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Posted: 9 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: DivanIshraru

poonam agree with you
Inspite of raman repeatedly repeating the same thing that you left me,you left me,I am all alone,she is again ready to leave without telling anything to anyone
just like raman still used all those crass worda after leap
so,raman and ishita still hasn't learned anything frm their mistakes yt.

correct both not realizing.
My prblm is y need a third person to realize...
If raman neglects ishita's feelings wen it comes to his kids(i read that) then for ishita too raman comes last wen it comes to her selfless nature..
I wud like to know only one thing if ishita breaks down in raman's arms that i cant live without u (forget abt lift scene that is totally forgotten by ishita) n raman thinks abt shagun or mani's sacrifice n ignore ishita's breakdown n decides to leave her then v will support raman ...?? A big NO from my side...and i m not saying ishita shud forgive raman n run into his arms bcs ppl always take it wrong...
N ur line is really bang on...if raman dances on shagun's tune then ishita too dances on mani's tune it doesnt matter wat relation she shares with him..
He jst said n she is ready even if its a plan...i give up 🥱
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Posted: 9 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


@bold - Me too Krishy. I am actually waiting to watch Ishita-Adi confrontation. How emotional would it be? 😭. But I am also a bit disappointed that Adi had to remind Ishita about him missing her and the family missing her. It is actually a sad truth that Adi has been taken for granted by both Ishita and Raman over these 7 years. Looks like Adi will be made to feel that he was better off as a spoilt brat, because both IshRa poured their love on this kid back then. I don't say they don't love him, but it is just that he doesn't come to their mind immediately in extreme conditions as well. The poor guy also has underwent so much of emotional pain and more importantly has not got parent's love and affection.

Yes, Pihu calling Ishima, the one I'm desperately waiting for since the leap. Writing this gives me goosebumps. I don't know how would I control my tears when I get to watch it.


This will never be addressed either. ..🥱
But kudos to your positivity krishy and priya...my interest in this track and what it has to offer is sadly over..I will still watch it for good emo scenes -if any and lollipops -if any..😛
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Posted: 9 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: bscorp13


This will never be addressed either. ..🥱
But kudos to your positivity krishy and priya...my interest in this track and what it has to offer is sadly over..I will still watch it for good emo scenes -if any and lollipops -if any..😛


Pb - after coming to terms with a lot in YHM, I am trying to find a small silver lining in lollipop scenes b/c neither the story nor it's execution are appealing to me any longer. There is no winning. But I have stuck around YHM through it's highs and millions of lows...so I gotta keep trying

Luckily our thread openers, Aman/Sri, and others here are good at finding even 1 1 minute scene that is worth watching 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: gargpoo

correct both not realizing.
My prblm is y need a third person to realize...
If raman neglects ishita's feelings wen it comes to his kids(i read that) then for ishita too raman comes last wen it comes to her selfless nature..
I wud like to know only one thing if ishita breaks down in raman's arms that i cant live without u (forget abt lift scene that is totally forgotten by ishita) n raman thinks abt shagun or mani's sacrifice n ignore ishita's breakdown n decides to leave her then v will support raman ...?? A big NO from my side...and i m not saying ishita shud forgive raman n run into his arms bcs ppl always take it wrong...
N ur line is really bang on...if raman dances on shagun's tune then ishita too dances on mani's tune it doesnt matter wat relation she shares with him..
He jst said n she is ready even if its a plan...i give up 🥱

No point ranting poonam, sad fact is cvs have chosen sides too...thas why it takes a mani to make ishita realize that she can't give up on her family...that's why we don't get any convos between ishuta and raman after such a huge event like ruhi custody bring given to them... ..i will wait for tjhe epi to air..but yes..God forbid we ever get a scene where raman thinks to shagun's sacrifice. .heck ppl blame raman for bringing shagun into their lives for pihu..but fact is ishita too kept mani in het life even after he recovered etc., even after he proposed to her. .but since cvs show mani as the well wisher and shagun as back to evil..guess who every one will blame. ..
Its so obvious what cvs are doing ...and thats why I agree with @charminggenie..while shagun eats screentime...mani kills the love story if anything if it is left that is. ..

Waise would it not have been a million times better if ruhi and raman had saved ishita from tjhe kidnappers and ruhi had her realization that day that her ishima could never give up on her. ..no..it takes a lengthy lecture by mani instead...this is no longer a story of raman and ishita who once loved each other and their small family..it's of 2 individuals who hardly know each other anymore. , Everything Needs A 3rd party..that's what comes through off late. ..😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: gargpoo

Mihir raman scene ws really gud..
Raman is determined to punish the one whobtried to harm ishita ..his dlg expressions superb..
The look he gave to anil ws he is going yo eat him alive..
Ishra ..both r worried n protective towards each other..loved it
Ruhi's turmoil..i can understand...bt she needs to give time..7 yrs pain can not b erased bt running away is not the solution..
Mani ruhi scene ws gud...mani explained ishita's pain...bt i wud love to add some more lines..like u both r precious to ishra ..they decided to save both of u bt the turn of events did wat no one expected..
I wud love to c raman here..bcs i watch this show for ishra plus their kids...y always included shagun n mani in most imp matters...i wud love to c ishraru scene...khair..
They didnt give a single ishra scene after kidnapping abt kidnapping
They didnt give ishra sharing happiness for getting ruhi back n today mani had to interven to make ruhi understand..

Precap..
I wud wait for the epi to air bt still if its plan then again a question y is raman in the show??they need mani for both ishru ..y cant they give ishra confrontation..??
N mani said n ishita ready to leave wat abt adi her amma appa (i m not including raman)...wat if its not a plan then ishita wud hv gone..is she not repeating the mistake wat she did 7 yrs ago ??
I really feel bad wen raman is bsy searching kidnapper his wife n daughter running away...i get it he ws wrong bt doesnt he deserve to know atleast wat is happening behind his back..??

This is my pov..no offence plzz


nice review poonam
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13


This will never be addressed either. ..🥱
But kudos to your positivity krishy and priya...my interest in this track and what it has to offer is sadly over..I will still watch it for good emo scenes -if any and lollipops -if any..😛


Cheer up Pb. Shagun turning black will only bring IshRa together. I know the drama quotient would be more, but shagun getting exposed would make me more relieved than her white avatar and roaming around in the Bhalla house. Atleast if she is exposed and thrown out, I think we will get to see the IshRa problem and IshHu bonding. After all, IshRa, IshRu & Pihu-Ishita are the crux of the show post leap right? So I guess this track would only pave way for these things. Like Toshiji said, fools like Shagun and Ashok would only get IshRa more closer. Chillax... Till then we will have to get satisfied with whatever good scenes they air. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: sunitas123


I think people are forgetting a huge fact - Raman drew Ishita to suicide and he continued his wierd behaviour for a long time even after she got back and he was to marry Shagun.
Nope not forgetting everything but you are missing the point, Ishita is NEVER angry about that to him. Never and she also enables or like she says on-screen understands his anger. Is it crappy , yes but is your FL protests never.
Just like we conveniently overlook how Ishita left the house for 7 years and never bothered even asking about her parents' well being or about Adi and Pihu- weird that too. This is precisely why the leap and pre-leap thing is negated. They don't want to address it to show Ishita as a flawed parent too.

Post leap, Raman had built Shagun's hopes and she is still Pihu's mother and as per Raman the asli maa of Pihu as well.
Yeah well, weird were alot of things ..remember when Mani and Bala wanted to file the custody case for Pihu without Ishita's consent/

Raman has also told Ishita not to dream about Pihu and then he was okay to marry her for Ruhi. Ishita knows he loves her but just like Ruhi she is insecure too. Plus now Raman need not marry her since Ruhi is back and Ruhi too does not seem too inclined towards Ishita. In other words Raman Ruhi, Pihu and Shagun can be a happy family as per her thinking and she just came back and finished her unfinished business. What Raman has done with Shagun and Pihu must be a joke for him, but thats not the case for Ishita, it is very serious. And with Raman taking littleinitiative on anything, she does not want to spoil Pihu's world.
What was a joke then? Ishita leaving and pretending to be dead? was it a joke for her old parents? Or her kids..the psychology..or would that have been a joke if Raman was put behind the bars for abetting.
No, what Raman did was right given the situation..Ishita has no problems about that..have we seen opposing to that..or has she objected to her child calling shagun Ma even in private?
Ishita is worried because she thinks she is messing Shagun's life.
Ishita who saw Raman crumbling..who knows the whole Ruhi return hinged on Ishra being together.
Ishita who heard and saw Raman being distraught about her leaving him
Ishita who should talk and express but nope..she doesn't think like that..so why are we talking about what we would have done using Ishita/.

On the other hand, what has Mani done? He saved Ishita from suicide and then he loves her. He was also the one who pushed Raman to go after Ruhi, he had already given up even before starting.
See this is the problem ..this show never needed Mani..a father should go on his own- if you cannot see this as Raman's emotional stunting by the cvs to push Mani on a pedestral so that he gets support from Ishita fans..then what is not?
Why do you even need Mani? How the heck was he there to save her?
Wasn't he bankrupt..did he call also insult her in the jail during alya case?
Did he not also mess up this show during earlier arc
Did he not make a move on Ishita after she rejected him?
why is he still here?

Raman loves Ishita but his extreme anger when anything goes wrong with his kids towards Ishita has a long history and it just got worse with Ruhi kidnap.
They are both messed up..with zero conversations between them as parents or as a couple..which is why [people protest against Mani because he eats up emotionally crunching scenes of Raman
And why should a woman with self-respect be forced to put up with an ex in the same house? She wont be able to do anything now due to Pihu and she feels it is injustice to Shagun, why not? Raman uses Shagun as per his fancy but he has forgotten- Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
LOL Where was this self-respect when Ishita got Shagun in the bedroom.I would support you had Ishita EVER went after this angle..heck she is the one championing the cause of Shagun always.
Ofcrouse Raman should know..but then where would the plot be

Why would Ishita not listen to Mani Listening to Raman she committed suicide, listening to Mani, she survived... thats the bitter truth.
LOL she survived?
Bitter truth is that..you are even making this comparison and not understanding why the heck the show has suffered because of Mani..this putting down Raman is exactly what cvs want and give you Mani to make these arguments. Did it ever occur how come he suddenly was there to save Ishita- nope? Exactly..that.
No arc, no continuity yet he gets to play the saviour.
Does Ishita know this friend like Raman also took about her rights by conspiring to file that custody case..making that choice for her..yeah no..I get it

Raman has not understood ishita's pain. And Raman has always been manipulated by Shagun- even during the last Ruhi-Adi swap, Raman did nothing to remove Ruhi's MU about ishita. He kept himself in her good books and went on dinner date with Shagun.
Nor did Ishita. She saw her man broke down, saw the reality of Shagun drama , lived in aroom with him..saw him beg her to not leave..yet emotionally stunted.


So ishita must leave and Raman needs to take the initiative to set things right between her and Pihu and he needs to handle Shagun, which he wont...till she turns grey...
Ocourse Ishita must leave..she should..move out of this house to either go to her parents house or stay close to them.What is the need to play house with mani again..or got o Australia ..what err has Adi done here?


If you want respect for Ishita then you have to make Raman strong and for that you need to remove Mani .Hence the hating. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: gargpoo

correct both not realizing.
My prblm is y need a third person to realize...
If raman neglects ishita's feelings wen it comes to his kids(i read that) then for ishita too raman comes last wen it comes to her selfless nature..
I wud like to know only one thing if ishita breaks down in raman's arms that i cant live without u (forget abt lift scene that is totally forgotten by ishita) n raman thinks abt shagun or mani's sacrifice n ignore ishita's breakdown n decides to leave her then v will support raman ...?? A big NO from my side...and i m not saying ishita shud forgive raman n run into his arms bcs ppl always take it wrong...
N ur line is really bang on...if raman dances on shagun's tune then ishita too dances on mani's tune it doesnt matter wat relation she shares with him..
He jst said n she is ready even if its a plan...i give up 🥱

poonam,that is the thing I hated ishita listening to mani and ready to give up
Ofcourse, If raman thinks of Mani and shagun's sacrifice and gets ready to give up on ishita, then I wl be the one to first hate it
I even hated the almost sharam marriage coz I never thought Raman would do anything like that

Just now I read in fb,Ishita jagatmata mode has only made raman suffer just like raman's anger has been reason of ishita's suffering. that is true.Both ishra have shortcomings.

bt tl me one thing,one year ago, raman made a mistake of ruhi-Adi swap,ishita at that time had said a lot of things to raman lyk "ruhi hai toh hum hai",and even after the court scene ishita repeatedly blamed raman that because of u I am away frm my daughter.I totally gt that ws ishita the mother speaking.
what if at that time raman had decided to go away frm Ishita????
wl we be still supporting him???

I am no way justifying raman's words,just yesterday I made a post written till d date raman actually makes an effort in mending ishra relationship, ishita shouldn't gt back to raman.

bt statements like "raman wants to be in good books of shagun","raman wants to keep shagun with him","raman likes to dance to shagun's tunes" boils ke up to extent😡
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Posted: 9 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


Cheer up Pb. Shagun turning black will only bring IshRa together. I know the drama quotient would be more, but shagun getting exposed would make me more relieved than her white avatar and roaming around in the Bhalla house. Atleast if she is exposed and thrown out, I think we will get to see the IshRa problem and IshHu bonding. After all, IshRa, IshRu & Pihu-Ishita are the crux of the show post leap right? So I guess this track would only pave way for these things. Like Toshiji said, fools like Shagun and Ashok would only get IshRa more closer. Chillax... Till then we will have to get satisfied with whatever good scenes they air. 😆


Sorry for being pessimistic yaar...but @bold..is it? Because here was a chance to show a a beautiful culmination to tjhe 30 day deadline. .most important for all 3 of them. . And what did we get today. .3 seperate realizations. .
Raman -realized when he almost lost ishita again...self talk and anguish...but has not yet conveyed to her
Ruhi - confused still, but had a huge 'realization moment' thanks to 3 Rd party - mani
Ishita - still confused about her place in the family and with raman , thanks to shagun - will have a mini realization , again thanks to mani using negative reinforcement. ..
So why have bothered bringing 3 if then together for 30 days..? Was it too much to exact all 3 realizing at least in bits due to each other, for each other .. and wanting to be with each other..?..today was a huge opportunity lost..heck raman doesn't even know ishita and ruhi planned to leave i guess😕

What makes you confident another 4 months of shagun and sauten and pihu manipulation won't end in another damp squib😕

Btw i liked toshi and Amma today..reminded me of our lollipop gang...😆😆..even in all this drama all they cared was ishita still loves raman and raman is starting to declare he loves ishita too😆..talk about blinker vision😉
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie


If you want respect for Ishita then you have to make Raman strong and for that you need to remove Mani .Hence the hating. 😆


Thanks for being so clear and putting facts as facts... what you have stated is exactly what cvs have shown us..nothing more or less...deciding to conveniently ignore some aspects will not change reality...
Great response👏

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