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Posted: 9 years ago
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Todays epi is good.. mainly few people really stood out;

Romi - post leap Romi I am loving this guy.. the character growth CVS have shown in both Romi and Adi in a not so carefully carved manner turned out to be so beautiful. He is the black sheep of the family hiding under his brother's shadow sort of good for nothing .. but has a good heart when it came to the family.. 7 years ago he severed his relationship with his brother and family over a very severe accusation.. though heart breaking it did good for him.. There is no better teacher than life.. but he found his foot in the world and achieved big.. to achieve that he did what he is best at.. through not so legal means.. but that is what he is.. (just like Shagun leaving Raman is the best thing that ever happened to him though it came with a price but he pushed his boundaries to become what he is with what he is good at - through legal means).. but what is amazing is Romi who is irresponsible pre leap became very responsible to stand up to his brother whom he used treat as a God, questioned his decision about marrying Ishita. Bravo Romi.. and his question was straight no mincing words as he also knew both his brother and Bhabhi to whom he have immense respect.. is his brother marrying Ishita to show off or for real.. made me tear up.. because post leap Romi understood Ishita more than post leap Raman. is it becasue both of these are scarred by Raman.. don't know.. but his fear was genuine for that woman with whom he hardly spent any time definitely not as much as time he spent with his brother. but a great character growth..

both brother bonding is good..

Mihika - the one character bashed and ridiculed but she is one rooted person and Avantika definitely making her mark as Mihika.. i am actually falling in love with her character.. Mihika verma is unique in her own way, but Avantika definitely is winning my heart.. her bond with Adi is wonderful.. and today the way she spoke with Adi shows her pain for her sister as well as her sister's son who is hurting and scared of loosing his mother.. but the way she spoke to him about his wrong doing and Adi listening to her and apologizing to Mani is so heart touching..

Ruhi - God.. this kid is hurting.. hurting beyond words and she is so insecure.. insecure about her future.. think about it.. yes she is mis understanding and drawing her own conclusions and blaming her mother pretty much at every turn of the events.. after all she is a 14 years old who grew up in a very abusive environment. What she is looking for is security and love not just from anyone but from her mother.. she again wants to be the apple of the eye for her mother.. actually made me cry for her.. yes, she is coming off as a very rude and disrespectful by calling her mother by name.. I get it.. but that's her mother and she has every right to lash on her for leaving her with the devil.. so.. no i will not look at Ruhi in the wrong light.. no matter what.. because i am actually seeing her pain.. so think about it.. who is going to loose and loose big if Ishita and Raman are not married.. Raman he has his family with him and his Pihu whom he dotes on is with him.. whether he is going to be happy or not is the question but he will not be physically tortured for sure.. Adi - he is still going to be with his family, Ishita already resigned to her fate also can live but what about Ruhi? Can she go back and live with that evil woman? can she again go through that physical torture and no love.. that is why she is crying and pushing and making sure that they heard her.. if she didn't do that do we know that Raman will again think of marrying Ishita.. no..

today when she was confronting Raman and giving ultimatum she was actually crying.. that she will go to Nidhi for ever.. for her if Ishita choose not to marry Raman then it is end of everything for Ruhi.. if she really want to go to Nidhi what is stopping her really? even today she said she will wait until Ishita comes back.. that actually made me laugh.. bad me.. but I am acutally seeing her pain that if her mother who thinks more about others than herself decides to do drama to delay Ruhi going to Nidhi but not really stopping it for whatever she is thinking is right.. think about Ruhi pain..

Shagun - i will really wait until she shows something or some feeling that I can understand.. if she is playing a game and that is really dirty to the point she doesn't care for Ruhi.. i really hate CVS for that.. bacause i get Shagun.. she can never love anyone other than herself.. she already wrote off Adi and Ruhi as Ishita's kids.. and they do feel the same.. Pihu - really who is Pihu for her when she can write off her kids? Pihu is her ticket to get to Raman.. does she really love Raman? nope.. i don't think so.. the only person who can love Raman is Ishita and that too with all his good and bad.. it's a whole package deal for her.. but for Shagun - she wanted Raman - 20 years back Raman for whom she is the sun, moon and the world.. that's it.. she wanted to feel special and only Raman can do that.. that is it.. she wants Ishita's place in Raman's life.. but for that she going to the length of harming her own daughter or a small child is insane..

Raman - again this man i don't get him at all sometimes.. today when she was missing his first reaction was he is upset - upset that she is doing some samaj seva.. for me Raman clearly didn't understand Ishita.. if Ishita's good heart helped him he is happy but if not he is very upset.. when he told Ruhi that Ishita would not leave her alone and go some where I liked it, but he just blew it for me in 2 seconds blaming her for her being good or trying to be mother Theresa.. he should know above all others that Ishita is anything but irresponsible.. but he is back to his taunting mode.. only when Romi expressed his concern for Ishita he got panicked.. not done Raman Bhalla.. not yet..

to be honest i hated Raman eye talk with Shagun today.. when Ruhi was again lashing out..

towards the end he said that if anything happens to Ishita that he will die.. that is true.. may be his redemption is starting.. but i will wait.. not going to believe in Shagun whiteness/ blackness or Raman redemption.. until I see them..

Maya, loved your take... Regarding Adi.. he hated Alia calling his Ishima as Amma.. you know how he loves.. one thing I have to say is Raman's kids got Raman's genes when it comes to love.. it is obsession for them.. be it Ruhi or Adi.. they are so possessive about their mother.. Adi just like Ruhi will loose his cool if he thinks he is going to loose his mother... so him lashing out i'm ok with it.. and I don't think Mani took it wrong either..



hope i am making sense in what i am putting down.. thanks for reading..
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Posted: 9 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: mayasundar


Hi Pinkrose,

I am also so mad at Ruhi for not seeing what is obvious in front of her but yesterday Raji take on Ruhi made sense to me so I'm copying her post for you probably it will give the answer you are looking for.

This is what Raji(Ishrafan_us) had to say about Ruhi

Ruhi - the most confusing character so far.. her hurt is so deep.. her insecurity is unfathomable and what is more surprising is she is emotionally as volatile as Raman, and she could scheme like Shagun her biological mother but surprisingly she is so much like her heart mother, her only mother Ishita in hiding those emotions.. so she came home - not really.. but she needed to see the family that abandoned her 7 years ago is the same family that she knew and grew up with.. what shocked her is no, its not.. its all broken... her parents separated, her Romi chachu left the house and the little child she wanted for her Ishima is growing up with a mother she despised and not only that she doesn't even know who her real mother is.. the bond that pulled her towards Pihu is so genuine it is her love for her mother that extended to her sister and big sister protectiveness kicked in real hard that she will not see any harm done to her sister the one she wanted for her mother to have..
but one thing Ruhi is sure about is her family's love for her.. it didn't change..

and in a way both Ruhi and Ishita are unlucky when it came to Pihu.. Ruhi wanted her for her mother and Ishita wanted her for her Ruhi.. she is so contented with Ruhi and Adi.. but this baby is for Ruhi only... but fate really played cruelly with them.. the one both wanted for each other became the reason for their separation..
Ruhi is determined to pull the family that was lost 7 years ago for her to come back to and she wanted all back.. what made her angry is the realization that her parents are playing a fake relation to get her back to them.. but she also knows her mother as well as her father.. she questioned their love.. because for her if they love each other they can't be living separately.. also she questioned her fathers love for her mother.. how could he propose to Shagun - SHAGUN and not only that he almost married her.. this she couldn't take it.. and she knows since this act of her father once she comes back her mother is going to leave.. again she wants her mother and father not Shagun and father..

so she can't melt.. she has to play tough.. she has to show hatred.. that too towards her mother.. because she knows the one person who can never quit is her mother.. so she had to push and push hard.. if she says she will not stay with them and wants to go to Nidhi she knows what it will do to her mother and father.. especially her mother.. again day before yesterday dinner table when she heard that Ishita is not home she is shown thinking.. because she knows after her declaration to go to Nidhi her mother is not going to rest and she will run from pole to pillar to find a way to keep her with her.. so she striked.. she told them what she wants from them.. still one final test for her parents now Pihu is in the mix.. she had to know she means something to them.. they both accepted.. this is what she wanted..

coming to today, she has no problem to go with her mother for shopping.. she wants to make sure her mother is going to be with her.. when Ruhi wants it she knows how to get it.. i was so upset with her attitude too.. but if she really hates Ishita she could simply tell her to leave but that is not what she wants..

I hope this make sense for you


Maya, thank you.. i feel honored.. that you quoting me.. i appreciate so much..
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Posted: 9 years ago
#13
@ishrafan_us...

hi raji.. hope i took ur name right..

i jst loved ur take on RUHI..
n i also cant hate her.. she isnt doin gud by her words..
calling her mother wid name.. n alos hurling accusitions at her..
bt i stil cant hate her.. bcz wat al is cumin our of her is jst her pain talking..
her pain of being away frm her mother ishima.. her father n also a loving family.. bhalals n iyers..
her pain of being tortured physically mentally.. working brutually.. a gender change act... wat nt...

so i jst cant hate her..
n im glad u r dere to portray her feelings so beutifully.

thank u ...👏

bt i do disagree wid ur take on raman..
bcz i didnt find his comment of mother teresa in wrng way..
for me.. it ws jst a normal one.. nthin much..
jst a one-liner he usually puts on..
bcz it didnt strike him dat she cud b in danger too..
bt d moment doubt raised by romi.. he got alerted..

n yes i too didnt liked d way he asked shagun to take ruhi away..
a big turn off... bt wat to do..

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: swatica

@ishrafan_us...


hi raji.. hope i took ur name right..

i jst loved ur take on RUHI..
n i also cant hate her.. she isnt doin gud by her words..
calling her mother wid name.. n alos hurling accusitions at her..
bt i stil cant hate her.. bcz wat al is cumin our of her is jst her pain talking..
her pain of being away frm her mother ishima.. her father n also a loving family.. bhalals n iyers..
her pain of being tortured physically mentally.. working brutually.. a gender change act... wat nt...

so i jst cant hate her..
n im glad u r dere to portray her feelings so beutifully.

thank u ...👏

bt i do disagree wid ur take on raman..
bcz i didnt find his comment of mother teresa in wrng way..
for me.. it ws jst a normal one.. nthin much..
jst a one-liner he usually puts on..
bcz it didnt strike him dat she cud b in danger too..
bt d moment doubt raised by romi.. he got alerted..

n yes i too didnt liked d way he asked shagun to take ruhi away..
a big turn off... bt wat to do..

Swati.. 🤗thank you for liking it.. Right now Ruhi is most misunderstood character but me being a mother (not insulting any mother) i do understand her..

Also about Raman, no I'm not trying to diminish him in any way, but what I was trying to say was he was in his normal day to day thing to taunt in a loving way.. because he knows that and also he told Ruhi that Ishita would never leave her alone..but his worry for her makes him speak in that manner.. that's all.. see for me he is already back to his normal self of just chiding her where in fact lot more is at stake between them.. that's all.

But, thank you for liking it..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayasundar


Hi Sunita,

I agree to you about Shagun becoming more whiter because so many tracks there were indication that Shagun is going to turn negative but by the end of the each track she become more whiter so my guess would be this track also will be like that.

Your right also about Shagun behaving like Raman wife. I hated the fact that they ruined signature IshRa eye talk by making Raman and Shagun talk through the eyes today.

Regarding filing police complaint. YHM CV will follow logic if it is related to IshRa you have to wait 24 hours before filing a compliant and on top of it, it looks like only Raman is believing something happened to Ishita other are thinking she has gone by herself so that Ruhi could stay with them so they don't want to file a complaint for two reason

1. Ishita will get in trouble for playing with the law
2. Ruhi will leave them once Ishita is back





@bold - True Maya. I was really not able to take this part yesterday and do not understand the need for this. IMO, Ruhi is no more a kid who doesn't know anything. There was no real need of these gestures, that too to shagun to take her inside. Very disappointing. Just my opinion. Do not know if I make sense.
Edited by priyadarshini.r - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ishrafan_us

Todays epi is good.. mainly few people really stood out;

Romi - post leap Romi I am loving this guy.. the character growth CVS have shown in both Romi and Adi in a not so carefully carved manner turned out to be so beautiful. He is the black sheep of the family hiding under his brother's shadow sort of good for nothing .. but has a good heart when it came to the family.. 7 years ago he severed his relationship with his brother and family over a very severe accusation.. though heart breaking it did good for him.. There is no better teacher than life.. but he found his foot in the world and achieved big.. to achieve that he did what he is best at.. through not so legal means.. but that is what he is.. (just like Shagun leaving Raman is the best thing that ever happened to him though it came with a price but he pushed his boundaries to become what he is with what he is good at - through legal means).. but what is amazing is Romi who is irresponsible pre leap became very responsible to stand up to his brother whom he used treat as a God, questioned his decision about marrying Ishita. Bravo Romi.. and his question was straight no mincing words as he also knew both his brother and Bhabhi to whom he have immense respect.. is his brother marrying Ishita to show off or for real.. made me tear up.. because post leap Romi understood Ishita more than post leap Raman. is it becasue both of these are scarred by Raman.. don't know.. but his fear was genuine for that woman with whom he hardly spent any time definitely not as much as time he spent with his brother. but a great character growth..

both brother bonding is good..

Mihika - the one character bashed and ridiculed but she is one rooted person and Avantika definitely making her mark as Mihika.. i am actually falling in love with her character.. Mihika verma is unique in her own way, but Avantika definitely is winning my heart.. her bond with Adi is wonderful.. and today the way she spoke with Adi shows her pain for her sister as well as her sister's son who is hurting and scared of loosing his mother.. but the way she spoke to him about his wrong doing and Adi listening to her and apologizing to Mani is so heart touching..

Ruhi - God.. this kid is hurting.. hurting beyond words and she is so insecure.. insecure about her future.. think about it.. yes she is mis understanding and drawing her own conclusions and blaming her mother pretty much at every turn of the events.. after all she is a 14 years old who grew up in a very abusive environment. What she is looking for is security and love not just from anyone but from her mother.. she again wants to be the apple of the eye for her mother.. actually made me cry for her.. yes, she is coming off as a very rude and disrespectful by calling her mother by name.. I get it.. but that's her mother and she has every right to lash on her for leaving her with the devil.. so.. no i will not look at Ruhi in the wrong light.. no matter what.. because i am actually seeing her pain.. so think about it.. who is going to loose and loose big if Ishita and Raman are not married.. Raman he has his family with him and his Pihu whom he dotes on is with him.. whether he is going to be happy or not is the question but he will not be physically tortured for sure.. Adi - he is still going to be with his family, Ishita already resigned to her fate also can live but what about Ruhi? Can she go back and live with that evil woman? can she again go through that physical torture and no love.. that is why she is crying and pushing and making sure that they heard her.. if she didn't do that do we know that Raman will again think of marrying Ishita.. no..

today when she was confronting Raman and giving ultimatum she was actually crying.. that she will go to Nidhi for ever.. for her if Ishita choose not to marry Raman then it is end of everything for Ruhi.. if she really want to go to Nidhi what is stopping her really? even today she said she will wait until Ishita comes back.. that actually made me laugh.. bad me.. but I am acutally seeing her pain that if her mother who thinks more about others than herself decides to do drama to delay Ruhi going to Nidhi but not really stopping it for whatever she is thinking is right.. think about Ruhi pain..

Shagun - i will really wait until she shows something or some feeling that I can understand.. if she is playing a game and that is really dirty to the point she doesn't care for Ruhi.. i really hate CVS for that.. bacause i get Shagun.. she can never love anyone other than herself.. she already wrote off Adi and Ruhi as Ishita's kids.. and they do feel the same.. Pihu - really who is Pihu for her when she can write off her kids? Pihu is her ticket to get to Raman.. does she really love Raman? nope.. i don't think so.. the only person who can love Raman is Ishita and that too with all his good and bad.. it's a whole package deal for her.. but for Shagun - she wanted Raman - 20 years back Raman for whom she is the sun, moon and the world.. that's it.. she wanted to feel special and only Raman can do that.. that is it.. she wants Ishita's place in Raman's life.. but for that she going to the length of harming her own daughter or a small child is insane..

Raman - again this man i don't get him at all sometimes.. today when she was missing his first reaction was he is upset - upset that she is doing some samaj seva.. for me Raman clearly didn't understand Ishita.. if Ishita's good heart helped him he is happy but if not he is very upset.. when he told Ruhi that Ishita would not leave her alone and go some where I liked it, but he just blew it for me in 2 seconds blaming her for her being good or trying to be mother Theresa.. he should know above all others that Ishita is anything but irresponsible.. but he is back to his taunting mode.. only when Romi expressed his concern for Ishita he got panicked.. not done Raman Bhalla.. not yet..

to be honest i hated Raman eye talk with Shagun today.. when Ruhi was again lashing out..

towards the end he said that if anything happens to Ishita that he will die.. that is true.. may be his redemption is starting.. but i will wait.. not going to believe in Shagun whiteness/ blackness or Raman redemption.. until I see them..

Maya, loved your take... Regarding Adi.. he hated Alia calling his Ishima as Amma.. you know how he loves.. one thing I have to say is Raman's kids got Raman's genes when it comes to love.. it is obsession for them.. be it Ruhi or Adi.. they are so possessive about their mother.. Adi just like Ruhi will loose his cool if he thinks he is going to loose his mother... so him lashing out i'm ok with it.. and I don't think Mani took it wrong either..



hope i am making sense in what i am putting down.. thanks for reading..


Hi Raji,

As usual very good analysis of every character. Whenever I get mad with Ruhi character your analysis of Ruhi puts the scene in a different light for me. Thank you for that.

Regarding Raman we cannot expect a overnight change him. He is taking baby steps towards his redemption so today without anyone promoting he stood up for Ishita against Ruhi when he said that Ishita would not leave Ruhi alone and come that is a milestone for his character after post-leap that is the first time Ishita Raman showed his presence I am hoping by the end of this track Raman would be fully back.

Regarding Adi I knew Mani did not misunderstand him but I was a bit upset because I never thought this character would behave like that he is always calm and composed seeing him loose his cool and shout like that at a person without their fault just reminded me of all the abuses Raman and Ruhi are/were hurling at Ishita which was hard far me to digest but then his sorry did make it up for it but when I think about it now this scene is more for Aliya to misunderstand Adi when he falls in love with her but she would be thinking about his rude behavior because Adi did the apologizing only to Mani over phone and Aliya was not present but when he was insulting she was there.

Regarding quoting you for me if it makes sense I usually quote people.



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


@bold - True Maya. I was really not able to take this part yesterday and do not understand the need for this. IMO, Ruhi is no more a kid who doesn't know anything. There was no real need of these gestures, that too to shagun to take her inside. Very disappointing. Just my opinion. Do not know if I make sense.


Hi Priyadarshini,

Yes that was needed at all because I don't see the need for them to hide Ishita is missing in front of Ruhi she is not a small kid who need not know about her mother missing. I really thought he was signalling Mihir but when the answer came back from Shagun I was pretty much pissed.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shagun acting all mahaan and interfering in all the matters is irritating ...
& upar se everyone praising her...

They couldn't show a single scene where Raman regrets his impulsiveness and asking Shagun to marry him but they can show ki Raman is indebted to Shagun...yeah..right..
Cvs kya hume dikhayi nahi dera kya aap ka game plan...

& that eye talk...i thought its was editors ka kamal...they showed mihir raman and when raman signaled they showed shagun responding with her god knows what expression...but if they sach me want Sharam ka eye talk then vo yhm vunhe mubharak..

upar se Ruhi has become more irritating..she calls papa,shagun mamma but ISHITA...till now she didn't once call Shagun as SHAGUN..ok..shagun is no one to her ..I agree but can't she call Ishita as Ishita ji atleast...iss rate mein jaye toh viewers se Ruhi ko sympathy nahi nafrat milega...

yeh kidnapping Shagun ka plan kisi tarah nahi dikh raha hai...if nidhi and ashok already planned it then where does shagun fit in..if shagun meets nidhi and begs her to reveal ishita's identity...then they can change the name "ye hai shagun ki achayi" and be done with it...mein pak chuka hun...shagun negative banegi banegi sunke..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Off...
Really..

Adi love story to start.. Raman to turn love guru... while there is no news for ishita or ruhi decision...
In this time.. where ruhi harness to ishita and her decision to go back to nidhi ishita being kidnapped... there r showing adi love story... oh god...
Shagun phir se maxi white hoga ye ka...


She became more mahan. In saving ishita... when this new olv in regards to adi seeing aliya came... shagun still in positive mode in Balla house... ishita missing... 😕

What about Raman redemption and ishra remarriage

All are confusing..😕 where this is heading...😡
Can anyone care to explain..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: annvi


Shagun acting all mahaan and interfering in all the matters is irritating ...
& upar se everyone praising her...

They couldn't show a single scene where Raman regrets his impulsiveness and asking Shagun to marry him but they can show ki Raman is indebted to Shagun...yeah..right..
Cvs kya hume dikhayi nahi dera kya aap ka game plan...

& that eye talk...i thought its was editors ka kamal...they showed mihir raman and when raman signaled they showed shagun responding with her god knows what expression...but if they sach me want Sharam ka eye talk then vo yhm vunhe mubharak..

upar se Ruhi has become more irritating..she calls papa,shagun mamma but ISHITA...till now she didn't once call Shagun as SHAGUN..ok..shagun is no one to her ..I agree but can't she call Ishita as Ishita ji atleast...iss rate mein jaye toh viewers se Ruhi ko sympathy nahi nafrat milega...

yeh kidnapping Shagun ka plan kisi tarah nahi dikh raha hai...if nidhi and ashok already planned it then where does shagun fit in..if shagun meets nidhi and begs her to reveal ishita's identity...then they can change the name "ye hai shagun ki achayi" and be done with it...mein pak chuka hun...shagun negative banegi banegi sunke..


Tat eye talk disgusted me to the core...if Shagun was this understanding that she could even understand his slightest eye movement then they wouldn't have separated in the first place..! This shows how desperate Cv's are to prove her innocent n gain sympathy but in turn ppl are just hating more forget about empathizing with her... There is no need for her to go with Raman to meet the judge... Either appa or adi would have gone... Even romi but y Shagun? Shouldn't she be the support system n consoling the elders of bhalla n iyer family instead of clinging to Raman n acting all concerned? Strange...! About that court orders why didn't she inform anyone in the before hand... The custody ll b given to Raman n Ishita so who is she to decide when the papers has to be submitted? She chose to bring the papers on the exact moment when Ishita went missing, so that others could blame ishu if ruhi decides to go away from them... In short this women is playing dirty for her own selfish deeds n even ready to send ruhi back to that hell... According to her if ruhi is not der then the second option would be pihu so rightly she comes into the picture n still waiting for an opportunity to complete that pheras... This women disgusts me...

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