IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CHOICES...9/21/17 - Page 2

Originally posted by: sumita_ghosh

Viji🤗

this serial has really tested my sense of right and wrong coz of the vast areas of grey that the cvs have created which is the most difficult part to deal with ..and this is where Ruhi track falls into ..we can go on and on about it without any conclusions ..

Raman is both Right and Wrong at the same time

His Concern -Bang on like any father

His anger and going Ballistic-Wrong ..yesterday he said children will always remain children for the parents absolutely Right ..but he must remember the treatment meted out to them when they are say ten years old is very diffierent from how they should be treated when they are 15..16..17..18..19 the most destructive and scary phase for the parents ..

Now Ishita has suddenly become an enigma as a mother ..her words ..her actions are ambiguous ..she wants to confide in Ruhi about nikhils truth..now why she wants to do that iam not able to understand thats where ishus behaviour has disappointed me she did not support her statements with definite conclusive reasoning..which is strange coz we have always got to hear her ..but in this track as Ruhi ishimmaa she is not justifying her actions ..

but her gentle treatment at this phase with Ruhi is correct ..The parent is the ADULT here ..having a knee jerk reaction not permissible and when one parent is already doing it the other has to balance it out

Today we got Raman s PoV about why he was doing what he was .doing ..completely understandable ..but as they actions speak louder than words ..completely overshadowed his concerns

but Ishu -still didnt get her POV as a mother .. ..

her choosing Ruhi..completely ENDORSE

Ruhi is a troubled teenager ..a loose canon who has lost all sense of right and wrong on a self destructive path ..she is in such a stage that she doesnot need anyone to hurt her she will do it herself only..abandoning her at this stage is suicidal for the parents the misguided teen needs guidance big time..

and Ruhi as it is not a normal teen ..she has suffered a lot has seen a lot of abuse in this tender age ...we have to look at that fact also sympathetically..

and asking your spouse to choose is wrong in epic proportions Raman has no moral rights to ask her to choose ..hell he did that all the time ..even chose his EX over her for crying out loud...

It was very cruel of him but iam not surprised ..he has been brutally insenstive to her feelings

and taunting ishu about Ru upbringing so not done ,,agree Ishu as a mother has been lax and given in to her demands but about him...has he set an a good example ?he should ask himself this question ..do some introspection..

He Married her for Ruhi

Threw her out for Ruhi

Brought her back for Ruhi

Abused her for Ruhail

and Now again indirectly breaking his relationship for Ruhi..

He is the one setting the parameters in his relationship with his wife Ishu..and The Parameter Is RUHI

so Ruhi is the NEEV of their relationship and he has not moved on ..

Interestingly how easily he breaks his relationship with ishu without any moments hesitation and how easily he maintains his relationship with his ex without a moments hesitation

and the push god was so real...terrible ..ishu was hurt none bothered ..if it was shagun then...ishus aurat talk didnt impress me yesterday ..coz she is totally responsible for what is happening to her ..any self respecting woman would have left long long back

and Btw what was the precap for ..i guess he meant himself

to conclude both Raman and Ishita have failed as parents to nip the problem in the bud and now are fire fighting ..is it too late? ,,dont know ..and it seems he finally got to know how it feels to be rejected and not be the Chosen one

Ishu can never be a BAD MOTHER for me ...Period ..

and have to mention this Viji ..completely love the way you reply to differing view points ..calmly and respectfully ..🤗

Originally posted by: basha221

Hi viji,
Iam waiting for ur review when I saw the episode. After sharam cold storage scene today I saw YHM in tv. Just because Divan. What a performance wow I totally loved it. Then once again prove that they are phenomenal actors.
Is there any rule that RD should only act with AH and not Divan. And what stupid camera angles BD of RD is clearly visible in the scene.
Actually I have a doubt before that CV's actually read comments and use them as their dialogue's because they don't have the talent to write dialogue's today I got confirmation that they are actually using fans comments because today what ever dialogue's Ishra used are comments of fans when they about Ishra.
CV's if u really reading comments u pls use the talent actors u have just once and write a track only for them and see the trps if u didn't get trps then next time u won't complaint or ask for Ishra track pls already once from starting of YHM there is not single track about them pls it's a request.
And coming to episode I actually didn't understand ishita regarding ruhi but I want her to be stick to her decession of leaving only for children at least then raman may understand everyone what ishita feels when he choose others over ishita. But in the precap I got my answer like everytime raman gets angry and show attitude and at last one sry without any heart to heart talk and ishita says no need for sry raman.
Ohhh I forgot how can CV's gives such scenes to Ishra those are reserved for aslimaa with her blank face and non existing blouse's.

Originally posted by: Mdwst

Sumi 🤗

Sumi unless cvs give explanation from ishus side...it's tough to understand...I'm waiting for that too..though I could...but would love itbfrom them.

Sumi with teens it's always experimental...you should be very very careful with them..first is their attitude ..next they don't like authority...they want their patebts to talk to, listen to and understand and most of all trust them...if this doesn't happen..it's trouble ..

Sumi all wonderful perfect points...loved every one of them.

@ bold..yes the push..was very rough...a bit aggressive...had that women knocked her head against anything..it's a blunt trauma...thank good...that didn't happen.

Aaaha had it been shagun...she will be rushed to icu...true...here only adi was worried ...

@ orange...when I saw it for the very first time...I had a different pov...then I rewatched it a few times and then had a 360..yes parameter us ruhi..yes and he's setting it...yes he's not moved on. Yes no hesitation at all...gosh he didn't even think of pihu...

Sumi I didn't get..so I rewatched it,.i..he thinks ishu has no care and concern for him..

Awww Sumi thank you..🤗

Originally posted by: ishra_bestluv

what a brilliant episode... Brilliant acting... brillint background...

acting was just superb... top notch... the anger... the pain... the love... the emotions... expectations... brilliant...

Ishita hurt... wrong and right... her approach to ruhi may have been right but her siding was wrong... she could have pointed out the mistake and explained... but her lines to raman were bang on... 'jab bache galte karte hain toh woh tumhare hain... par acha karein toh mere' this is what reality is... this is something that happens in every other family...

her siding with ruhi completely is wrong... but her approach and thought of talking it out is brilliant... and who knows ruhi better than her... daughter is just like father... in all means... had ishita not intervened ruhi would have actually left the house after raman pushed her... thats the ego of that kid...

Raman asking ishita to choose was wrong... but i think he knew the answer very well... he even acknowledged it later... that he would have chosen the kids too had he got the chance to choose...

Ishita was dumbfounded... her old insecurities surfaced... (in my opinion they clearly did) she said 'kuch bhi nahi badla itne salon mein'... that was indicative of her pain... no matter how much she says she is out of it and forgotten it... she has not... its like a open wound... surfaces every time she is questioned... thats so real... no matter how much you try to forget and forgive... just when you are hurt by the same person again ... all your old pain surfaces...

<font color="#ff3333">And for all who think ishita does not have self respect... I disagree... when you love someone too much its not about self respect... its so much more than that... its not easy to just push that person away... its difficult and painful.. I know and totally agree that she should leave him after all that he has done to her... BUT IS IT ALL THAT SIMPLE... imo... no never.. she loves him and more than anything else she knows him .. she knows his anger his temper and his ignorance... and that he loves her... thats how relationships are... He is not that anyone whom she can just ask to fu*k off... (given that she does not even ask shagun to Fu*k of... which she SHOULD</font>)...

Raman... he was right and wrong.. his possessiveness for his daughter absolutely right... he wants to protect her... but he should not have slapped ruhi.. he needs to understand... anger is not a way to handle teenagers... they rebel... ruhi is behaving just like any bloody teenager... all she can process right now is no body trusts her... no body wants to listen to her... and thats what is making her stubborn... had for once all shown the confidence in her and trusted what she said about accidentally meeting nikhil ... she would have been better... they needed to scream on her for slapping romi (even if it was accidental) thats all... but no they choose not to believe her... and that just got things worse..

Adi... sorry but I have to say this... he was making it worse... he could have behaved more maturely... he could have silently calmed things instead of aggravating it...

Romi... he is grown vastly over time... very matured... this guy has just turn to be brilliant... he truly loves raman's kids as his.. he showed it today... he loves them a lot... he was trying to calm things down... he was holding on to the relationship not pushing it away...

<font color="#00cc66">To me it is not Ishita vs Raman... IT IS MOTHER VS A FATHER... and ishita and raman are dragged in this as husband and wife...</font>

This time its a emotional separation and not a physical one...

'<font size="4"><font color="#3333ff">toh mein humesha ke liye apne bachon ko hi chunti hoon' </font><font color="#3333ff">this is strong... and if CVs dont forget it... then this track needs to end with something impact full.. in terms of a talk.. and not just some silly shit fight.</font></font>..

OVERALL an excellent episode... after ages I think...👏👏👏applaud for the star cast for their acting

Originally posted by: Lacustris

Very well written Viji!!

not going to add any. thanks for posting.

Originally posted by: Lacustris

perfectly written Sumi!!

I am just waiting for Ishita's pov to be revealed by CVS and I strongly believe that she never encouraged nor supported Ruhi with Nikhil as everyone is believing. If i remember correctly it was Raman who even asked Ruhi to take care of Nikhil. But when the blaming time comes it's all Ishita the mother who is at fault.

Today, i am glad that Ishita had an opportunity to CHOOSE unlike she had been a choice for Raman all these years.

I totally agree with you that he never valued her as a woman or a mother or a wife. as he himself said it in the precap that what's in his mind is clearly shown by his actions. and all the talk with Ishita about love etc. is fake.

Originally posted by: Lacustris

viji and Sumi,

i just realized this. all this time when the choice was Raman's he successfully killed Ishita both as a wife and a mother and today when the choice was Ishita's the mother prevailed - mother for Adi, Ruhi and Pihu and the wife got killed - a wife who was never valued by her husband, who became a choice for him at every turn be it for Ruhi, Adi, Pihu and Shagun his ex and that wife today got killed effectively for a person that mean nothing for them ever.. that is Nikhil.

Originally posted by: zohakhan7

Wow is the only word for DivAn's acting today

What a brilliant performance by them

Truly outstanding

This show is still on air only due to these two gems who are sadly not used properly

Coming to episode

Both Ishita and Raman were right and wrong

I will start with Raman

He was superb as a protective father n Kp nailed it

He was right at his place because he can't see his daughter with a man who has such a complicate life along with that he is a divorcee with a daughter half of Ruhi's age

He was right when he blamed Ishita for the mess Ruhi is in because it was due to Ishita's encouragement n support Ruhi got this much guts to stand in front of Raman her father n answer him back rudely n not even feeling an ounce guilty of her doings.

He was right when he said that he can't see Ruhi crying n that he will die before seeig his children in problems.

He is not a hitler who controls his children neither he forces his opinions on them.We have seen in past too that he never wants to impose his decision on instead was happy for them.The way Ishita is saying dont impose ur opinions on them as ur daughter is growing up .I mean he is Ruhi's father,he has full right to take decision of her life..he just wants to protect them from any problem .

His actions ,his words,his way of dealing with the problem might not be the correct way but his perspective,his anger is absolutely correct at his place.

No Father would tolerate to see his teenage daughter in a relationship with a man who is a jobless ,have a daughter half of Ruhi's age,is a divorcee an has no source of icome and main thing Ruhi's education is still not completed.

Its not the age to get into a serious relationship.

Raman was WRONG when he pushed Ishita not DELIBERATELY but UNINTENTIONALLY and when he threw Ruhi out of the house.

This is not the way to deal with the problem ,this is not how u treat ur grown up daughter

Now Coming to Ishita she was RIGHT when she answered back Raman n said why is she blamed always when kids do some mistake ? She was bang on with her questions regarding his anger,his blaming game n now choosing btw husband n daughter n I agree that a mother will choose her kids only no matter even if they r wrong but Ishita needs to realize that in this whole mess Raman was right n she was wrong.For once she needs to accept that she can be wrong too after all she is a human .Ishita was WRONG when she tried to portrayed herself as a victim n Raman as a hitler who only knows how to impose his views on kids n who is a monster .

Both are right n wrong !!

Originally posted by: Mdwst

Hi Vijaya

Yup brilliant it was...

@ bold...this is my exact sa,e thoughts..this is what I've been saying itbover anndiver again..she may appear as if she's moving on,,but she's not...she never forgets..its always there..buried deep...and as you said it resurfaces...coz she was never healed...will never heal...yes she's been hurt by him over and over again...and another part of the reason...her inability...if that cures..if she experience motherhood in full sense ...she might heal...

@ red...omg brilliant...loved it...yes it's not that dimple...she loves him to much so deep that it's indescribable...and raman knows that...

Ishita and raman were both right and wrong and adi made it worse today...and yes ruhi is as stubborn as her dad...

@ green...👏

@ blue...hoping we that it this time ..it's a must...

Originally posted by: ishra_bestluv

Bang on.. loved your take.. absolutely right..
Ishita does not show it.. but she has not healed... will never will.. every new pain from Raman resurfaces all her old wounds...
today for the first time Raman was on the recieving end.. she choose the kids over him... he had the pain in his eyes...