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Originally posted by: eclipse123
People calls others blind fans if someone said something which they think is right.Its ok to be put their view because everyone have view but calling someone blind...anyways coming to the topic if ishita had took a decision by brainewashing roshni to not give the baby to bhallas what will be the response by some people... the same she is the most selfish women who is acting as possessive for a women like roshni who want that child for herself...she doesnt love or care for raman she respect mani and she cares for roshni so she did all that etc.I dont find any wrong in what happened in court?She was wrong in taking care of roshni for sure and avoiding aliya...but can i ask one question did this aliya stand for ishita when everyone left ishita after afi died or when raman told ishita to leave his house?array if no one can stand with her then what she does in her life is her decision not anyones she cant always live for others.As an individual what ishita did was wrong so she want to get pinishment let her get that no one have problem.
But what she can do in roshnis decision like she said she did took that house happiness raman happiness now that family want this child and that family is saying this will make them happy...so if she said no to roshnis decision what will happen...that women will went away from everyone with the baby.So she want to think about mani and his daughter not about her husnand and her son isn't?..wowww then she should surely called to be a jagatmata.Aliya may be her daughter but like once ishita said her own children comes the first priority that is her and ramans children.And she did took decision for other and she &her husband lost her son and now what?let her snatch the last happiness too isn't?.Is that mani named person was not there in court?didnt he hear what was roshnis decision...what could be his decision if he was in ishitas shoes?...if he can be selfish for his daughter then can't ishita for her son?...what people want she to be think about her family and be a selfish or jagatmata...now looks like whatever she does is a problem.Ofcourse her taking law in her hand & killing adi ,her neglecting aliya and standing with roshni everything is wrong no one want to stand for that ishita.But im speaking about yesterdays episode mainly court scene and manis scene only.If aliya was living in bhalla house forcefully by bhallas and then if ishita took a decision like this then atleast ishita could be said wrong because at that time there comes a victim named aliya the girl who was like her daughter and other side also a victim who is her sons child.But then she should have selected aliya for not giving her more pain.If in that circumstance she would have selected adis child then its wrong from her side.But its not the case its not like someone is forcefully make her live in that circus compony.Why can't that women leave that house...what left in that house for her...if she herself took decision to live there & to happily invite her sautan roshni for her silly revenge then why others want to help her?If manis daughter is ok with it then why ishita will say no...cant mani can make his daughter understand ...and if manis daughter have no problem then what is his problem...its not like aliya is abala nari...if she cant sympathise or stand for herself then what can others do?
Originally posted by: priyanka_08
Leave it dear... No use...I don't know wat we have done to b called blind fans, blind bhakts, double faced etc...Aren't we also d ones who criticise even d smallest mistake dat IshRa do? Just bcoz our opinions don't match wid theirs we r called names... their opinions r welcome...but plz refrain from name calling...
Originally posted by: abhilasha_dream
Its a big post, but I wanted to put forth Mani's point after seeing everybody bad-mouthing him on questioning and blaming Ishita . So here is their journey :
Mani and Ishita's friendshipMani was introduced to us as Ishita's childhood friend basically Chaddi friend who had feelings for Ishita.But knowing that Ishita did not love him and had feelings for Subbu first and then Raman, he had backed out gracefully.Mani had never crossed his limits of friendship except once where he confronted Raman and questioned on his husband skills, but the time was also crucial, he saw his most dear friend, the love of his life lying on the death bed and he bursted all his anger on the person who thought should have taken responsibility of Ishita being her husband but failed terribly. All his pumped up feelings came out in that frustration, other than that he had never crossed his line.The other discussions which Ishita and he had in their personal time about Raman and advicing Ishita to leave Raman after seeing Raman's atrocities cannot be termed wrong. He as a friend and being her well wisher was giving her his honest opinion and advicing her to make her life better. It was Ishita's duty to stop Mani from making any assumptions and speaking about her husband badly, which she did and after that he never did question on her relationship.In fact when Raman was leaving for Singapore, entrusting him to take care of Ishita, he backed out and asked him to look after his own wife. By that time he had learnt of deep feelings of Ishita about Raman and encouraged her to confess her feelings to Raman like a true friend.Mani came back in her life only when she was trying to commit suicide and he lost his legs trying to save her. Ishita then decided to stay with him and take care of him due to her own guilt. He never did force her. It was Ishita's decision to do the death drama for her family , even then Mani had asked her to contact her family which she denied and he respected the decision as after all it was her life - her family. In fact he slyly tried sending Ishita away to India for the ad with Ruhaan so that atleast once she sees her family.When Ishita came face to face with Raman, he once again gracefully backed out without even once expressing his feelings to her. He also helped Ishita in getting Raman by marrying Shagun and also helping her in every possible way in getting her married to Ishita. He had also talked with Pihu and had always said positive things about Ishita to her to bridge the gap between the mother daughter duo.During custody case, in court , he was angry with Ishita and hence decided to go against Ishita. But was he wrong NO., in fact if we look at it from the other side, he indirectly once again helped Ishita with this decision. Pihu hated Ishita and had also become far from Raman due to this. If IshRa would have won the case, Pihu could have taken an action which could have proved fatal , but by taking this decision he helped a child reach the place where she wanted to and be happy. It was not an entirely bad decision because by that time it was not proven that Shagun was a bad influence on Pihu.Ishita did not deserve the child just on the basis of being biological mother , Shagun was Pihu's mother too and she deserved a fairly equal chance and even after Pihu came to his house, he did not brainwash her to take his revenge, he only spoke nice things to her about Ishita. So how did he go wrong there.He was against Aaliyah and Adi's relationship and was at logger heads with Raman, but he never did disrespect Ishita. Although Ishita did lots of tamashas with Aaliyah like coming over to Mani's place and creating drama in front of the would be groom of Aaliyah, he was still respectful and still gave her rights of being Aaliyah's mother.But in order to get Pihu back in her life, Ishita had no qualms breaking Mani's marriage by planting Vidyut. He still forgave her and kept supporting her in every decision of her life.Then came Nidhi and her manipulating Mani for her benefit. During this drama also, he only manipulated Ishita in not allowing her to permit Raman from meeting kids, other than that he did not do anything. He never tried brain-washing Ishita against her husband or encouraging her to take a divorce from Raman. Here also if we look , it was Ishita who came down to stay in his house.Other than the above 2 incidents ,which was not completely wrong also, Mani has stood like a rock beside Ishita and respected Ishita and gave her status of Aaliyah's mother and respected all her decisions regarding his and Aaliyah's life.Even when Ishita's own parents turned their face from her, he did not. He had told her his wish very clearly before putting in his money, so :- - How did he become wrong here when he questioned her ?- - How did he become a villain if he tried helping his daughter through her and not by hiding but telling it on her face what he wanted ?- - How did he become wrong if he stripped her of the status from being Aaliyah's mother, after seeing that she was not at all concerned about his daughter's pains ?
Originally posted by: abhilasha_dream
Its a big post, but I wanted to put forth Mani's point after seeing everybody bad-mouthing him on questioning and blaming Ishita . So here is their journey :
Mani and Ishita's friendshipMani was introduced to us as Ishita's childhood friend basically Chaddi friend who had feelings for Ishita.But knowing that Ishita did not love him and had feelings for Subbu first and then Raman, he had backed out gracefully.Mani had never crossed his limits of friendship except once where he confronted Raman and questioned on his husband skills, but the time was also crucial, he saw his most dear friend, the love of his life lying on the death bed and he bursted all his anger on the person who thought should have taken responsibility of Ishita being her husband but failed terribly. All his pumped up feelings came out in that frustration, other than that he had never crossed his line.The other discussions which Ishita and he had in their personal time about Raman and advicing Ishita to leave Raman after seeing Raman's atrocities cannot be termed wrong. He as a friend and being her well wisher was giving her his honest opinion and advicing her to make her life better. It was Ishita's duty to stop Mani from making any assumptions and speaking about her husband badly, which she did and after that he never did question on her relationship.In fact when Raman was leaving for Singapore, entrusting him to take care of Ishita, he backed out and asked him to look after his own wife. By that time he had learnt of deep feelings of Ishita about Raman and encouraged her to confess her feelings to Raman like a true friend.Mani came back in her life only when she was trying to commit suicide and he lost his legs trying to save her. Ishita then decided to stay with him and take care of him due to her own guilt. He never did force her. It was Ishita's decision to do the death drama for her family , even then Mani had asked her to contact her family which she denied and he respected the decision as after all it was her life - her family. In fact he slyly tried sending Ishita away to India for the ad with Ruhaan so that atleast once she sees her family.When Ishita came face to face with Raman, he once again gracefully backed out without even once expressing his feelings to her. He also helped Ishita in getting Raman by marrying Shagun and also helping her in every possible way in getting her married to Ishita. He had also talked with Pihu and had always said positive things about Ishita to her to bridge the gap between the mother daughter duo.During custody case, in court , he was angry with Ishita and hence decided to go against Ishita. But was he wrong NO., in fact if we look at it from the other side, he indirectly once again helped Ishita with this decision. Pihu hated Ishita and had also become far from Raman due to this. If IshRa would have won the case, Pihu could have taken an action which could have proved fatal , but by taking this decision he helped a child reach the place where she wanted to and be happy. It was not an entirely bad decision because by that time it was not proven that Shagun was a bad influence on Pihu.Ishita did not deserve the child just on the basis of being biological mother , Shagun was Pihu's mother too and she deserved a fairly equal chance and even after Pihu came to his house, he did not brainwash her to take his revenge, he only spoke nice things to her about Ishita. So how did he go wrong there.He was against Aaliyah and Adi's relationship and was at logger heads with Raman, but he never did disrespect Ishita. Although Ishita did lots of tamashas with Aaliyah like coming over to Mani's place and creating drama in front of the would be groom of Aaliyah, he was still respectful and still gave her rights of being Aaliyah's mother.But in order to get Pihu back in her life, Ishita had no qualms breaking Mani's marriage by planting Vidyut. He still forgave her and kept supporting her in every decision of her life.Then came Nidhi and her manipulating Mani for her benefit. During this drama also, he only manipulated Ishita in not allowing her to permit Raman from meeting kids, other than that he did not do anything. He never tried brain-washing Ishita against her husband or encouraging her to take a divorce from Raman. Here also if we look , it was Ishita who came down to stay in his house.Other than the above 2 incidents ,which was not completely wrong also, Mani has stood like a rock beside Ishita and respected Ishita and gave her status of Aaliyah's mother and respected all her decisions regarding his and Aaliyah's life.Even when Ishita's own parents turned their face from her, he did not. He had told her his wish very clearly before putting in his money, so :- - How did he become wrong here when he questioned her ?- - How did he become a villain if he tried helping his daughter through her and not by hiding but telling it on her face what he wanted ?- - How did he become wrong if he stripped her of the status from being Aaliyah's mother, after seeing that she was not at all concerned about his daughter's pains ?