Naina - The Transformation from LOVE to COLD PRACTICALITY

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Hi there, myself Don. This is another analysis from the events of the previous episode.

Few points before I start the post.
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  • I do not say that my analysis is absolute or the definite answer.
  • Please read the post in the entirety for better understanding.
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With this clear, let's start the analysis

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Naina - The transformation from Deep Love to Cold Practicality.



The post is based on the events till episode aired on 31st July.

Previous episode: The saving grace in the previous episode was the VO that indicated that there will be events or comedy of errors that will finally resolve this ongoing issue between S & N.

Like every other watcher, I was elated how this will proceed and this issue will head towards resolve.

However, the VO masked or covered a very striking change in Naina character graph which was apparent during the Prayer sequence, which I found extremely prominent not to notice.

I don't know how many others felt so?

But few readers did comment regarding that in my previous post.

You might ask whats so prominent and why?

Let me explain.

The most powerful factor that drew me and the majority of us to the story was the unwavering and steady belief of Naina, a teenager, in her love and unending dedication to the person she loved - Sameer!

Naina scaled the initial crush to deep care. She took efforts to understand the boy. Naina's love and dedication were so, so powerful that the Rich, arrogant and the self-loving boy could not stop the good changes in himself.

We all felt bad when Naina's dreams of love were broken by the revelation of bet truth.



However, by then the power of Naina's love had completely changed Sameer. From a self-centered and ME person, Sameer transformed into an all giving, caring and sacrificing boy who was ready to do anything for his Naina.

He, in fact, did everything he can and all the adjustment he could (abuses, slaps, insults and physical pains).

Such was the power of Naina's love that the BOY with the Golden Spoon changed (without even trying) everything about himself to be worthy of Naina's love.

He wanted to be worthy of her acceptance and approval.

Naina's love had that much power to make Sameer a much better person than even he was and he went through everything that he can to make Naina believe in love again.



As Naina said in one of her statements " Thank you Sameer for Not Leaving and Giving Up on me after the Bet Phase"

In all these phases, Naina had all the chances to just move away from Sameer in spite of all his efforts.

But how could she!

It's hard to resist the pull of love when someone you want, loves you with even more deeper intensity.

She couldn't stay away for Sameer and together both of them fell from deeper to the deepest level of love, care, and emotional dependency.

This unwavering love of Naina from such a young age was the reason that all of us got hooked to the story.

But all through this journey, the young Naina was slowly showing the progression to the aspect of cold practicality when it comes of her immediate family. (though she was not conscious about it).

She was vocal about the virtues of love but at the same time, she was closed to any other view when it came to people in her clan.

  • The issue of Arjun stealing paper is still a hidden fact.
  • The issue of Arjun faking his injury was still a hidden fact till the latter end of the marriage.
(In both the above scenarios Sameer was the accused)

These may not be such major instances at that moment however they hinted at Naina's apprehension and growing Practicality when it comes to her clan.

But, Naina never stopped loving Sameer. Her love for Sameer kept growing and at the same time in some corner of her mind the Cold Practicality also kept on growing.

Sameer or any person, when showered with so much love is bound to be deeply attached to the person giving that love. With the past emotional issues, Sameer gets way ahead into Love in terms of depth.

For Sameer, Naina is his fantasy and also the Practicality & Reality that has to happen.

There is no demarcation between his love and practicality. Yes, he is confident of his Riches and Family Name Power but to him, they are just the accessories to get his ultimate reality - love and companionship of Naina.


But it is apparent that Naina was able to keep the two aspects separate.

All the real moments that she had willingly spent with Sameer were immediately switched over to fantasies that cannot be achieved.

Naina shelved all those moments with Sameer as a fantasy that was good as long as it lasted.

And the fact which Naina knew - Sameer would stand by her when the time comes became a fantasy for her. (which Naina has thoroughly evaluated by evaluating Sameer's Shadi wala Pyaar and knowing that Sameer has that Shadi wala Live for her)

Her fear to face the family and her hesitation to bring the family name down became such a powerful reality and that reality of Sameer loving her to marry her became a fantasy that was good while it lasted.

Sameer is currently lost trying every conventional and unconventional way to cope with Naina's altered reality. For him, Naina was his practicality and fantasy and now he does not know what to do.



The cold practicality of Naina that was growing since the school days is now an all-consuming force.

With that cold practicality, she has cut Sameer from her. She is paining for it but she is still the correct one in her mind. In her practical mind, she feels she did the right thing and also believes it is to the good for Sameer.

Her practical mind has made her oblivious to Sameer's pain. She realizes his pain but yet distant from it. She herself feels the pain but the practicality just overshadows it.

With practicality, She calls him to tell him via songs, we are not meant to be together.

But her practicality has become selective.

She is not practically realizing that Sameer is beyond that point of getting back and is hurting more than ever. It makes her believe it's for his good.

However, that practicality switches off when her own father calls her a "Janjhat. Where her elders are not bothered for her education and just wants to marry her off. Yet again, when it came to her and their injustice to her, the practicality goes weak.



If you had read my previous post- Naina, decisions, and ripples: where I had covered the Decisions of Naina and their impacts, there is detailed analysis of cause and actions.

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It's not that I do not understand the situation of Naina. When Chachaji is speechless in front of elders, what is her Aukat in front of them?

Her father calls her Jhanjhat. Taiji calls her ugly. They do not even have the pity to let the girl complete her education.

She is practical enough to know that she and her future means nothing to them. It is utterly painful for any girl to be treated as unwanted as a commodity.

And the only person for whom she is the world and most beautiful, (other than Chachaji, Chachiji & Preeti), and who only wants to give her all the happiness is lost in his own battle coping with the unilateral decision of separation. Her decision that came as a kneejerk has set in the motion sequence of events affecting her and Sameer's entire being.

There can still be a way out if she can confide in Sameer. Only if she can understand her pain and also the pain of Sameer and if she realizes that her approach, in this case, is not correct. But for that, she needs to help herself and at least initiate to do so.

So, if I understand Naina's situation then what is the point here?

The point is she is letting the scenario slip further into complicacy, as she has taken for granted that Sameer will at best be sad for some days but eventually get over it.

If she is thinking in that terms, that means, she also feels that though painful, she will get over Sameer one day or another and move on with someone else. She is by default ready to replace Sameer with another man, not may be now but few years down than line. Cold Practicality again!

In other words, she assumes that Sameer will move on and also believes that Sameer is expendable from her life. She does not seem to realize the void sameer is falling in to and it might have consequences.

That's where it is the transformation of a dedicated, intelligent & loving girl to Cold Hard Practical Woman (when it concerns the love of her life). That means finally true love was killed at the hands of Practicality that was growing in Naina since school.

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Coming back to the yesterday's episode:

The VO was the only this that made me elated. It hinted at a sequence of events or comedy of errors that will soon lead to resolution of the issue.

But VO is retrospective. In the present, it has no role as no one knows about it. So, irrespective of the outcome, a person is to be judged by the actions in the present.

(If we are happy in a retrospective way - then should be happy that Sameer played with the dignity of a girls reputation and love for taking revenge? Is it justified to play with a girl's dignity? Can we say, what he did right because then only he fell in love with Naina?)

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However, other than that, the wording of Naina was not again in tune with her character of the initial days.

When praying to God, She says "God! Please show some way. Get me out of this situation. I want to live life, I want to read, I want a career for Chachaji's Happiness." And I want to move away from Sameer, but not in this way"

The prayer was again was in tune with her approach in unilaterally deciding to move away from Sameer.

In her prayer, she asks for everyone's happiness except Sameer's and adds that she wants to be away from Sameer.

Her sense of misplaced virtue that she is doing it for the good of Sameer still stands.



She has let of go of Sameer entirely - the conversion to cold practicality. She is concerned right now not to get married.

Even if this marriage proposal does not work, she escapes this allegiance. But eventually, she is ready to push Sameer away and marry someone else after college.

There did not appear any sadness or guilt for How Sameer would feel seeing her with another Man. It's like all those lectures on love and she did finally this? Also, she will keep on neglecting Sameer for 3 years after she escapes from this allegiance. Again a very cold practical decision.

Naina says " Main Sameer Se Duur jana Chati Hoon, Par iss Tarah Nahin"

Then kis tarah?

If not today then tomorrow you will marry someone. (in-front of Sameer) (with the false sense of pride that she is helping Sameer & at the same time upholding some imaginary virtue)

I state a false sense of virtue because she very well known her family for whom she is pushing Sameer to extremes, do not give a damn about her, her future and her happiness.

Yet, she cannot let go of the high moral ground that what she did is for good of Sameer. Again a cold sense of practicality that tells her who she can erase easily at that point.

Naina's prayer appeared a bit SELFISH in my view. Again Naina was all about me, me and me - my study, my dreams, my chachaji dreams and I want to leave Sameer. (I will bear the pain and let him suffer too. It's for his good!)



In short, Sameer is still Expendable and secondary to her clan (even after all the incidences with her family members that clearly makes her understand that in her own family she is the one who is expendable)

However, the saving grace was the VO that did indicate that at least there will be some incidence and comedy of errors that will resolve this issue.

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Please do not assume that I am being negative of the scenarios and character. As I said before, retrospectively we can visualize many things. It must have happened with you also.

However, when you were in the present, at that moment facing a particular situation, only that moment of time and the action of people in response to that defines the people for you.

And this assessment is based on the reactions of the characters as we see them doing and reacting as they do.

VO clearly indicates that there will be events that will initiate a closure of the issue.

And I hope to see Naina emerge as an Initiator at the least.

No one expects to see her as a Super Woman.

But, at the very least, I want the dedicated girl back who was in love and was ready to do anything (possible within her limits) for the person she loves and who loves her more than her.



To give Sameer that validation that he indeed is not secondary in her life. That she wants him forever. That it was just a phase for her and not a cold practical decision that did not consider his real happiness.

The current COLD & PRACTICAL Naina needs to give way to the happy and sweet Naina determined to do at lest small initiatives to save her LOVE.

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As always, all your views - criticism and support is welcome.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Nice analysis. She thinks that by staying away from sameer she is doing the best for him.but its not best for him, he is going wrong in pain. Nobody cares for naina except chachaji ,chachi and preeti. We can rule out arjun since he is not visible now. Naina should open her eyes and see who is around her,and who love her. For rakesh she is just a lifeless object. Honesty speaking i wouldn't be able to love and respect such a father wholeheartedly if i was in her place. She is actually someway blind to sameer's condition. Want her to see him and understand what she and her love made him. Then only she would realize her folly and correct it.
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Very nice analysis right now i m unable to connect with Naina character to which i fell in love in first place and yes yesterday her prayers were again showing her me mai mai side only i m still unable to find where is that love for sameer she claimed in all these years which is not even having its place in her prayers.
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Bang on 👏👏👏
I honestly cant connect with this Naina... I feel nothing when I see her cry while my heart breaks when I see Sameer sobbing.
I am not choosing Sameer over Naina but as you said this is not our Naina.
She has indeed turned cold and practical.
I can't connect this Naina to the Naina who was sobbing in class cuz she missed Sameer who walked around lifeless when he was in Delhi.
And what is she doing all this for... Her father Taiji Tauji who only think of her as jhanjat. Chacha may love her to bits but when the time came can't really stand up strongly for her. He is jus too obedient to stand up strongly against his elders.
I also didn't like the way she prayed in yesterday's episode. I don't know if Naina will even see Sameer in the condition he is in now but I really hope she does and we get to atleast get a glimpse of Sameers Naina.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi Don
Thanks for the PM.
I read your post but now I am running out of time ,I will comment after some time. Lots to say.

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Hey doc,
Thanks for your PM.. I appreciate you taking the time to write down such detailed analysis. But frankly speaking I think this is not best of your writings. I felt it is too big and repetitive on few points. Hope you don't mind my view on this.

However I agree that Naina seems to be least concerned about Sameer. Agree she wants to distance herself from him but I wonder if she never felt a need to find about how is he coping up without her. She could have tried to find indirectly through Preeti or Swati asking Munna. College holidays means no connection with friends???
During prayer, I also felt that yeah sirf chachaji ke baare main sochte rahi hai?? Why is she not thinking what will Sameer go through when he finds out about this?

It is her selflessness that she still loves and respects her dad when he is least bothered about her and her happiness. She is still choosing her family over Sameer.

I think one key difference between Naina and Sameer is that since childhood Sameer has stayed alone. He has done things on his own, handled difficult situations alone, taken his own decisions and hence he is more independent and street smart. He doesn't have any obligation towards anyone and hence he is more carefree.
However on the other hand, Naina is always being told what to do, never allowed to take her decisions and always reminded that she is dependent on her family for everything. Hence she never got any Independence or freedom to make choices. She is under obligation of her family.

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Hi Dr.Don,
Amazing write up. You stated Naina now and Naina before effortlessly. I agree with that.

But for a change I will try to be Devil's ( read Devi's😆) advocate.

Are we expecting too much from an 18 year old? Do we have that much mature girls and boys equally at the age of 18?
I don't think so.

I feel we are quick to jump to conclusions, she is going through a learning process and we are considering it as end result?

First, she fell in love at 16, the impracticle girl, is it wrong to learn more about practicality?
Agree she should have done earlier rather before falling in love, but if she didn't at that time, does it mean she should never?

Second, she broke up and she wants to move on, she will be OK with another guy, I wanna know is it wrong to move on?
I feel we are judging her because of Sam's extreme aftermath.whatif any Sameer moves on with smile?
Should any Naina be there feeling guilty and stuck at the same spot?

Third,how can she give him assurance when she can't give assurance to herself about her own future?

Forget khandaan ki izzat but she has a family like doting chacha and chachi,wedding with Sam means forgetting her chachi chacha forever, how can one would choose that?
If she chooses Sameer, she becomes selfish. If she chooses chacha chachi she becomes selfish.
So, she preferrred love of 18 years than love of 3 years.

So, I would like to conclude that she is going through a phase of learning love and practicality.
Earlier she had gone through phase of learning love and studies, now we can see the end result, she has mastered it.
Likewise she will do with the former, let's give her some time and not to confuse with her journey as end result.
Edited by -Ross- - 7 years ago
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Great post Don, and I see that my thoughts mirror Ross's thoughts here. He has written very well. I'm copying my rep,y from Ross's thread.


Naina's prayer to God seemed confusing at first but then it made sense. She is faced with this situation of marriage which has come as a shock to her. When she broke up with Sameer in her mind it's done for good. She is miserable no doubt and knows he is to and expects that they will move on with time. Since she initiated this she is trying to accept it whereas Sameer isn't able to move on.

She says shaadi Wala pyar but has only imagined that things will just fall into place for them. ShefJun drama was the first jolt and then Shefali hammered the thought in her about her family and her lack of courage.

Again she thought break up ke baad they will move on, college, job etcc etcc. This rishta twist she never imagined and it came up suddenly and she doesn't know what to do.

Hence her prayer to God to get her out of this situation for now. Because breaking up with Sameer did not mean the end of everything else in life. Since Chachaji has these expectations from her that is how far she thinks.

I'm not sure I made much sense here, but I just felt in her prayer to God there was no reason for her to pray for Sameer or for them both etcc

The depth of Sameer's love and her lack of understanding the same will dawn on her soon..

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Originally posted by: -Ross-

Hi Dr.Don,
Amazing write up. You stated Naina now and Naina before effortlessly. I agree with that.

But for a change I will try to be Devil's ( read Devi's😆) advocate.

Are we expecting too much from an 18 year old? Do we have that much mature girls and boys equally at the age of 18?
I don't think so.

I feel we are quick to jump to conclusions, she is going through a learning process and we are considering it as end result?

First, she fell in love at 16, the impracticle girl, is it wrong to learn more about practibility?
Agree she should have done earlier rather before falling in love, but if she didn't at that time, does it mean she should never?

Second, she broke up and she wants to move on, she will be OK with another guy, I wanna know is it wrong to move on?
I feel we are judging her because of Sam's extreme aftermath.whatif any Sameer moves on with smile?
Should any Naina be there feeling guilty and stuck at the same spot?

Third,how can she give him assurance when she can't give assurance to herself about her own future?

Forget khandaan ki izzat but she has a family like doting chacha and chachi,wedding with Sam means forgetting her chachi chacha forever, how can one would choose that?
If she chooses Sameer, she becomes selfish. If she chooses chacha chachi she becomes selfish.
So, she preferrred love of 18 years than love of 3 years.

So, I would like to conclude that she is going through a phase of learning love and practibility.
Earlier she had gone through phase of learning love and studies, now we can see the end result, she has mastered it.
Likewise she will do with the former, let's give her some time and not to confuse with her journey as end result.


I second you. For me she is miles away from practicality. She is just gave up on herself and her happiness that is Sameer. She is living in the world of utopia and believes it is for Sameer's good and started to believe that she is exactly like Arjun. ( Thanks to shefali and her advice which implanted in her heart so deeply that she cannot overcome it) In her dream she saw that both of Sameer and her accepting their love infront of the family and that is her subconscious. Where she knows that she will positively not deny Sameer, if the same situation like Sefjun arrives. But, the trauma of seeing her own father trying to commit suicide, Trust and promise of Chachaji, Taunting of family has made her thinking ability blurred and she is stucked in Shefali's word of wishdom. The topper brain has been paralyzed by the sudden occurance of the events one after another. She is actually in self destructive mode where she has convinced herself that it is for Sameer's well being. The strike of bitter reality of her side has broken her into pieces. Let, this pieces demolished in sand then this sand will fly with Sameer or Sameer needs to become storm to blow away all her pieces with him. Both of them are battling with the withdrawal syndromes, where Naina seems to be strong and practical but Sameer seems to be impractical and mad and funny too (for viewers)
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Originally posted by: -Ross-

Hi Dr.Don,
Amazing write up. You stated Naina now and Naina before effortlessly. I agree with that.

But for a change I will try to be Devil's ( read Devi's😆) advocate.

Are we expecting too much from an 18 year old? Do we have that much mature girls and boys equally at the age of 18?
I don't think so.

I feel we are quick to jump to conclusions, she is going through a learning process and we are considering it as end result?

First, she fell in love at 16, the impracticle girl, is it wrong to learn more about practibility?
Agree she should have done earlier rather before falling in love, but if she didn't at that time, does it mean she should never?

Second, she broke up and she wants to move on, she will be OK with another guy, I wanna know is it wrong to move on?
I feel we are judging her because of Sam's extreme aftermath.whatif any Sameer moves on with smile?
Should any Naina be there feeling guilty and stuck at the same spot?

Third,how can she give him assurance when she can't give assurance to herself about her own future?

Forget khandaan ki izzat but she has a family like doting chacha and chachi,wedding with Sam means forgetting her chachi chacha forever, how can one would choose that?
If she chooses Sameer, she becomes selfish. If she chooses chacha chachi she becomes selfish.
So, she preferrred love of 18 years than love of 3 years.

So, I would like to conclude that she is going through a phase of learning love and practibility.
Earlier she had gone through phase of learning love and studies, now we can see the end result, she has mastered it.
Likewise she will do with the former, let's give her some time and not to confuse with her journey as end result.


Hi Ross,

Thank you for your views.

You have raised some valid points and let me put-forth my POV regarding those you have raised.

Your Point Number 1: Are we expecting too much from an 18 year old? Do we have that much mature girls and boys equally at the age of 18?

I personally feel 18 is old enough to understand the practicalities of life and also the basics of relationship if you are in one. (as per the serial time line she is now 18 months and more than 6 months. I suppose)

Yes, one may or may not have adequate control over life, depending on various social and economical factors. But still, at 18 one is evidently clear about many facets of love and companionship.

The learning phase you mentioned, as far as Naina goes, she has learnt along with Sameer the experiences of love and love affair dynamics and what goes with it. You have to evolve when you spend so much time together and deeply loving each other.

Hence, no one can say definitely whether an 18 year old in a more than 3 year old deep loving relationship has evolved or not.

However, I personally believe, such a deep love and affection spanning for years (and nearly 4 years is not a short time) make individuals evolve. Being a thinking girl, that she is, Naina has evolved and Sameer may not be expecting too much from her. She is very well capable of trying to work towards making her love a reality. At-least an attempt is warranted and she is capable of doing that.

But, between the fear of losing Sameer vs making the clan angry, she chose the easier option out.

To answer: Sameer may not be expecting too much out of Naina. In-fact Naina is stopping herself even after seeing and feeling the Depth of Sameer's feeling for her. Its a conscious decision which only a capable girl can take.

Your point number 2: Naina & Sameer are both going through a learning phase.

I have answered that partly in the previous explanation.

They both have been in a committed and deep relation for nearly a 4 years. At 18 and half years and 20 years, the learning phase is way past.

I agree relations (even after marriage are all about learning. We all should enjoy and find happiness in that learning).

However, when the time comes for a life changing decision where two lives are concerned, one nearing 19 and another 20 (in the era of early 90s), individuals cannot hide under the garb of just a learning phase. You need to act.

Your point number 3: she broke up and she wants to move on, she will be OK with another guy, I wanna know is it wrong to move on?

Nothing at all. As an individual and as a woman, Naina has all the right to leave Sameer and marry any one she wants to.

Her life is not defined by Sameer or anyone. She can and she should be with any one she wants (and if the other person also wants that).

Yes, Sameer will be hurt. But him being hurt DOES NOT MEAN that Naina has to soothe him if she does not want to be with him.

People take decisions in the present. But they judge the quality of the decision depending on how it pans out in the coming times.

For example: Naina might end up marrying a very decent guy and move on happily and Sameer due to Naina's denial turns cold and un trustful of women.

Both might move on happily and remember each other as the first love with some good memories and bad memories.

Or Naina's decision might turn out Horribly wrong where she might end up having a restrictive married life where she is not able to do anything she ever dreamt of (like writing) other than being restricted only to the house hold. Sameer in the hind sight might be married to Sunaina and retrospectively think that he escaped from the clutches of Naina's MAD family and SS 😆

Any combination is possible. And depending on whats is the outcome, retrospectively Sameer & Naina will evaluate their decision.

Your point number 4: Forget khandaan ki izzat but she has a family like doting chacha and chachi,wedding with Sam means forgetting her chachi chacha forever, how can one would choose that?

Answer to this plain and simple. Other than Chachaji and Chachiji & Preety, No one gives a hoot about her.

They just want to kick her out and get rid of the burden asap via marriage. Chachaji/Chachiji cannot stop it. Taiji wants Naina to be married to any guy not based on the merit of the boy. She is scared that she might get married to some affluent family. Her criteria is to send Naina off to any family where she can never raise her head.

Hence, if Naina, defies all and marries Sameer, then Chacha, Chachi might be angry in the beginning but seeing her happy with the person she loves, they will eventually come around. Other will also eventually come around (being greedy for Maheswari Name Association)

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No one knows the end of the story.

As we are hearing a story in retrospective there is an air of definite within uncertainty. However, take that VO out, then the possibilities are many.

And as stated before, we feel about a decision as good or bad (involving relations) not immediately but as time passes.

Depending on the existing experience, old decision becomes good or foolish.

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Thanks again Ross for some amazing counter points that many will have. I enjoyed presenting my POV.

Regards.

(N.B: I will soon be going through your thread. Its pending 😃)
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