Naina - The Transformation from LOVE to COLD PRACTICALITY - Page 2

Today , there are few points that might sound a lil different from your thoughts. From my point of view more than practicality , its her deep obligation towards her Chacha Chachi that made her take that decision. She doesn't care two hoots abt the rest of the family. The family she talks about comprises of Chacha Chachi and Preethi.

Reason's to justify
1) When Sameer broke the headlamps of her fathers scooter , she saved him by fooling her dad.
2) Bike ride when she got caught and Sameer helped her to escape. Later when he called her again she said she respected her father and didn't want his image to be affected . At that point , when Sameer asked what about him. She didn't say anything she came and sat.
3) She has many a times fooled her Tayi ji to meet him. Not one instance but multiple instance.

She said NO to Sameer because she felt her Chacha Chachi will be blamed for her behaviour and she wanted to repay their love with her being successful in life. If you look at her life the only affection she got was from them. What she doesn't understand is for Sameer after his Nanu left the world, Naina is the ONLY person from whom he got affection. So he is in the same place as she is in life. They both don't have parents that they can rely on or at least argue for them.

When it comes to affection what Chacha Chachi gives Naina , Naina does for Sameer. But now with this marriage, Chacha Chachi and Naina are helpless. No one values their opinion. To some extant Naina can take a decision now because her Chacha Chachi is also not happy with what happened. Here again she becomes the greatest looser. She lost her love. She lost her chance to make her Chacha Chachi proud with her academic and professional achievements. '

Even though Naina said she wants to break up with Sameer , she didn't dream of a life with another man yet. She knew eventually she would have to but not this fast . So all her calculations went for toss and she becomes the reason of her Chacha Chachi and Sameer's pain. What she had thought and what she has got??

Would this make her go back to Sameer . I don't think so because there is catch point "She doesn't want others in the family to blame chacha chichi for bad upbringing" That is the reason she never asked a life with Sameer from God, again pleading for Chacha Chachi's happiness.

Saw her expression after hugging her Chacha , she smiled , not a tear from her eyes. At least not in front of people who is wrecking her life. She is thinking of sacrificing her happiness everything for people who raised a motherless..rather a parentless girl as their own. I feel she is going to turn cold to everything. She will just go thru everything with out a word till she can hold it with in her. Unless someone does to break her completely.

It will be interesting to see how she is going to clean this mess she has created and what will be that incident which will bring both of them out of their trans.

Originally posted by: appukrish

Great post Don, and I see that my thoughts mirror Ross's thoughts here. He has written very well. I'm copying my rep,y from Ross's thread.

Naina's prayer to God seemed confusing at first but then it made sense. She is faced with this situation of marriage which has come as a shock to her. When she broke up with Sameer in her mind it's done for good. She is miserable no doubt and knows he is to and expects that they will move on with time. Since she initiated this she is trying to accept it whereas Sameer isn't able to move on.

She says shaadi Wala pyar but has only imagined that things will just fall into place for them. ShefJun drama was the first jolt and then Shefali hammered the thought in her about her family and her lack of courage.

Again she thought break up ke baad they will move on, college, job etcc etcc. This rishta twist she never imagined and it came up suddenly and she doesn't know what to do.

Hence her prayer to God to get her out of this situation for now. Because breaking up with Sameer did not mean the end of everything else in life. Since Chachaji has these expectations from her that is how far she thinks.

I'm not sure I made much sense here, but I just felt in her prayer to God there was no reason for her to pray for Sameer or for them both etcc

The depth of Sameer's love and her lack of understanding the same will dawn on her soon..

Originally posted by: WeRockTheWorld

Today , there are few points that might sound a lil different from your thoughts. From my point of view more than practicality , its her deep obligation towards her Chacha Chachi that made her take that decision. She doesn't care two hoots abt the rest of the family. The family she talks about comprises of Chacha Chachi and Preethi.

Reason's to justify
1) When Sameer broke the headlamps of her fathers scooter , she saved him by fooling her dad.
2) Bike ride when she got caught and Sameer helped her to escape. Later when he called her again she said she respected her father and didn't want his image to be affected . At that point , when Sameer asked what about him. She didn't say anything she came and sat.
3) She has many a times fooled her Tayi ji to meet him. Not one instance but multiple instance.

She said NO to Sameer because she felt her Chacha Chachi will be blamed for her behaviour and she wanted to repay their love with her being successful in life. If you look at her life the only affection she got was from them. What she doesn't understand is for Sameer after his Nanu left the world, Naina is the ONLY person from whom he got affection. So he is in the same place as she is in life. They both don't have parents that they can rely on or at least argue for them.

When it comes to affection what Chacha Chachi gives Naina , Naina does for Sameer. But now with this marriage, Chacha Chachi and Naina are helpless. No one values their opinion. To some extant Naina can take a decision now because her Chacha Chachi is also not happy with what happened. Here again she becomes the greatest looser. She lost her love. She lost her chance to make her Chacha Chachi proud with her academic and professional achievements. '

Even though Naina said she wants to break up with Sameer , she didn't dream of a life with another man yet. She knew eventually she would have to but not this fast . So all her calculations went for toss and she becomes the reason of her Chacha Chachi and Sameer's pain. What she had thought and what she has got??

Would this make her go back to Sameer . I don't think so because there is catch point "She doesn't want others in the family to blame chacha chichi for bad upbringing" That is the reason she never asked a life with Sameer from God, again pleading for Chacha Chachi's happiness.

Saw her expression after hugging her Chacha , she smiled , not a tear from her eyes. At least not in front of people who is wrecking her life. She is thinking of sacrificing her happiness everything for people who raised a motherless..rather a parentless girl as their own. I feel she is going to turn cold to everything. She will just go thru everything with out a word till she can hold it with in her. Unless someone does to break her completely.

It will be interesting to see how she is going to clean this mess she has created and what will be that incident which will bring both of them out of their trans.

Originally posted by: priya_nka_yudkb

Hey doc,

Thanks for your PM.. I appreciate you taking the time to write down such detailed analysis. But frankly speaking I think this is not best of your writings. I felt it is too big and repetitive on few points. Hope you don't mind my view on this.

However I agree that Naina seems to be least concerned about Sameer. Agree she wants to distance herself from him but I wonder if she never felt a need to find about how is he coping up without her. She could have tried to find indirectly through Preeti or Swati asking Munna. College holidays means no connection with friends???

During prayer, I also felt that yeah sirf chachaji ke baare main sochte rahi hai?? Why is she not thinking what will Sameer go through when he finds out about this?

It is her selflessness that she still loves and respects her dad when he is least bothered about her and her happiness. She is still choosing her family over Sameer.

I think one key difference between Naina and Sameer is that since childhood Sameer has stayed alone. He has done things on his own, handled difficult situations alone, taken his own decisions and hence he is more independent and street smart. He doesn't have any obligation towards anyone and hence he is more carefree.

However on the other hand, Naina is always being told what to do, never allowed to take her decisions and always reminded that she is dependent on her family for everything. Hence she never got any Independence or freedom to make choices. She is under obligation of her family.

Hi Dr. Don

Originally posted by: rock&roll

Lovely post once again Doc.You are on a post making spree indeed.👏.Good to read your pov again.

Cold practicality 😆..Well,I do agree that Naina is getting a bit too practical,but at this point I wouldn't go so far as to say that her decisions are based on cold practicality.Her actions are ruled by a mixture of practicality,confusion,obligation,taking a moral high ground and sheer helplessness.

When it came to leaving Sameer,I agree that Naina showed "cold practicality".She assessed her situation,thought what was feasible and what was not and introspected on her own strengths,weaknesses and current situation .She then calmly decided that she was a bigger coward than Arjun and could NEVER EVER admit that she loved Sameer in front of her family.She decided to uphold her family's honour and the easy way to do this?Dump Sameer..This was a purely selfish decision made keeping ONLY HER INTERESTS IN MIND.She became coldly practical here.

Coming to her prayer:The line"Main Sameer se dur jaana chahti thi,par is tarah nahin" sent shock waves through me too.I know the girl is in shock and pain ,especially after her marriage talks.But her prayers were all about her..Her dreams and aspirations,her chachaji's happiness,her own happiness...The least she could have done was pray that Sameer should be happy.She could have asked God to give Sameer a good life and the strength to bear the infinite pain that she had heaped on him for no fault of his.But not a word about him there...It was all about her..and on top of that she lays down conditions..saying"I want to be away from Sameer,but not like this"!!!Amazed and dumb founded..Sounds really selfish to me.

However,I wouldn't say that her practicality is going weak when it comes to her current situation.This is where I disagree slightly with you.When her father calls her a jhanjhat and her Taiji calls her ugly,she is hurt very badly and almost broken.But does she convey her emotions?No...She smiles through her tears and feebly voices her dissent,which she knows will carry no value.But she never shows her emotions and doesn't break down .She doesn't rebel by refusing to eat,sleep,not wearing a saree when the boy comes to see her etc.She doesn't try to or think of attempting suicide(which many might have done under the circumstances).She knows that her life,her dreams and aspirations are all over.She has become cold and numb from within.But her practicality rules her.She goes through the motions for the sake of her family because is too scared to speak up and too obligated to rebel.

In short,I see Naina as way too practical.Too practical to even think of her own emotions.Initially I thought that she was throwing away Sameer's emotions for the sake of her family.I thought this made her selfish.But here she is throwing away her emotions,dreams ,hopes..everything for her family.She is snuffing the life out of herself at the tender age of 18 for her family's "honour" and the obligation she feels for them.She will willingly give her life for her family.This makes her an extremely unselfish girl from her family's pov.It is not Sameer who is secondary in life... It is emotions that play a secondary role in her life,even if those emotions are her own.

Having said that,he almost shows no care for Sameer's feelings.She expects him to sacrifice his love because she is willingly sacrificing hers.This makes her very selfish from Sameer's pov(she expects Sameer to make a sacrifice for her family and that is an unreasonable demand).

Now I would like to reiterate one thing. Naina is fundamentally selfish and practical.She will take the path of least resistance always.She will also try to please the people whom she is dependent on or whom she needs most.(At least,this is what she has done till date,she may change later).Today,she needs her chacha chachi more than anyone.She is dependent on them.So she throws Sameer away without a second thought because it is the practical thing to do.Tomorrow,when she is married to Sameer,I wouldn't be surprised if she overrules her Chacha Chachi or completely goes against her Taiji and father for Sameer. When she is married to Sameer,he will automatically occupy No 1 position in her life,then her family will become secondary for her.That is how Naina works.Practicality rules all the time.When she has to choose between A and B,she will not make her decision based on A or B's emotions or what is morally right.(She can find justifications for that).She will decide based on who is more important to her at that point in life.For that person,she can give up everything,including herself.

So what does this make her?Practical?Definitely...Loyal?Certainly,fiercely loyal to her family(defintion of family will change with time)...Selfish?Sure,but in parts because she will sacrifice for the person she is dependent on or whom she needs most.But she won't sacrifice for everyone...Cold hearted?A bit maybe,but very warm to towards her family(the definition of family may change with time)...Emotionless?No, just having the capability to hide her emotions...A coward?Yes,to an extent...

Putting all this together,I think it simply makes Naina human...A person slightly more practical than others maybe,but human nevertheless😊

Originally posted by: SixteenAgain

I agree that in retrospect the VOs are laughing and making light of these decisions they took in the moment only because today they are happily married to each other. But after this forced one sided break-up by Naina things could have gone horribly bad for either or both and then there would have been nothing funny about all of this. Currently from an analysis POV we should be focusing on only the present.

If it is a matter of comparing the 18 years of love showered by her chacha Chachi to the 3 years with Sameer... than she is going to wait for 19 years post her marriage before she starts prioritising her husband? That is illogical. Depth and worth of a commitment cannot be measured only in terms of elapsed time. Or is it to be determined on the basis of the number of people to bear witness to your act of commitment?

Her prayer.. her apparent lack of concern for his wellbeing is very selfish. I don't know if it is poor direction but it does not come across as she is in any acute pain or guilt over her treatment of Sameer.

I personally think the CVs are not really thinking through the whole story! Just adding tracks after tracks not consistent with the character sketch introduced before. It's as if they are out to try all different scenarios which could have derailed this love story.

Originally posted by: shahz

Bang on 👏👏👏

I honestly cant connect with this Naina... I feel nothing when I see her cry while my heart breaks when I see Sameer sobbing.

I am not choosing Sameer over Naina but as you said this is not our Naina.

She has indeed turned cold and practical.

I can't connect this Naina to the Naina who was sobbing in class cuz she missed Sameer who walked around lifeless when he was in Delhi.

And what is she doing all this for... Her father Taiji Tauji who only think of her as jhanjat. Chacha may love her to bits but when the time came can't really stand up strongly for her. He is jus too obedient to stand up strongly against his elders.

I also didn't like the way she prayed in yesterday's episode. I don't know if Naina will even see Sameer in the condition he is in now but I really hope she does and we get to atleast get a glimpse of Sameers Naina.