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Originally posted by: eclipse123
Agree with u Priya. But i wasn't trying to tell that ishita did right by helping ashok or staying back there but only said this is the ishita we know after sometime of her marriage. Of course the ishita we saw from the budapest is a women who only want her husband & daughter's happiness. And we know ashok was nt there from so many days may be because of that actor's marriage but in onscreen he was not there & from yesterday's ishita- ashok phone call it's clear he didn't know about shanoo & all too...that's means she is not updating her whereabouts to ashok ...so she is not taking his help always or she tried to see him but yesterday she did went when the servant called her & said he is not well & they give a excuse his cold want to fall down before morning because morning his chemo want to start so thereby giving an excuse of ishita's stay...sure ishita can put a nurse there to take care of him she is not at all needed ...but what can we do with taklu's nastic thinkingđ„± so i did see as a scene of Dr Ishita... like ishita did attend many patients in the night too many times earlier(true she didn't stay anywhere before as a DR too(may be)but i'm talking about her mind set...i'm telling u i was not at all happy by writing this lame excuseđ because i know she is wrong but only try to think in her pov). I didn't try to disect that particular scene or thought not to do till they go overboard by ish-ok to keep my sanity & i fully agree ishita doesn't need there but i know this too this is the same cvs who gave dialogues like humari pati,mera 2 bewi etc for their delight...so why to make our bp high by thinking that lameless scene, at least we can think as this is the ishita we know,it's not the first time or a surprise that she do so much for her enemiesđ„±đ„±.And i agree ishita was the one who take shagun to house/their life first time & raman did tried to oppose her first & then when he saw she have no problem then he too neglect that fact. But like u said the ishita, raman married or can the ishita till amma's accident was the real ishita or the real women but when she take shagun to their bedroom or after taking from dustbin scene only ishita's character downfall started,she just not only compromise with shagun but she did compromise with her marital status too for adi ...she did that. Many uncountable things that no wife will do for anyone ...if that is for our own children toođ„±. But she become the bold ishita once again when she got to know shagun is trying to take her place at that time, but it can't neglect the factor that she did many useless things before that in the name of kii kaliya. That was not real ishita. But but the starting of this sacrifice devi get birth from the time of amma's accident where she saw what children's mean to raman what was shagun in his life once & the best part she started to fall for raman. And did all stupid things for only one person that's raman. From that time it was for raman it was not for ruhi,adi,shagun or anyone it was her way to get a place n ramans life. I'm not telling she did right,i truly hated many things,now too when i think my blood boils but i said what i understand about that character formation.If u remember there was a scene some months back where ishra were coming back from PS after raman get bail for man's murder.In front of media ishita put herself in danger for protecting knowing that raman scold her & she asked do u want a different ishita but there he didn't said yes but he smiled & hugged her. There too she got motivation that yes all will love her if she did sacrifices.But at the same time raman didn't told her anything because he knows she will not change so he discard that conversation & tried to spent time with her...he told her many time don't involve in others matter but the thing is at the end all want her involvement like rinki's marriage,where she didn't do anything nor involved but the blame was in her head. So.it's meaningless to discuss her sacrifice devi form because that is ishita all want .And till now i'm happy because i did know from the start of budapest tract that this ishita that thinks about only rapi will not stay for more time because it's not her real character & also then the serial would end because there will be only 3 characters remain divanru others can quitđ. But i'm very much happily surprised that this ishita is here till now .Till now her main concentration is on rapi itself,it's true she did divert sometime like for aliya's,,mihika,ashok matter once or twice.But otherwise she is in her character who is doing all the things for rapi.And Priya, where u quoted my text in red. The meaning u take from that sentence is not what i mean.I did say the difference in two characters only that raman is man who thinks about his family members first like a normal person or like all of us but ishita is a character who thinks all others too that's why raman calls her jagatmata & also like u said she invites all the problem. And she invited many problems too because of that. And i was not telling raman did wrong by being selfish & being first think about his family because it is right thing to do by any normal person.I only tried to say how ishita's character is mold like that by cvs from earlier itself. And like u said we can't find any women like ishita in real world đ„±.And about simmi-ishita yesterday scene i was happy with that scene after i got that stupid scene before that day where she pushed pihu to a women like simmi. I started to dislike her for that scene but about yesterday i was happy because the dialogue looked right to me...because she was right... she wish to help simmi but she will not because she did harm her family & gave raman medicine. For me that was a mixed of selfless & selfish ishita... who was right. And not only ishita if i was in her place i too can't forget the thing because of my daughter a child died or a mother lost her daughter but at the same time i will not forgive/forget the women who tried to destroy my family & tried to kill my husband that was what ishita did say yesterday. But for the scene b/w simmi -pihu... i will say cvs started their ugly route of simmi's redemption through ishita the jagatmata...i didn't like it a bitđ„±At the end i was not trying to say ishita did right yesterday by any of her deeds but told that character is like that from earlier & of course it was different & likable by us character in budapest but i/we had known that ishita will not stay more timen like the budapest ishita...aray i thought that ishita will disappear after she came to India but thank God she i there still now. I'm being happy without desect each scene till she didn't go overboard or she become a fully fledged sacrifice,selfless devi that's it.And at last i agree with what your each line that is the reality truly.But here i only wrote what i got understand as a charter as ishita & how i take it. And once again i'm telling your each line was true like ishita invite many problem to their life,or she is the first one who take shagun home,or being selfish is good etc.But i only tried to gave a what i understand from ishita's character & the current scenario. But i'm no way telling she is right or what she is doing right or i'm happy with what is going now.
Originally posted by: zohakhan7
@Pooja don't feel offended by my reply ..it was not about ur opinion ..I haven't even read urs đ
Please don't stop writing due to my opinionIt's strictly my opinion n i respect ur opinion too đ
Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r
Pooja, none of us are right or wrong here. It is just sharing of views and discussing it. You have reasons for your views and I have mine. We just discuss it out when we share the same thoughts or have a different opinion. That in no way, means condemning or objecting to your opinion or mandating that we have to agree with each other. No way I was holding you as right or wrong or for that matters, even the characters as right or wrong. Just that I had a different take to few points and wrote it.@red - No, Ashok knows she is in shanno disguise. Remember Ishita told shagun she has spoken to Ashok and made sure he arranged things in such a way that his travel agent would make sure to project a picture like Ishita-Ashok are out of country, while she plays shanno here. Ashok was worried that Ishita has to be alerted since Raman spotted him. So I don't think Ashok is unaware of her plan. She even told Ashok yesterday about her disguise and how she managed the whole situation with the help of his help and gardener, when his help noticed Raman's car behind her auto. He definitely knows.@majenta - I did not dissect the scene too. If I feel weird ¬ agreeable with a scene, I don't dissect it too much and only question the need of such a scene, just like I did in my review today and the other day, for that massage sceneđ. I stop at the point of expressing my displeasure. IshRa have grown beyond arguing who is right or wrong, but yes I definitely do make it a point to express my disappointment and displeasure if their actions are unconvincing& unacceptable and that is why I said her staying back was not at all needed in any sense, even if it is, as a doctor, because just then a doctor had attended toođ and he is fast asleep, the rest can be done by his help. Well, you yourself said you are just giving a excuseđ . So everything ends there and I understood your actual take đđ. CoolđđŒ. Yes that is how we have to convince ourselves with some random justifications, if IshRa's actions are strange and unacceptable.@blue - May be you are right, but definitely I don't buy in and accept the "all will love me only if I sacrifice" justification given for all her unnecessary acts, any day. Sorry. đ. That only insults her character even more, because that would mean, she does this with an expectation of love in return and she is actually not that kind of person, who expects or does things for people, expecting things in return. It is her innate nature to be forgiving and helping others beyond her capacity, but it is equally being balanced on the negative side by her over interference and the problems for her own people arising because of that. She does not know her limits and where she has to step back. If her helping nature affects only her, it is not a problem, but if it affects others in her own family, then there is no use doing that help or going that extra mile. So I neither relate it to expecting love in return for her sacrifice nor relate it to her infertility. Infact she is no more infertile. She was able to conceive with treatments on her own and then her eggs were used for surrogacy too. So the excuse that is given all the time, about her infertility for all her unreasonable acts no longer is valid or makes sense, atleast to me.True, her scene with Simmi was decent yesterday because of her mono and that is precisely what I mentioned too in my review. But again, after her reaction to Simmi hugging Pihu and being emotional yesterday, if Simmi shows the slightest of remorse, I'm afraid Ishita might actually forgive her and ask others to forgive her, or worse involve Simmi in her plan too. We never know.đđ. Let us see.