ways. Sameer needs both Naina and Vishakha in his life. The fact that Vishakha remarried and has a number of issues does not mean she doesn't love Sameer and is not needed in his life. Her way of expressing her love is to push Sameer to do better to achieve more. Sameer needs to be pushed. He seems to believe that if you don't agree with me and agree to what I want then you don't love me. This is immaturity on his part. Parents often have to feed their children bitter medicine, this is love too.

Romantic love also has a place in our lives. Naina provides this. Eventually Naina will also become demanding as her expectations of Sameer increases. In their married life it will not be all smooth sailing. When Sameer doesn't get his way then will he believe that Naina doesn't love him?

Unconditional love does not mean agreeing to and giving you everything you want. Sometimes giving you the truth will also be bitter.

Sameer, like all of us, needs his mother, his girlfriend, other friends, and all natural relationships.

This is a very beautiful post. I agree with everything that was said in it.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakhile

Both are important. All of us need all our relationships in our lives. They play varying roles and allow us to grow in various ways. Sameer needs both Naina and Vishakha in his life. The fact that Vishakha remarried and has a number of issues does not mean she doesn't love Sameer and is not needed in his life. Her way of expressing her love is to push Sameer to do better to achieve more. Sameer needs to be pushed. He seems to believe that if you don't agree with me and agree to what I want then you don't love me. This is immaturity on his part. Parents often have to feed their children bitter medicine, this is love too.

Romantic love also has a place in our lives. Naina provides this. Eventually Naina will also become demanding as her expectations of Sameer increases. In their married life it will not be all smooth sailing. When Sameer doesn't get his way then will he believe that Naina doesn't love him?

Unconditional love does not mean agreeing to and giving you everything you want. Sometimes giving you the truth will also be bitter.

Sameer, like all of us, needs his mother, his girlfriend, other friends, and all natural relationships.



Agree with you Nanaji has always agreed what he wanted in life. Naina was like that when she was in pvkm but it's changing . Now we see difference of opinion between them happening more
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Posted: 6 years ago
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This a very tough question to answer mom or girlfriend.

It was very difficult to find second chance in happiness for women in Vishakha's circumstance in her time (widowed with a kid). CVs have not shown to us viewers what she had to go through to achieve that second chance in happiness. Both she and Somani got married for the second time but only Vishakha had to make adjustments. We've seen Sameer yearning for mother's love because the CVs had chosen to show his side of the pain. However, CVs had not shown Vishakha's agonies & inner conflicts and therefore to judge her and call her a horrible mom for me is little premature. Nevertheless, I do think Vishakha loves Sameer. She contacting the principal's exam to rectify the exam situation for Sameer is one of the examples of her love.

Then there are questions on unconditional love. I actually find Naina love is tad bit conditional too. Until Chachaji agreed to their love, she branded her love as mistake. That is one way of putting condition on love she was basically saying if my family doesn't agree it is the end for the road for me. When she came to know about Sameer missing the exam, the first thing she said was how is it going to reflect upon her? I do know Naina loves Sameer I am just saying it is not quite unconditional as some people think.

On that note, I want to say that Vishakha's love is limited by her other family and Naina's by her family & principles. However, both do love him and are important for him in their own unique way. Like Shakile said in the post "Sameer, like all of us, needs his mother, his girlfriend, other friends, and all natural relationships.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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True I agree with you coz we rarely see a mom with kid marrying for the second time. She has also gone through her own miseries if losing some one in life.

Two ways I see here

Naina thinks that sameer was not able to write exam because of her and the guilt is eating her. She is saying good things about vishaka that she helped sameer to give supplementary exam. They got best of vishaka.

Vishaka is seeing that her son failed in exam becoz of naina and she thinks naina is not good for sameer. She thinks bad about her.

The human nature is like I got good from you I praise you and I like. I am experiencing bad things bcoz of you so I don't like you.



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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Deepaananf

True I agree with you coz we rarely see a mom with kid marrying for the second time. She has also gone through her own miseries if losing some one in life.

Two ways I see here

Naina thinks that sameer was not able to write exam because of her and the guilt is eating her. She is saying good things about vishaka that she helped sameer to give supplementary exam. They got best of vishaka.

Vishaka is seeing that her son failed in exam becoz of naina and she thinks naina is not good for sameer. She thinks bad about her.

The human nature is like I got good from you I praise you and I like. I am experiencing bad things bcoz of you so I don't like you.



You r right Vishakha has only seen the worst of Naina. She has come to know that her son almost became a babaji when Naina left him for her family and now she has seen Sameer readily sacrificing his exams to save Naina. Although later was not quite Naina's fault, Viskhaka hasn't had the chance to get to personally know her to get rid of her prejudices.

Like you said, Naina on the other hand saw how Sameer's mom saved his entire college year.

More than good or bad, Vishakha/Naina's perceptions are it is more situational. Both mean it well.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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For Sameer I would say Naina .

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