witness of about someone on verge of rape

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I, a little gal around 12 years old who was happy enjoying kite flying on 14th Jan full volume music played on all terraces... with all family members friends, some know unknown people, happily taking the fresh air on terrace eating chiki, popcorn, peanuts. then suddenly i think of getting some cold water as in any weather cold/hot i wud drink chilled water always... i was wearing black jeans and maroon top... the place we were is a 3 storeid building...
so since i m thursty i walk down to get water... as i reached the second floor i saw a man opening up the pyajama of a young gal probably of the same age as me or even younger. he was holding her very tightly... she seemed like the maid n too weak to resist anything... i saw fearing shivering with blood red eyes... trying to shout but too loud for anyone to hear her voice...

as i stepped in i froze. i froze completely. dint understand what it exactly meant the man's genital exposed and the gal terrified in his firm grip... i dint realise make out what exactly was happening n what m i suppose to do... but i cud sense fear in her shivering voice... the pain. a fragile gal like me at that moment dint knew how to react... the man wasnt scared. he told me to just go away... i dont know how i just said Jai Mata Di and took the long handle broom n threatened to beat him... he wasnt scared he wasnt scared at all since a fragile gal with a broom cudnt cause him much damage... the only thing that worked for me was i just pretend that someone else was coming and he loosen the grip on the victim and we both just ran up to the terrace... i told everything to my family and hers as well... but u know what they said it will tarnish the gals image and that man is like that only... he keeps doing that...

till date that scene is right in front of me...


and it haunts it haunts it haunts


so if anyone thinks i tarnished their SAMEER's image by my yesterday post or I m not trying to understand what he is going through, remember read all the comments there in - I have said CV cud hv taken the liberty and shown him Mahaan by standing against those men who dared touch other women... Women are not anyones property. NO means NO...

how many times if any incident happens we go out and check that oh what might b the backstory of the one involved...


i dont make post here that so much negativity, we want to leave, let the story unfold... for once people can come out of their love for the show and can unanimously request CV or any other medium to spread positive message and not demean women... or set an example u can stoop down to any low and then go for redemption...

I have flowing tears and i m glad i m still in touch with the gal i mentioned as she works at my place as my maid... and i make sure that today her son and daughter are in good school...


so people loving ur show character is all good... and yes writers r not bound to present things on moral grounds, but we the audience instead of understanding the situation of character, can expect./request/demand CV to show one thing (which this our precious country desparatey needs) is to stand up and protect the women which on the first place was an integral qualilty of the very loved SAMEER MAHESHWARI

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Oh! Dear..

This is a really v v traumatic event that u witnessed and the bitter heartbreaking response u got to it would linger in ur mind and nag u forever ...

I really apologize for my yesterday's premature post which I answered without reading the context on ur thread...

bt I had realized then that to voice it so strongly there had to b a v strong reason..

Hence I came back and replied in ur support, hope u had read that..

and that actually gave me an idea as to ask the ppl here with such experiences as what needs to b done practically to prevent such situations from happening...

and came up with this thread..

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4977038

I have two things to say to you..

1. I will not say I can feel ur pain. Coz I wont ever understand the trauma u went through, but the thing most of us ignore is the counselling/help tht we so much require after witnessing such a level of traumatic event.

I would request you to seek some professional help to bring urself out of these horrendous memories.. I hope u understand the devastating longterm effects such events can have on ur mind and health.

2. I am an emotional person but I m practical as well. When I face with a problem, I go through the whole gamut of emotions bt in the end I always think what can b done "practically" in this matter.

And I am one who believes in doing real tangible stuff at ground level. I don't think making CVs the flag bearer of such change is gonna impact the society much.. it will only bring awareness (and we are already way past that stage to b honest) but not the real change that we seek. Hence, the thread.

I hope it helps and ppl join to do some "real" work on ground at their level best instead of wasting time in signing online petitions that they thmslvs forget after a while.

To bring a real change, we need to be on ground, doing some serious things unitedly for the ppl to really understand the issue.

Take care dear.

Please do take my advice of help.
Edited by violette - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Dhruvi !
My dear!
When things are negative on screen then how can you spread negativity? And what's this 'Our Sameer'? A boy who does wrong and the girl who suffers ..both are someone's 'OUR'..

I am not a bit okay with the eve teasing of girls scene...I even skipped yday's epi..

In our society boys always have a chance and a girl? No chance or one chance with much difficulty.

And no way I am going to defend the characterization of this Sameer..

He has stooped enough low that a redemption track has to be notch higher to make us convinced of the change and growth.

The pain,the nightmares,the constant bad dreams,the numbness...hell it is..
The fevers that follow which is more of mental than physical..The constant fears and shivers...And worst is not a soul to hear and rescue...

Life changes in a moment and the innocence is crushed not to be revived again.No body can understand that who has not been through this..the most fortunate ones they are..

I can't say anything more...This Sameer is not the one I derived my musings and symbolisms from..

Dhruvi..Thanks for making the post.And please stay with us and not leave.😳

With love-
Minu.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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No, sweetie you are not spreading negativity here. Thanks for sharing an incident like this with us.🤗

I so agree with you. I have faced it so many times. Bus me, train me, road pe tuition pe, khain koi jagah aisi nahi hai jo safe hai. You know the first time it happened with me, I was so small I couldn't even comprehend what was happening but I knew something wrong was being done to me still I couldn't figure out what it is. I still have that memory and whenever someone touches me even accidently, it sends chills down my spine.


This is a very big thing. We people are not saying sameer can not fall in bad company. Obviously he can. Smoking, drinking, I have seen boys doing everything. Even reading those magazines is not uncommon. But eve teasing is something which can not classify as a mere flaw in a character. If they wanted to show sameer going astray they could have not touched this aspect .

We Indian girls face this everyday. We all have loved watching the process of Sameer maturing; I have lived this entire process with him. Frankly he made me believe in love again.
And when a character like this supports eve teasing by being mum and mum again, it hurt me. It brought back all the bad memories I had. I said this on another thread too, I have been through the exact situation. Nobody can even imagine what pain a girl goes through when she discovers her boyfriend has been involved in eve teasing all this while. I have lived that pain.


I loved Sameer but I won't be able to connect to him anymore. Damage is already done. No redemption track can make me feel that connect to samaina's love again.

And please guys we all have loved sameer always. But we can not support him on something like this.

P.S.: You helped your maid and even made sure that her children are getting good education. You are an inspiration Dhruvi. I am so proud of you:)


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Friend it is disturbing & i know that.I have faced a near molestation experience when i was about 13 years .Still cant forget that incident & the the feeling of that.Thats why i avoided the show completely from 2 days.Sameer character was flawed but chasing of girls with group of Mawalis is not flaw.It is plain outright bad character.Whatever it is i am stopping to watch the show now.I can accept smoking drinking also those magazines.Thats normal at that age may be but I dint expected Sameer character to be with group who have no respect for girls.Also however strong love is of Naina , as a girl i would never trust a guy like Sameeer now specially .He may be lonely but what happened to his inner voice.The butchering of Sameer is so severe that if Naina forgives him than her character will also be buthcherd. Remember she was shown very strict on thise norms.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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No one should go through this kind of molestation and you at a young age showed such braveness is worth the applause...You not only saved that maid/child's life but also took a stand against the wrong. You are also giving the maid's child a bright future. 👏
In this whole mawali track, I can tolerate everything but Sameer being the part of the eve teasing gang is just pinching me too hard and he knows it's very wrong. It's not like that mawali gang is his best friends that it's hard for him to leave them.

Sameer drinking, smoking, fighting is fine by me as he used to do it before also and it's an individual choice.

Please, I am not judging the track and I have full faith on the CVs as they have always given us best and I hope they give us the best in the future.
As a loyal viewer, I will stand by my show but I am just stating my displeasure over the eve-teasing as it's a very sensitive topic.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hugs to you dhruvi... First of all i salute your braveness.
What you have witnessed is horrifying and i can understand the trauma... I remember once, my friends told me that while on their way to school a man showed his genitals to them... They got terrified and ran away... They both were disgusted to the core. Now these kind of things are a common scenario in our country.

Day to day we get to hear about something or the other happening with women... As i said before, most of us have been subjected to some kind of abuse or eve teasing as women... And i'm nt ashamed to say that me too.. Be it bus, train, road, or anywhere... I've felt disgusted many times hearing lewd remarks from men on my body... I know how it feels when u r touched without ur permission... Its luke a nightmare and can't be forgotten.

Eve teasing is not a small thing to take it lightly... We simply can't ignore it like other mistakes... Its a big thing... I know cvs won't be able to do justice to such heavy themes... Bt at least they could have refrained from showing eve teasing.. Could have conveniently avoided this part and show him doing alk the other things. Or as u said they could have taken some creative liberty and showed sam standing up to eve teasing.

Everything else can be forgiven... Smoking, drinking, playing cards, po*n magazines... Bt eve teasing cant be taken lightly... It will be an insult to all those women who had to go through this atleast once in their lives.

It pains me to see a character so well developed stooping so low... He had 1000 faults in the past too... Bt he did respect women... That one quality made him special... The sameer who rejected kamya's advances, he literally escaped from her saying he loves someone else... The same sameer who was uncomfortable kissing swati's hand even for a play... It hurts to see him hangingnout with eve teasing gang even if he doesn't do it himself.

Ps,. Thanks for sharing ur experience with us dhruvi.. Happy to know that your made is welk and fine.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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totally salute ur braveness 👏 but there may be so many who did not have a saviour 😭
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Eve teasing is NEVER OK
Even if whn done by loving Sameer.Being a fav dosent mean we shld justify his stupid n wrong actions.
He did wrong...period.
Loneliness dosent justify crime ! So ppl defending him get a life !
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: PrincessLeah

Eve teasing is NEVER OK

Even if whn done by loving Sameer.Being a fav dosent mean we shld justify his stupid n wrong actions.
He did wrong...period.
Loneliness dosent justify crime ! So ppl defending him get a life !

Agree & mind it he knows it is wrong.All are saying that he dont have a guide but i dont think so.He knows what is right & wrong & also he has been taught values by Nanu.Eve teasing & disrespect shown to innocent girls by his so called friends cant be justified.We tend to make friends who are like us.He shd not be comfortable with those boys at all.All other like smoking drinking & magazines is still Ok.

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