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Posted: 8 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: svati12

A very good episode...👏


mix of funny n emotional scenes..
both showcased aptly...👍🏼

After so long... actually feels ages.. dat im gonna watch episode numerous tyms...😭

For raman... it ws a normal fight.. he hasnt realised or known d intensity of her hurt...

For ishita... ds tym she wont give up on his small tiny things.. she is vry vry hurt.. today her monologue kindoff spoke dat she has left for herself in disguise of kids safety...

After d dinner, he might realise dat she isnt cumin any tym sooner wid her usual tactics to manofy her.. ds tym he needs to read her hurt...

At d dinner, raman ws genuine wid his feelings... though nthin ws in dairy bt is it necessary to write ur feelings in a diary.. each n evry word ws straight from his heart.. bt ds sweet gesture of his backfired.. n she feels its jst a cover n trick to bring her back home..
At d dinner, despite his genuine attempt, she ws sad... she ws controlling her tears bt as n whn came a sentence "he vl never hurt her", she lost it n dn wat she did ws overboard... her step of showing d empty diary to sum outsider ws wrong... her step vl hurt him nw...

Problem wid both is dat dey jst throw evrythng in public in front of outsiders... Its fyn she ws hurt wid empty diary bt dat cud hv been addressed in car in private while cumin back... he has also at tyms made dere realtion issues public...Both need to get hold of it...

Nw raman vl b hurt n hopefully might realise d intensity of her hurt.. n also dat its nt a normal fight.. rather she is totally heartbroken n he needs to fix it up...

Almost entire epi ws gud...

- adi's worry.. alia's shock...
- pihu 's sadness n feeling of seperation of her papa n ishima...
- ruhi consoling n trying to cheer up upset pihu...
- appa papaji were al bout ishra...
- romi's discomfort bt dn standing by her bhabhi forgetting evrythng...
- romi's support to raman...
- romi is eventually trying to b both sides... supporting both...
- raman's cute n funny tactics to brng back his madrasan..
- raman's confidence on dere love is nyc bt nw its nt jst bout love bt more dn dat...
- raman's attempts...though childish bt were genuine...

Parts i didnt liked...👎🏼

- shagun alia scene.. unnecessary n showoff interference in bhallas family... in ishraudipi life.. in name of ruhi pihu.. her so called betis...
- amma n toshiji more concerned bout respective husbands.. no talk bout ishra.. toshiji's dialog dat siding wid ishita is ok bt dn y mr bhalla leave home for her...

Precap ws more heartbreaking.. nt an ideal couple.. not together.. telling it al to an outsider is jst unacceptable...
raman wud also b broken n its after affects wud b drunken raman n dn his desperateness to get ishita back leads to misbehaving wid her...

DIVAN nailed it... 👏
evryone ws gud today...
ds seems an ISHRA-centric track...
hopefully it wud b gud n nt made ugly...
for nw.. episode ws gud n balanced...

Seems a track wid COMEDY+EMOTIONAL+DRAMATIC...

Swati nice review... Seeing the name I thought who s this new one in town Wt 20k posts...Later understand it's u based on bold letters , prof pic n way f writing...
Liked ur old username..though no offense...this is also nice ...😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: svati12

A very good episode...👏


mix of funny n emotional scenes..
both showcased aptly...👍🏼

After so long... actually feels ages.. dat im gonna watch episode numerous tyms...😭

For raman... it ws a normal fight.. he hasnt realised or known d intensity of her hurt...

For ishita... ds tym she wont give up on his small tiny things.. she is vry vry hurt.. today her monologue kindoff spoke dat she has left for herself in disguise of kids safety...

After d dinner, he might realise dat she isnt cumin any tym sooner wid her usual tactics to manofy her.. ds tym he needs to read her hurt...

At d dinner, raman ws genuine wid his feelings... though nthin ws in dairy bt is it necessary to write ur feelings in a diary.. each n evry word ws straight from his heart.. bt ds sweet gesture of his backfired.. n she feels its jst a cover n trick to bring her back home..
At d dinner, despite his genuine attempt, she ws sad... she ws controlling her tears bt as n whn came a sentence "he vl never hurt her", she lost it n dn wat she did ws overboard... her step of showing d empty diary to sum outsider ws wrong... her step vl hurt him nw...

Problem wid both is dat dey jst throw evrythng in public in front of outsiders... Its fyn she ws hurt wid empty diary bt dat cud hv been addressed in car in private while cumin back... he has also at tyms made dere realtion issues public...Both need to get hold of it...

Nw raman vl b hurt n hopefully might realise d intensity of her hurt.. n also dat its nt a normal fight.. rather she is totally heartbroken n he needs to fix it up...

Almost entire epi ws gud...

- adi's worry.. alia's shock...
- pihu 's sadness n feeling of seperation of her papa n ishima...
- ruhi consoling n trying to cheer up upset pihu...
- appa papaji were al bout ishra...
- romi's discomfort bt dn standing by her bhabhi forgetting evrythng...
- romi's support to raman...
- romi is eventually trying to b both sides... supporting both...
- raman's cute n funny tactics to brng back his madrasan..
- raman's confidence on dere love is nyc bt nw its nt jst bout love bt more dn dat...
- raman's attempts...though childish bt were genuine...

Parts i didnt liked...👎🏼

- shagun alia scene.. unnecessary n showoff interference in bhallas family... in ishraudipi life.. in name of ruhi pihu.. her so called betis...
- amma n toshiji more concerned bout respective husbands.. no talk bout ishra.. toshiji's dialog dat siding wid ishita is ok bt dn y mr bhalla leave home for her...

Precap ws more heartbreaking.. nt an ideal couple.. not together.. telling it al to an outsider is jst unacceptable...
raman wud also b broken n its after affects wud b drunken raman n dn his desperateness to get ishita back leads to misbehaving wid her...

DIVAN nailed it... 👏
evryone ws gud today...
ds seems an ISHRA-centric track...
hopefully it wud b gud n nt made ugly...
for nw.. episode ws gud n balanced...

Seems a track wid COMEDY+EMOTIONAL+DRAMATIC...

Hi swati
Thanks for commenting
It was a mix of all emotions today
@ red...that's it...for him it's a normal gut..not to ishuta...why? He's not realized that he's really hurt her this time by his words.
@ purple...I watched that particular scene 2nd time and as you said.yes...she left under the disguise of safety ?but that's not the. Are..it's fir her...
Initially I had doubts ...after after rewTchbg it..it was confirmed...
The feelings was genuine..but bacfired..poor guy...
It will take time for her this time...both will be hurt with others action..but the minute Raman realizes it...the rest we know. She could've confronted him in the car as u said...

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I understand ishita is hurt. But is it right to project Raman wrong infront of outsider. First she did infront of their kids. Whatever issues they are having it should be discussed between them. Keeping in mind just few days back pihu was depressed and had to visit conusellor. Poor kid is sad... not understanding why are her parents not living together.

Did nt like the ishita way of realozing Raman his mistakes.

Both are wrong... one does nt has control on his anger and tongue and other has habit of hiding things from her partner and doing samaj seva. Both should realize their mistake. Its not just one sided. Not at all
Edited by ishra00 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: swa6

Swati nice review... Seeing the name I thought who s this new one in town Wt 20k posts...Later understand it's u based on bold letters , prof pic n way f writing...
Liked ur old username..though no offense...this is also nice ...😊



ya ya its me only...
new one in town...😆
bold letters.. way of writing..
i knw right... 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: Mdwst

Hi swati
Thanks for commenting
It was a mix of all emotions today
@ red...that's it...for him it's a normal gut..not to ishuta...why? He's not realized that he's really hurt her this time by his words.
@ purple...I watched that particular scene 2nd time and as you said.yes...she left under the disguise of safety ?but that's not the. Are..it's fir her...
Initially I had doubts ...after after rewTchbg it..it was confirmed...
The feelings was genuine..but bacfired..poor guy...
It will take time for her this time...both will be hurt with others action..but the minute Raman realizes it...the rest we know. She could've confronted him in the car as u said...



yup viji di...

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sumita_ghosh

Hi Viji..wonderfully written review..😊

so they showed team Ishu and team Raman in their new abode..

btw is amma staying with Toshi ?now that her household has been taken over by the Ishu camp..

Raman's flippancy is not helping the cause ...he is yet to grasp the gravity of the situation

Raman 's words were maybe genuine from the heart but to Ishu it was questionable coz if he loves her so much why does he hurt her ?why does he time and again break all his ties with her ..raaste alag is one such example ..and to me If i didnt know better that episode was a final nail in the coffin in their relationship ..the earlier ishu had got used to this but this Ishu does not want to get used to it anymore ..perfectly as an individual she has the right to voice out her feelings in the way she thinks best..
Raman has to bridge the gap between"His WORDS and His DEEDS"that is the root cause of all issues..
and there was no need for the pretend journal ..anyways if we were to take him at his face value then where was the need of the journal..we are supposed to believe that he was saying it from his heart so ..
they both know there is love between them but now they have explore the other facets like trust .understanding respect in their relationship..
Having said that l believe "Dirty Linen should not be washed in Public"
but who would tell the cvs this..

One question to the cvs
why do they think I as a viewer am interested in watching the ACP and his love angle😕
Shagun being pregnant for the fourth time ..The purpose😕

They will show every tom Dick and Harry love angles and pregnancies but nothing to do with Raman and Ishita..

and I was right Raman and Ishu's kaands are directly proportionate to Shagun's whiteness..she is very close to developing a Halo..😆

As of now I have lost all hopes of an intense angst ridden exploration of their relationship ..all I am going to get is cheap comedy..
The cvs have completely butchered the marital equations with their nonsensical and skewered line of thoughts

Both KP and DT deserve an award for being the only leads in the television who are totally responsible for not letting YHM shut shop..
so many serials shut down coz of crappy tracks and the leads of those show are not able to do anything about it
so just for them👏







Nice Review Sumi... yes the show is not shutting the shop just because of KP and DT's phenomenal acting irrespective of the crappy story line.. even when they are shown as side characters they outshine everyone with their extraordinary performance.

@bold summarizes the impact of his uncontrollable anger.
@blue Shagun developing halo😆😆 not only that she will also have wings like pari..

Raman's love may be genuine but it shouldn't be as per his convenience. love teaches you to accept ones flaws as well as merits. Why couldn't he remember his love when he was uttering all the crap and saying our paths are different even after Ruhi comes back. so, be a man and stick to it as he ended the relationship now like many times before. Everyone has a tipping point and I guess Ishita reached hers today.

him being confident and winning her back is all good if she is upset over a movie or dinner dates. here she is hurt and hurt beyond anything... winning her with empty pages of love is not going to work. until and unless he understand the effect of his words on her and the extent of the damage he did to her the healing will not be easy.

he needs to understand that "he can't keep HURTING a person and expect them to keep loving him".
What Ishita did with Raman can be summarized as "Love is giving someone the power to destroy you... but trusting them not to."
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lacustris

"you hurt me more than what I deserve because I love you more than what you deserve".

That pretty much summarizes today's episode. Again I only concentrated on Ishita and Raman and rest is all fluff.

So Raman has no idea why she left. No introspection nor realization. I am seriously doubting his ability to process anyone else's pain and or point of view other than his. Especially Ishita's. It's amazing how much he took her for granted. so until an hour ago (for us 2 episodes ago) he was spitting venom and bad mouthing her and the minute he saw Ruhi in the house he was expecting the things to become normal and as usual expecting Ishita to resume her role in the house as his wife and his kids mother as if nothing happened until the next kaand breaks and he decides to question her love for him and kids and simply tell her to get lost.

His fake tooth ache and his expectation of how she comes running to him all worried with the cockiness he was showing off made my stomach burn. so he knows how much she loves and cares for him yet when the problem comes she needs to prove it to him. Now I am beginning to wonder how will she prove that she loves him and kids? what was he expecting? does she need to do something that jeopardizes her life or like Sita Ma she needs to do "Agni Pareeksha" saying Raman this much I love you and kids. In fact she even walked on the coals to prove how much she loves him... then again it's another story. But she did prove. So how many times one has to prove? If that is the case how many times Raman proved that he really loves Ishita? not talking about how he rescued her from jail illegally, or how he romanced or how much he cried when she was in the hospital. what did he do like Ishita to prove his love? or was he ever questioned by Ishita to prove his love for her? Love is not a game and there are no winners or losers. you love someone it should be felt through how you treat them.

And his oneliners how she eats half of Delhi's ration was really done in a very poor taste and very callous. really? she is also earning and she really doesn't need his money to feed herself. And the rs. 95 that she charged as the bill for his tooth ache she can't really buy idlis... not funny CVS...

Again Ishita's soliloquy proved her hurt beyond anything. And I am beginning to doubt that CVS have no intention to address the emotional turmoil that she is going through.

Raman coming to ask her for dinner, once again he proved that he is not really feeling due to his words she left the house but thinking that it was over a missed movie or dinner date she got upset and moved to her maika's house and he will win her back with his romance. really? his flat out telling her that he didn't come there to take her home proves that he is just taking it so lightly. his soliloquy about how he is not understanding why she is upset just baffled me. once again proves that he can only understand his pain and no one else's.

Their dinner date with Abishek proved as another disaster. The problem here is until Raman understands the level of hurt he inflicted on Ishita he can never address it without coming across as an insensitive jerk. The dinner date is too soon... she is still raw with her emotions and Ishita is one person who hides her emotions well and hardly cries. But the amount of tears she shed on these accusations of his is too much to ignore. The talk about love and how that is not enough says it all. and his reading from empty pages and making it all about him - "how much he loves her and how he will be lost without her and how he is happy to be with her" all about him... when the new girl says how he never hurts her breaks the dam for her and the way she breaks how their love or marriage is what it seems all romance and rosy. waiting for tomorrow to see if Raman even got the hint of her pain.

The other part of the story is if the shoe fits... how both Mrs. Bhalla and Mrs. Iyer were complaining about how their husbands didn't care when they were leaving. Made me have a sardonic smile. When it comes to married life these both women have it all... love, respect and never had to be questioned about their motherhood nor never have to be asked to prove their love for their husbands and kids yet the one time their husbands stand against them they are angry and upset. What will make these women introspect for just one minute what Ishita might have felt or lived through all the insults Raman throws at her time to time? there is love but it's always conditional and zero respect and zero tolerance and if anything that goes wrong with any of the kids her motherhood is constantly questioned and not only that what follows is even worst... throw her out of the kids life saying you are not their mother and you have no right to stay in this house.

How many times Raman repeated this humiliation to Ishita not in the privacy of their room but in public, but no one even stopped or questioned why? but suddenly they are upset that their husbands didn't stop them. in fact neither Bhallaji nor Appa asked them to leave... Mrs. Iyer she walked out because she is angry that her husband supported her daughter over her ill treatment by her husband who simply threw her out. Mrs. Bhalla didn't think what Raman did is wrong in throwing his wife out but angry that her husband supported the bahu for the ill treatment by their son.

who would want enemies if you have a family like this. Why only Ishita's faults are making to look big and all are calling her a home breaker? Yet no one is seeing what Raman did and said to her? just because he is angry and says these things it's ok? just because Ishita took it in all the insults all the time everyone expects her to take it all lying down? not even once people stop to think what's fair? I know i will be disappointed with the outcome of this track as i have no hopes.. it's better to take one episode at a time.

Viji, nice review.. and your quesiton of is Love Enough? if love encompasses the trust, respect, honest, acceptance of each others flaws, affection then yes.. else No.. especially the love like Raman's which is conditional... BIG NO..


Lovely review Raji...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Raji
Wonderful analysis..I haven't watched the episode but could understand all the nuances from your post..
Yes he not understood at all ..loved the ironical touch in toshi and Amma convo
And his one liners reeks of insensitivity..
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Posted: 8 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: zindagi4pyaar

Yaar u give an awsum review... Widout ny biasness...

D one scene which touched me was wen raman was reading d diary n aftr finishing it ishita jst truned her face 2 wipe her tears... Dat scene was so real... I mean jab koi aise apne partner ke bare mai bolta hai d partner cant even control d emotions n d emotions came out as tears 4rm d eyes... Dat scene was real...


N nw d ones which is hated..

4rm 2days epi its clear dat raman is taking ishita 4 granted... He is 200%sure dat ishita uske bina sry bole he uske pass aa jayege...

He is still not ready 2 accept dat he is wrong...

N i sry i knw mentioning ppl out here is against d rules if dis forum.. But m really vry much disappointed by ppl out here...

Means seriously dey are finding all sorts of faults in ishitas behavior... Dat c is taunting raman infort of n outsider, coz of her dis action c is making raman away 4rm children, c is saying dat dis environment is not ryt 4 der kids n all... N infact ppl out here are questioning dat wen ishita did all d kands did c ever thought abt her childern so now hw can c give dis kind of lectures 2 raman...


Toh guyzzz refresh ur memories... Bhoot track if u remember raman askd ishita 2 stay away 4rm ruhi till c gets better, den aftr leap wen pihu was abt 2 leave wid shagun ishita jst 4 d betterment of her daughter left bhalla house, den wen pihi was admitted i hospital n pihu askd her 2 stay away 4rm her family ishita agreed 2 dat also...

But still ppl are telling dat c is wrong...


N abt taunting... Raman alwayz taunt her abt her motherhood infront of shagun his 1st wife...wen he knws dat dis issue is vry much hurtful 4 ishita.. But still he have nvr mussed a chance 2 taunt her infront of his family his ex wife his children... Tab toh log kuch bolte nahi...

But aaj ishita ne usko outsider ke samne taunt kiya toh p are hw can c do dat... C is ao wrong n all...

Seriuosly... Dis is so dam bad

Hi
Thank you for commenting..
And thank you for the compliment...
@ bold...oh that scene was touching...and he put his arms around her and that pat...he knew she was touched ...only these 2 can improvise those nuances.

PLEASE FOLLOW RULES MENTIONED BY DT...
Thank you
Edited by Mdwst - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#30
Nice review...
Overall a lite heated episode after ages...
I dint like the way ishita over reacted in restaurant...
Poor raman 😭
Edited by divan19 - 8 years ago

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