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Posted: 7 years ago
#11
Thanks Minu and Meher for wonderful insight into the scene😃
Minu your version obviously I wasn't aware of but I had similar thoughts as Meher when I read this post😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I can nowhere dig as deep in symbolism as Minu... and I do feel she has covered all the points... However, I do have a tiny bit to add, especially about the desk. 😊

Firstly, the rose -

The most common interpretation of rose gifted / sent by a lover is immortal love or a union that will never fade. Sameer and Naina's love is like that, for eternity, standing strong through the test of times.

If we look at tarot, rose symbolizes balance. Relationships, especially between a couple, is all about balance. When Sameer lost hope from himself, when he was in a deep abyss of loneliness, the rose from Naina came as a balance in his life giving him hopes - hope of new beginning, hope of promises of love.

Now coming to the desk -

The desk shown today was polished to the utmost shine, almost like newly painted, and uncluttered. It symbolizes healthy mental state - a clean and refreshed mind. When Sameer placed the rose on that desk he was crystal clear about what he needed to do. His mind was no longer clouded with the fake drama, fake friendship, or the facade of arrogance. He returned to a refreshing state, where he was ready to act upon something he already sensed was wrong somewhere deep-down in his heart.

Now about the "rose on the desk" -

In Feng Shui, it is suggested to keep something from outdoors on desk to keep yourself connected to reality, to keep yourself grounded, to stay healthy. It could be stones, shells, flowers anything connected to nature. That rose on his desk is going to keep Sameer connected to his promises now, keep him grounded to the fact that he cannot take Naina's love for granted, and also he is finally in a healthy state of mind to start his journey towards becoming Sameer Jaiprakash Maheshwari.

Hope I could add something worthy. 😳

Edited by moumita04 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: TereLiyeMINU

@Ashu Di: After seeing the epi I felt that the one I had mentioned about and Meher Di so beautifully explained are the points CVs have infused into screen.

However delving a little bit more,I stormed my brain to find out if there exists any link between wilted rose and furniture.

Which I found,though present very negligibly,in 'Beauty and Beast'.
The roses represent love, for starters, which obviously connects to the whole point of this play. In the traditional fairy tale, the wilting of the rose symbolizes Beauty leaving the Beast, making us wonder if their love is going to last or not. Here, it shifts a little bit to be a little more indirect: symbolizing the Beast's chances at love rather than the shared loved between the couple.

Roses are also symbols of mystery: opening slowly to reveal their beauty only after you take the time to get to know them. That's in keeping with the whole romance thing, but in this case, the rose has already bloomed and begun to wilt. For Belle, it represents a different sort of mystery: the mystery surrounding the Beast and how he came to be that way.
There is a slight mention of 'forbidden rooms' and 'furniture.'
Don't know if CVs have thought of 'Beauty and Beast'.But happy that the 'rose' did instigate his right conscience.😳


This one is brilliant...!! Hats off to you darling...! 👏👏
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Posted: 7 years ago
#14
Such brilliant interpretations by each talented person...hats off to the collective thoughts...just raised the symbolism of the scene to another level
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: TereLiyeMINU

<font size="3" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Di ! I have n't seen the epi yet but I know what you are hinting at..</font>

<font size="3" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">The Rose here is symbolism of redemption and new beginning.</font>
<font size="3" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">In ancient times, the rose was also dedicated to the Sun and Aurora, goddess of the dawn. One can say that it was a symbol of the renewal of life, and thus the dawn - the first day or the resurrection.</font>

<font size="3" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Going by the meaning of the 'rose cross' that is sometimes associated with pre-christian and christian ideals: the cross and the rose symbolize the dawn of eternal life and the arrival of the Savior.</font>

<font size="3" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Hope I am able to provide some insight.😳</font>




Wow... what a great meaning. I salute you.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mehraan

i feel he derived strength out of it...😆..U kno like wen u get a warm pat on ur back or a forehead kiss from ur loved ones...u hve tat happiness satisfaction of ur near ones with u... the motivation to mke them proud...All thse gestures of overwhelming n unconditional grattitude.!..Similarly i felt tat rose vich was send by his love...nurtured bloomed n taken care by her own very hands was like her support...her guidance ...her being with him at that very moment where he was weak n she gve him tat drive ,encouragement n strength to speak up ..stand for it!!...Tat kiss symbolized wat Naina actually means to him...n tat rose gve him tat courage n comfort to go ahead!



Superb Yaar. How u guys are able to interpret each and every scene so perfectly. Until now I didn't know that there is actually hidden meaning in each and every scene that u see on screen. Hats off to you.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: moumita04

I can nowhere dig as deep in symbolism as Minu... and I do feel she has covered all the points... However, I do have a tiny bit to add, especially about the desk. 😊

Firstly, the rose -

The most common interpretation of rose gifted / sent by a lover is immortal love or a union that will never fade. Sameer and Naina's love is like that, for eternity, standing strong through the test of times.

If we look at tarot, rose symbolizes balance. Relationships, especially between a couple, is all about balance. When Sameer lost hope from himself, when he was in a deep abyss of loneliness, the rose from Naina came as a balance in his life giving him hopes - hope of new beginning, hope of promises of love.

Now coming to the desk -

The desk shown today was polished to the utmost shine, almost like newly painted, and uncluttered. It symbolizes healthy mental state - a clean and refreshed mind. When Sameer placed the rose on that desk he was crystal clear about what he needed to do. His mind was no longer clouded with the fake drama, fake friendship, or the facade of arrogance. He returned to a refreshing state, where he was ready to act upon something he already sensed was wrong somewhere deep-down in his heart.

Now about the "rose on the desk" -

In Feng Shui, it is suggested to keep something from outdoors on desk to keep yourself connected to reality, to keep yourself grounded, to stay healthy. It could be stones, shells, flowers anything connected to nature. That rose on his desk is going to keep Sameer connected to his promises now, keep him grounded to the fact that he cannot take Naina's love for granted, and also he is finally in a healthy state of mind to start his journey towards becoming Sameer Jaiprakash Maheshwari.

Hope I could add something worthy. 😳

You elucidated it really well darling!Hugs for this.🤗 You know I was expecting your comment here totaally knowing how excellent you are with 'flower' symbolism.. I just added the literature version but you did marvel at bringing to the fore what Ashu Di intended to ask and understand..👏
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Posted: 7 years ago
#18
Thanks Ashu Di,Mehr Di,Nancy,Koyal,Simi,Manisha,Mou and Jay for appreciation.😃
Edited by TereLiyeMINU - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: TereLiyeMINU

You elucidated it really well darling!Hugs for this.🤗 You know I was expecting your comment here totaally knowing how excellent you are with 'flower' symbolism.. I just added the literature version but you did marvel at bringing to the fore what Ashu Di intended to ask and understand..👏


Thank you so much Minu...!! 😳
Main khush ho gai bahot zyada... Love you! 🤗
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: moumita04

<font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">I
can nowhere dig as deep in symbolism as Minu... and I do feel she has covered
all the points...However,
I do have a tiny bit to add, especially about the desk.😊</font>


<font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Firstly,
the rose -</font>


<font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">The
most common interpretation of rose gifted / sent by a lover is<font color="#0000ff"> immortal love or
a union that will never fade</font>. Sameer and Naina's love is like that, for eternity,
standing strong through the test of times.</font>


<font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">If
we look at tarot, rose symbolizes<font color="#0000ff">balance</font>. Relationships, especially between a
couple, is all about balance. When Sameer lost hope from himself, when he was in
a deep abyss of loneliness, the rose from Naina came as a balance in his life
giving him hopes - hope of new beginning, hope of promises of love.</font>


<font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Now
coming to the desk -</font>


<font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">The
desk shown today was polished to the utmost shine, almost like newly painted,
and uncluttered. It symbolizes<font color="#0000ff">healthy mental state - a clean and refreshed mind</font>.
When Sameer placed the rose on that desk he was crystal clear about what he
needed to do. His mind was no longer clouded with the fake drama, fake friendship,
or the facade of arrogance. He returned to a refreshing state, where he was
ready to act upon something he already sensed was wrong somewhere deep-down in
his heart.</font>


<font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Now
about the "rose on the desk" -</font>


<font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">In
Feng Shui, it is suggested to keep something from outdoors on desk to<font color="#0000ff"> keep
yourself connected to reality, to keep yourself grounded, to stay healthy</font>. It could
be stones, shells, flowers anything connected to nature. That rose on his desk is going to keep
Sameer connected to his promises now, keep him grounded to the fact that he
cannot take Naina's love for granted, and also he is finally in a healthy state
of mind to start his journey towards becoming Sameer Jaiprakash Maheshwari.</font>

<font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Hope I could add something worthy.😳</font>



Perfect !! The last part is what I was searching for ...why on the desk?? Now it makes sense ...thank you so much Mou!! 👏

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