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Posted: 8 years ago
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Read all d review.. agree to most of them too but wanna point out one thing which none of them pointed Out that is Raman asking to start d rituals in ishita's absence it's fine that he is angry due pihu that's ok but the one who always wanted this relationship to happen frm d beginning was ishita but due to his anger Raman easily said to start d ritual in her absence tat was really wrong,nw can he say to start d engagement without d groom's mom that's unfair... Kahin ka gussa kahin aur nikaalna is wrong..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: snehaseshan

Read all d review.. agree to most of them too but wanna point out one thing which none of them pointed Out that is Raman asking to start d rituals in ishita's absence it's fine that he is angry due pihu that's ok but the one who always wanted this relationship to happen frm d beginning was ishita but due to his anger Raman easily said to start d ritual in her absence tat was really wrong,nw can he say to start d engagement without d groom's mom that's unfair... Kahin ka gussa kahin aur nikaalna is wrong..



totally agreed to ur point sneha..
dats y i kinda said it ws BLAH..
kahi pe kuch kahi pe kuch...

dat ws uncalled for...

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Viji, read your thread..
No words the way story is going and Pihu right out rejecting Ishita and accepting Raman and the symbolic gesture of her separating Raman from Ishita, and still wanting to stay with Shagun and Raman spitting venom and him being angry at her and pretend romance with her now for custody of Pihu where Pihu rejected to recognize Ishita as her mother and he is aware of it.. none of this make sense to me. But I will try to answer why Ishita bearing all this..

7 years ago when Raman threw her out from his life as a wife and mother of his children and discarded her as a woman. Ishita was shattered, broken st the out right rejection from Raman at the same time upon losing Ruhi she lost the will to live and tried to end her life. Unfortunately it didn't happen and because of her Mani was incapacitated and she believed that she is bad luck to everyone whoever crosses path with her and imposed a self exile for 7 years.
But fate brought her back to her family which is not hers, the husband even not hers and the child is not hers either. Even told by her husband that she is nobody to that child and him..he played victim.
But she accepted her fate. Upon finding Ruhi and on Raman's request she moved in with him.. though in her mind and heart she knew that place is not hers but Shagun's and accepted it too.
Again fate forced her to stay and accept all the abuSes thrown at her by both Ruhi and Raman for the safety of Ruhi. Once they got the custody of Ruhi she tried to leave..now Adi stopped her and questioned her "Am I not your child too?" For a mother it's hard to reject that plea and she stayed back.
Mind you all in all she didn't expect a wife status from Raman and neither he gave her that deserved respect.
Raman told Shagun he can't marry her because he can't love her not because he is in love with Ishita or he still considers her as his wife. And on Ruhi's insistence he was ready to marry Ishita again not because of love. But that marriage didn't happen. Out of good heart ishita wants to do the justice to Shagun and now Shagun got married to Mani.. and she started manipulating Pihu. As usual Raman didn't trust Ishita and the manipulations continued to the point Shagun made Pihu ask either her or Ishita.. so Ishita chose for him.. it's Pihu..as he can't live with Pihu..did he try to do any wrong right at this point? No and he still started romancing Ishita as a namesake wife. After rejecting to get married to her again..
The problem here is Ishita loved him with all his flaws but Raman didn't. So everytime Raman showed his callousness towards her. They lost Pihu because he couldn't even show an iota of respect to his dead wife to put her name in the baby BC as mother..it's his mistake they lost Pihu..yet he blamed her.
He never once realized his hand in the ruined lives of his an Ishita's but kept on blaming her for Ruhi fiasco 7 years ago and now for pihu fiasco.
Once again fate played. For Adi's marriage/engagement he had to marry Ishita.. again it's not out of love but for Adi. She once again obliged.
Pihu found out the truth through Mani but Raman heard her telling the truth to Pihu and his hatred for her increased now.. because he is worried to be hated by Pihu.. him leaving Ishita back at Mani's house with Pihu shows the value he placed in Ishita.
He didn't care for her to reach the engagement but wanted them to continue without her.
Did she get hurt? Yes she did.. she is a human being too. But does anyone cares for her hurt? No..so she will not say a word to anyone.
Now Pihu knows the truth he wants to get her custody.. how by twisting Ishita's hand one more time and by pretending all is well with her while he is still mad at her. This time once again she obliged for pihu..
She is a dead person internally.. and she made herself a prisoner to this family. She has no purpose other than to keep this family happy.she has no expectations from Raman nor from this marriage. She believes that her rash decision of 7 years ago caused a havoc in everyone's life and she is taking it all..
For people screaming Ishita has no self respect she does.. but it's not to walk away but stay and take crap.. while her insides are getting bruised severely..it's lot harder to take the shit thrown at her for her kids sake.. who truly made her a mother in all senses..
For her Ruhi is her hearts child and god created her for Ishita only..as her loyalties and love never wavered from Ishita the moment their paths crossed.
For Adi though under the influence of Shagun he hated Ishita he was old enough to see the selfless nature and by being rejected by his mother he embraced her as his mother and from that day there is no turning back for him from that fact.. as ishita told Raman over and over she has her kids and she doesn't need anymore.and she without a shred of doubt believed both Ruhi and Adi are hers though they were born to Shagun..
But Raman wanted another child and went against ishita's wish and made his ex a surrogate mother.. yes he and shagun got a kid for themselves.. as Pihu is not and will never be ishita's as she is both Raman and Shagun's kid in all true senses as Shagun had the privilege to carry, deliver and raise and be part of Pihu life along with Raman.. as they both shared many firsts of Pihu.. she is theirs only..
Pihu rejecting Ishita is not wrong as she was made to believe Shagun is her mother.. irony is Pihu will only come to Ishita when she faced an indigestible behavior from Shagun not because Ishita is her mother but she can have a better safe place with Ishita than with Shagun..

For me Raman was, is and always will be selfish who puts his self-interest above all..


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ishrafan_us

Viji, read your thread..
No words the way story is going and Pihu right out rejecting Ishita and accepting Raman and the symbolic gesture of her separating Raman from Ishita, and still wanting to stay with Shagun and Raman spitting venom and him being angry at her and pretend romance with her now for custody of Pihu where Pihu rejected to recognize Ishita as her mother and he is aware of it.. none of this make sense to me. But I will try to answer why Ishita bearing all this..

7 years ago when Raman threw her out from his life as a wife and mother of his children and discarded her as a woman. Ishita was shattered, broken st the out right rejection from Raman at the same time upon losing Ruhi she lost the will to live and tried to end her life. Unfortunately it didn't happen and because of her Mani was incapacitated and she believed that she is bad luck to everyone whoever crosses path with her and imposed a self exile for 7 years.
But fate brought her back to her family which is not hers, the husband even not hers and the child is not hers either. Even told by her husband that she is nobody to that child and him..he played victim.
But she accepted her fate. Upon finding Ruhi and on Raman's request she moved in with him.. though in her mind and heart she knew that place is not hers but Shagun's and accepted it too.
Again fate forced her to stay and accept all the abuSes thrown at her by both Ruhi and Raman for the safety of Ruhi. Once they got the custody of Ruhi she tried to leave..now Adi stopped her and questioned her "Am I not your child too?" For a mother it's hard to reject that plea and she stayed back.
Mind you all in all she didn't expect a wife status from Raman and neither he gave her that deserved respect.
Raman told Shagun he can't marry her because he can't love her not because he is in love with Ishita or he still considers her as his wife. And on Ruhi's insistence he was ready to marry Ishita again not because of love. But that marriage didn't happen. Out of good heart ishita wants to do the justice to Shagun and now Shagun got married to Mani.. and she started manipulating Pihu. As usual Raman didn't trust Ishita and the manipulations continued to the point Shagun made Pihu ask either her or Ishita.. so Ishita chose for him.. it's Pihu..as he can't live with Pihu..did he try to do any wrong right at this point? No and he still started romancing Ishita as a namesake wife. After rejecting to get married to her again..
The problem here is Ishita loved him with all his flaws but Raman didn't. So everytime Raman showed his callousness towards her. They lost Pihu because he couldn't even show an iota of respect to his dead wife to put her name in the baby BC as mother..it's his mistake they lost Pihu..yet he blamed her.
He never once realized his hand in the ruined lives of his an Ishita's but kept on blaming her for Ruhi fiasco 7 years ago and now for pihu fiasco.
Once again fate played. For Adi's marriage/engagement he had to marry Ishita.. again it's not out of love but for Adi. She once again obliged.
Pihu found out the truth through Mani but Raman heard her telling the truth to Pihu and his hatred for her increased now.. because he is worried to be hated by Pihu.. him leaving Ishita back at Mani's house with Pihu shows the value he placed in Ishita.
He didn't care for her to reach the engagement but wanted them to continue without her.
Did she get hurt? Yes she did.. she is a human being too. But does anyone cares for her hurt? No..so she will not say a word to anyone.
Now Pihu knows the truth he wants to get her custody.. how by twisting Ishita's hand one more time and by pretending all is well with her while he is still mad at her. This time once again she obliged for pihu..
She is a dead person internally.. and she made herself a prisoner to this family. She has no purpose other than to keep this family happy.she has no expectations from Raman nor from this marriage. She believes that her rash decision of 7 years ago caused a havoc in everyone's life and she is taking it all..
For people screaming Ishita has no self respect she does.. but it's not to walk away but stay and take crap.. while her insides are getting bruised severely..it's lot harder to take the shit thrown at her for her kids sake.. who truly made her a mother in all senses..
For her Ruhi is her hearts child and god created her for Ishita only..as her loyalties and love never wavered from Ishita the moment their paths crossed.
For Adi though under the influence of Shagun he hated Ishita he was old enough to see the selfless nature and by being rejected by his mother he embraced her as his mother and from that day there is no turning back for him from that fact.. as ishita told Raman over and over she has her kids and she doesn't need anymore.and she without a shred of doubt believed both Ruhi and Adi are hers though they were born to Shagun..
But Raman wanted another child and went against ishita's wish and made his ex a surrogate mother.. yes he and shagun got a kid for themselves.. as Pihu is not and will never be ishita's as she is both Raman and Shagun's kid in all true senses as Shagun had the privilege to carry, deliver and raise and be part of Pihu life along with Raman.. as they both shared many firsts of Pihu.. she is theirs only..
Pihu rejecting Ishita is not wrong as she was made to believe Shagun is her mother.. irony is Pihu will only come to Ishita when she faced an indigestible behavior from Shagun not because Ishita is her mother but she can have a better safe place with Ishita than with Shagun..

For me Raman was, is and always will be selfish who puts his self-interest above all..



Agree with ur take of ishita being sacrificial but one thing which I couldn't connect was d precap wen d person who has hurt her is accepting his mistakes & apologising what is d need for her to stop him & say he doesn't need to explain & say sorry.. wen she herself felt bad abt his words wats wrong in accepting d apology wen it has really hurt her. Y does she always HVE to put up a brave mask on her face.. that's wrong na coz she sayng like that sometimes is taken for granted by Raman & wenever he is angry he shouts so it's better for her to tell that she felt bad & accept the apology so that Raman also knows to reduce his outburst.. if she keeps telling him not to say sorry for his words which has hurt her then one day Raman being impulsive might spew more venom like he did pre leap & expect her to accept & understand that it was just a outburst but that time she couldn't take it & took a drastic step..so IMO ishita shud definitely open up wen she feels bad & wen Raman's words hurt her so that Raman doesn't take her for granted &sometime cross d limits which breaks her completely.. so handling things wen it was small it's better rather than increase it to such a level which becomes beyond her tolerance..Its good that ishita opens up wen raman's words hurt her even though it's a minor one.. so that Raman might also reduce spewing more venom..


For ex: during child swap track ishita wen she lost patience & saw ruhi hurt she shouted in Raman that it's bcoz of u that ruhi is not with her but Raman immediately got angry on her & felt bad that she is blaming him for everything then next she apologised.. so wen ppl take us granted although d person who is taking u granted is wrong but it's d mistake if d person who has given d chance to take u for granted.. so ishita shud also tell wen she feels hurt then & there to avoid getting insulted more.. there's nothing wrong tells no ur hubby that he has hurt him.. see if u keep piling up ur hurts & d person who is hurting u wil think that y won't take anything seriously & might go overboard & that time ishita might not b able to take it,so it's better to transperant abt ur emotions to ur partner..
Jut my POV..no offence meant
Edited by snehaseshan - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: snehaseshan


Agree with ur take of ishita being sacrificial but one thing which I couldn't connect was d precap wen d person who has hurt her is accepting his mistakes & apologising what is d need for her to stop him & say he doesn't need to explain & say sorry.. wen she herself felt bad abt his words wats wrong in accepting d apology wen it has really hurt her. Y does she always HVE to put up a brave mask on her face.. that's wrong na coz she sayng like that sometimes is taken for granted by Raman & wenever he is angry he shouts so it's better for her to tell that she felt bad & accept the apology so that Raman also knows to reduce his outburst.. if she keeps telling him not to say sorry for his words which has hurt her then one day Raman being impulsive might spew more venom like he did pre leap & expect her to accept & understand that it was just a outburst but that time she couldn't take it & took a drastic step..so IMO ishita shud definitely open up wen she feels bad & wen Raman's words hurt her so that Raman doesn't take her for granted &sometime cross d limits which breaks her completely.. so handling things wen it was small it's better rather than increase it to such a level which becomes beyond her tolerance..Its good that ishita opens up wen raman's words hurt her even though it's a minor one.. so that Raman might also reduce spewing more venom..


For ex: during child swap track ishita wen she lost patience & saw ruhi hurt she shouted in Raman that it's bcoz of u that ruhi is not with her but Raman immediately got angry on her & felt bad that she is blaming him for everything then next she apologised.. so wen ppl take us granted although d person who is taking u granted is wrong but it's d mistake if d person who has given d chance to take u for granted.. so ishita shud also tell wen she feels hurt then & there to avoid getting insulted more.. there's nothing wrong tells no ur hubby that he has hurt him.. see if u keep piling up ur hurts & d person who is hurting u wil think that y won't take anything seriously & might go overboard & that time ishita might not b able to take it,so it's better to transperant abt ur emotions to ur partner..
Jut my POV..no offence meant

Sneha, no offence yaar..
Why she says no sorry needed.. for a guy like Raman do you think sorry carry any weight? Have we seen any in these two years? His sorry is just a lip service and she knows that.. the sorries, the promises he makes to her he breaks them faster than she understands them.. once she clearly told him that all she needs is little love and little respect.. till now he couldn't deliver those. For a person like her very selfless and who made a huge turnaround in his life gave him love and got his kids together she got worse treatment from him than his adulteress ex wife.
Right at this point her breakingdown didn't reach him, her patience didn't reach him, her anger and when she couldn't take all the abuSes he is hurling at her when she slapped that didn't reach him what should she do now? He is refused to believe and acknowledge her at this point. He gave the feeling that he married her for Adi and for pihu he hurt her again, left her back at Mani's house and not even bothered for her to be at the engagement but when she made it to the venue he showed so much anger and hatred in his face.. may be for someone who gets Raman more these may not be big deal but for me I read it as pure loathing.
So as I said she has no expectations from Raman or this marriage and whatever he says holds no value as far as sorry is concerned and when he starts running his mouth he doesn't hesitate to hit her where it hurts.. but she made a promise to stay for kids and that's what she is doing..and to make matters easy between them she even apologized for all that happened until now though major contribution is from him.. but did he even realize..
When the sorry he tells has no meaning she rather not hear it.. that's the reason she is saying no sorry..
Hope i made sense.. again this is my POV..

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