IS LOVE ENOUGH?..2/3/17 - Page 4

Originally posted by: swa6

This is not abt episode Viji ... Actually this is something that hit me today or yesterday...So want to share ...U might have got it already😉

So it happend like that...

IshRa were behaving as ideal couple so far since the beginning of chuha's track...They didn't hide anything from each other...even though they fought few times, Sooner or later they travelled on same gadi...Same page..Mutual understanding!!(true since this track beginning to just before that ngt)

But what happened...

Poor fans got over dosage f rat romance n got sick of it, getting afraid we may get rat marriage n kids too...

Hence tried rat repellent...remote😉

Trp down in a way that can bounce back wt only ishra Centric yrack😉😆

So we need ishra Centric track ...From where?!!!! They already fell in love n had kid too😛

So what else s remained...left open..?

Their issues of leap...

So...They have to use it..No choice...

But how can they create the same situation...

It can be created only by Ishitha's fault..! Bcz if Raman does it, ishu forgives him as usual..She does not speak nonsense in anger...😆 that's out f character...

Raman can will n has to speak it to bring back their issues (actually our issues Wt them)..

Formula is start Wt super hot romance so that ppl will bear later nonsense... Anesthesia before operation😉

Let ishu do some mistake

Let raman speak all the crap..

Instead f giving in..Crying forgetting n forgiving...Let ishu speak for herself...

Sorry if Raman understands her pain in one lecture n says sorry to her, asked her to stay back so that he doesn't speak harshly from now on...What's next..Scene over..Cinema over...Let's go home😉

Where could be ishra Centric track then..

So Raman behaves like alien who doesn't understand human emotions...😆

Then he ll understand later..By the time, He ll make things even worst...

As Raji said Ruhi-ke-liye game ended finally after 10years...

Let them get separated so that we can/they can fall in love again...

Chalo rats nonsense tho khatham hua..For now😛

Viji now I m talking based on gulabo...

How cute n exciting it would be if Raman comes as Gulabo, n stays wt Ishitha n they get friends...Some.funny moments, some emotional...Him getting know ishu's side f story...Then healing her ... Win her back into his life as HIS WIFE/ASHIQUE...Rather than Ruhi mother pihu mother...Or someone else's something...

Till now ishra r first parents n then only couple...But of it executed correctly...(postleap) Ishra will be rediscovered as complete couple...Just like yhm1...

I m really really expecting this n looking forward for the same...

Originally posted by: sumita_ghosh

@Raji

Wonderful analysis..I haven't watched the episode but could understand all the nuances from your post..

Yes he not understood at all ..loved the ironical touch in toshi and Amma convo

And his one liners reeks of insensitivity..

Originally posted by: Lacustris

"you hurt me more than what I deserve because I love you more than what you deserve".

That pretty much summarizes today's episode. Again I only concentrated on Ishita and Raman and rest is all fluff.

So Raman has no idea why she left. No introspection nor realization. I am seriously doubting his ability to process anyone else's pain and or point of view other than his. Especially Ishita's. It's amazing how much he took her for granted. so until an hour ago (for us 2 episodes ago) he was spitting venom and bad mouthing her and the minute he saw Ruhi in the house he was expecting the things to become normal and as usual expecting Ishita to resume her role in the house as his wife and his kids mother as if nothing happened until the next kaand breaks and he decides to question her love for him and kids and simply tell her to get lost.

His fake tooth ache and his expectation of how she comes running to him all worried with the cockiness he was showing off made my stomach burn. so he knows how much she loves and cares for him yet when the problem comes she needs to prove it to him. Now I am beginning to wonder how will she prove that she loves him and kids? what was he expecting? does she need to do something that jeopardizes her life or like Sita Ma she needs to do "Agni Pareeksha" saying Raman this much I love you and kids. In fact she even walked on the coals to prove how much she loves him... then again it's another story. But she did prove. So how many times one has to prove? If that is the case how many times Raman proved that he really loves Ishita? not talking about how he rescued her from jail illegally, or how he romanced or how much he cried when she was in the hospital. what did he do like Ishita to prove his love? or was he ever questioned by Ishita to prove his love for her? Love is not a game and there are no winners or losers. you love someone it should be felt through how you treat them.

And his oneliners how she eats half of Delhi's ration was really done in a very poor taste and very callous. really? she is also earning and she really doesn't need his money to feed herself. And the rs. 95 that she charged as the bill for his tooth ache she can't really buy idlis... not funny CVS...

Again Ishita's soliloquy proved her hurt beyond anything. And I am beginning to doubt that CVS have no intention to address the emotional turmoil that she is going through.

Raman coming to ask her for dinner, once again he proved that he is not really feeling due to his words she left the house but thinking that it was over a missed movie or dinner date she got upset and moved to her maika's house and he will win her back with his romance. really? his flat out telling her that he didn't come there to take her home proves that he is just taking it so lightly. his soliloquy about how he is not understanding why she is upset just baffled me. once again proves that he can only understand his pain and no one else's.

Their dinner date with Abishek proved as another disaster. The problem here is until Raman understands the level of hurt he inflicted on Ishita he can never address it without coming across as an insensitive jerk. The dinner date is too soon... she is still raw with her emotions and Ishita is one person who hides her emotions well and hardly cries. But the amount of tears she shed on these accusations of his is too much to ignore. The talk about love and how that is not enough says it all. and his reading from empty pages and making it all about him - "how much he loves her and how he will be lost without her and how he is happy to be with her" all about him... when the new girl says how he never hurts her breaks the dam for her and the way she breaks how their love or marriage is what it seems all romance and rosy. waiting for tomorrow to see if Raman even got the hint of her pain.

The other part of the story is if the shoe fits... how both Mrs. Bhalla and Mrs. Iyer were complaining about how their husbands didn't care when they were leaving. Made me have a sardonic smile. When it comes to married life these both women have it all... love, respect and never had to be questioned about their motherhood nor never have to be asked to prove their love for their husbands and kids yet the one time their husbands stand against them they are angry and upset. What will make these women introspect for just one minute what Ishita might have felt or lived through all the insults Raman throws at her time to time? there is love but it's always conditional and zero respect and zero tolerance and if anything that goes wrong with any of the kids her motherhood is constantly questioned and not only that what follows is even worst... throw her out of the kids life saying you are not their mother and you have no right to stay in this house.

How many times Raman repeated this humiliation to Ishita not in the privacy of their room but in public, but no one even stopped or questioned why? but suddenly they are upset that their husbands didn't stop them. in fact neither Bhallaji nor Appa asked them to leave... Mrs. Iyer she walked out because she is angry that her husband supported her daughter over her ill treatment by her husband who simply threw her out. Mrs. Bhalla didn't think what Raman did is wrong in throwing his wife out but angry that her husband supported the bahu for the ill treatment by their son.

who would want enemies if you have a family like this. Why only Ishita's faults are making to look big and all are calling her a home breaker? Yet no one is seeing what Raman did and said to her? just because he is angry and says these things it's ok? just because Ishita took it in all the insults all the time everyone expects her to take it all lying down? not even once people stop to think what's fair? I know i will be disappointed with the outcome of this track as i have no hopes.. it's better to take one episode at a time.

Viji, nice review.. and your quesiton of is Love Enough? if love encompasses the trust, respect, honest, acceptance of each others flaws, affection then yes.. else No.. especially the love like Raman's which is conditional... BIG NO..

Originally posted by: swa6

Lovely review Raji...

Originally posted by: Mdwst

Hi

Thank you for commenting..

And thank you for the compliment...

@ bold...oh that scene was touching...and he put his arms around her and that pat...he knew she was touched ...only these 2 can improvise those nuances.

PLEASE FOLLOW RULES MENTIONED BY DT...

Thank you

Originally posted by: Mdwst

Hi swarna..

Nicely written

Gulabo...mmm...ishuta or Raman as gulabo...technically it has to be Raman..he's not allowed anywhere near the kids or ishita...yes it would be nice...

But morning I read its ishuta...at the back of my mind I always thought it could be ishuta...but then how will it make sense..then few more ideas cropped in my mind..then eventually gave up...😆...lets c..

Originally posted by: Lacustris

"you hurt me more than what I deserve because I love you more than what you deserve".

That pretty much summarizes today's episode. Again I only concentrated on Ishita and Raman and rest is all fluff.

So Raman has no idea why she left. No introspection nor realization. I am seriously doubting his ability to process anyone else's pain and or point of view other than his. Especially Ishita's. It's amazing how much he took her for granted. so until an hour ago (for us 2 episodes ago) he was spitting venom and bad mouthing her and the minute he saw Ruhi in the house he was expecting the things to become normal and as usual expecting Ishita to resume her role in the house as his wife and his kids mother as if nothing happened until the next kaand breaks and he decides to question her love for him and kids and simply tell her to get lost.

His fake tooth ache and his expectation of how she comes running to him all worried with the cockiness he was showing off made my stomach burn. so he knows how much she loves and cares for him yet when the problem comes she needs to prove it to him. Now I am beginning to wonder how will she prove that she loves him and kids? what was he expecting? does she need to do something that jeopardizes her life or like Sita Ma she needs to do "Agni Pareeksha" saying Raman this much I love you and kids. In fact she even walked on the coals to prove how much she loves him... then again it's another story. But she did prove. So how many times one has to prove? If that is the case how many times Raman proved that he really loves Ishita? not talking about how he rescued her from jail illegally, or how he romanced or how much he cried when she was in the hospital. what did he do like Ishita to prove his love? or was he ever questioned by Ishita to prove his love for her? Love is not a game and there are no winners or losers. you love someone it should be felt through how you treat them.

And his oneliners how she eats half of Delhi's ration was really done in a very poor taste and very callous. really? she is also earning and she really doesn't need his money to feed herself. And the rs. 95 that she charged as the bill for his tooth ache she can't really buy idlis... not funny CVS...

Again Ishita's soliloquy proved her hurt beyond anything. And I am beginning to doubt that CVS have no intention to address the emotional turmoil that she is going through.

Raman coming to ask her for dinner, once again he proved that he is not really feeling due to his words she left the house but thinking that it was over a missed movie or dinner date she got upset and moved to her maika's house and he will win her back with his romance. really? his flat out telling her that he didn't come there to take her home proves that he is just taking it so lightly. his soliloquy about how he is not understanding why she is upset just baffled me. once again proves that he can only understand his pain and no one else's.

Their dinner date with Abishek proved as another disaster. The problem here is until Raman understands the level of hurt he inflicted on Ishita he can never address it without coming across as an insensitive jerk. The dinner date is too soon... she is still raw with her emotions and Ishita is one person who hides her emotions well and hardly cries. But the amount of tears she shed on these accusations of his is too much to ignore. The talk about love and how that is not enough says it all. and his reading from empty pages and making it all about him - "how much he loves her and how he will be lost without her and how he is happy to be with her" all about him... when the new girl says how he never hurts her breaks the dam for her and the way she breaks how their love or marriage is what it seems all romance and rosy. waiting for tomorrow to see if Raman even got the hint of her pain.

The other part of the story is if the shoe fits... how both Mrs. Bhalla and Mrs. Iyer were complaining about how their husbands didn't care when they were leaving. Made me have a sardonic smile. When it comes to married life these both women have it all... love, respect and never had to be questioned about their motherhood nor never have to be asked to prove their love for their husbands and kids yet the one time their husbands stand against them they are angry and upset. What will make these women introspect for just one minute what Ishita might have felt or lived through all the insults Raman throws at her time to time? there is love but it's always conditional and zero respect and zero tolerance and if anything that goes wrong with any of the kids her motherhood is constantly questioned and not only that what follows is even worst... throw her out of the kids life saying you are not their mother and you have no right to stay in this house.

How many times Raman repeated this humiliation to Ishita not in the privacy of their room but in public, but no one even stopped or questioned why? but suddenly they are upset that their husbands didn't stop them. in fact neither Bhallaji nor Appa asked them to leave... Mrs. Iyer she walked out because she is angry that her husband supported her daughter over her ill treatment by her husband who simply threw her out. Mrs. Bhalla didn't think what Raman did is wrong in throwing his wife out but angry that her husband supported the bahu for the ill treatment by their son.

who would want enemies if you have a family like this. Why only Ishita's faults are making to look big and all are calling her a home breaker? Yet no one is seeing what Raman did and said to her? just because he is angry and says these things it's ok? just because Ishita took it in all the insults all the time everyone expects her to take it all lying down? not even once people stop to think what's fair? I know i will be disappointed with the outcome of this track as i have no hopes.. it's better to take one episode at a time.

Viji, nice review.. and your quesiton of is Love Enough? if love encompasses the trust, respect, honest, acceptance of each others flaws, affection then yes.. else No.. especially the love like Raman's which is conditional... BIG NO..

Originally posted by: swa6

Now I m taking about episode.. :)

Episode is nice..as we spoke already, emotional n funny... funny bcz we cant take this much intense drama forever... ppl ll run away nt being able to cry wt them!😉

So, the new BREAKING NEWS in the town is Raman n Ishitha's break up😆 Some are worried some might be excited.. n everyone turn priest n children of Christ to preach them lessons about togetherness, kids n family purpose...

Adi is too worried, poor guy when he tried to separate them, he never was successful.. 😆😉since he changed, he is the one who always has to suffer n worry for his parents' separation...countless times...

He spoke to Aliya n Aliya wants to give a tried wt Amma, n Shagun wants to accompany her.. Alu doesn't want her to accompany wt her, but Shagun insists... Remember I too have hand in Ruhi's release, I invested my "white money" there..now u don't have rights to stop me!!😕

Still Pihu is her informer...

k she is worried for Pihu too.. Yesterday I could see Mihika was also worried for Pihu [not even once she worried for Ishu in entire fiasco!!]

Unfortunately just in parking lot, new baby kicked from her stomach n Alu has no choice than taking care of her father's wife's not-yet-born baby😆 No worries Alu. u ll get to know each n every symptom before u get preggy..afteral experience matters 😉

Ruhi Pihu scene is good, hey see Ruhi came back to all of her senses, taking care n spending time with pihu is the sign of that.. yet she is unsuccessful in her attempts... Poor Pihu, she is seeing her mummy papa war first time after she changed...so she is not yet habituated... u will get it Pihu dont worry

Yaha dekho Mrs Ayyer n Bhalla.. Ayyer changed plates n homes... jumped right into Toshi's room... they don't have any worries for their children's marriage life, as they have their own issues(?!!)...they were busy complaining about their resp partners... that one didn't stop there n one didn't stop her... what about Raman stopping Ishu? what about Toshi stopping Ishu? This time no plans to keep them together haan? thanks guys .. we also want the same😉 "DO NOT DISTURB😉"

Raman Romi are too cute today😆 especially Romi...playing on two sides...hon?! I dont have any complaints...he understood the situation from both sides, and trying to align Raman into the same...

Raman is as much overconfident as he can ever be... Sry Raman, soon it gonna break as a house ofcards... His scenes, nautanki is funny... (usually i dont get this words completely, based on ur reviews only I get to understand fully) but now I m also against his 'one' punch dialogue...stil he might have meant it in funny way... And Neelu's look before she left when he has bitten-her-head... is precious😆

Ok, now he got a loose end of a rope ...dinner plan as a hope..to bring back his madarasan..its not gonna be that easy...

Ishu is hurt for years... she is bursting out all these years pain...

she is hurt that he just considers as either ruhi's mother..or not-a-mother...she is hurt for him not believing in her love, many more things that I m not able to express..She has defined her "problem" clearly, now its has to be Raman who should decode-understand-and write answer to it..which should satisfy her...

Reg dinner date.. sometimes when things are out of control...it happens.. when we are way too much hurt, when couple are in middle of the fight..and have to act infront of others for formality... we may or may not carry that decency...sometimes we burst out infront of others, only to get embarrassed later when we calmed down...

If and all she is in control, she wouldn't even speak "anything" that gave away their issues...As we see, since the beginning she is mostly the one who coversup their relationship-issues/status before others...but she lost it today, as the emotion she is feeling currently is not anymore in her hands n in control... i thought so!