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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hello. So I am a YHM/IshRa/Raman/Ishita/KP/DT fan. I made this id to make this post, and only this post. This is not a criticism of any of the actors (as they do what is written in the script), or characters. My complaint is towards the writers/directors/creatives. I am honestly really worried about posting this here, as I do not want to initiate a fight, but something triggered and disturbed me so bad yesterday, so I could not stay silent.

I have seen domestic violence up close. I have also seen physical abuse, emotional abuse, and mental abuse. None of those are romantic. They are hurtful, and scarring, and leave marks on the victim for life.

A man (father/son/brother/friend/boyfriend/husband/stranger) getting frustrated over something, and attacking a woman (again, his daughter/mother/sister/friend/girlfriend/wife/stranger) is so very common. There are two main reasons for this:

1. Men are taught to be aggressive and to not display their emotions from a very small age.
2. Women are taught to be docile, submissive, and tolerant, no matter what is thrown at them.

We have all seen that advertisement in which a little boy is always told, "ladke rote nahin", and he ends up not crying, but physically abusing his wife as a grownup.

Let me come to my point. Raman is a very very complex character. With a lot of pain in his past, lot of insecurities. He has been left behind by people he loved an unbearable number of times. And if there is one person who understands all of this, it is Ishita.

That does NOT make Ishita a potential receptor of his frustrations. Especially when he takes it out on her by strangling her. Especially not without his realizing he did something absolutely horrible. Especially not without Ishita reacting negatively towards it. Especially not with Ishita hugging him and consoling right after.

A woman is not tasked with the job to make better the man in her life. We all think she is. I used to think so too. Because we have all been conditioned to think so. But it is not. We are not sent down to earth on a heavenly mission to bear everything thrown at us, if it makes the men in our lives a little less unhappy. And if you are in a relation where you have to do so, RUN, because that is an abusive relationship.

I love KP. He is an actor with brilliance evident in every scene he does. Yesterday's breakdown was no different. And I love Raman. I have always loved Raman. He is a very real character, one we have all seen at some point in our lives (of course, not as romantic and definitely not as hot). So I beg, BEG the creatives to not make a mess out of his character. That strangling was unnecessary, and did not contribute one bit to the plot or the IshRa love story. He could have easily punched the wall if the purpose was to make him react physically towards the news. And Ishita should NOT have been shown acceptive of this behavior. The message this sends out is really, really bad. There were a hundred different ways to go about this, and this was not one of them. And if you think that it is not that deep, and that it's just a show, you are not aware of just how much media influences a person's behavior and outlook.

I know creatives read IF. I know they have taken suggestions and plotlines from this forum. So please PLEASE if someone is reading this, please do not make such a mistake again. Your show has a largely female fan base. They need to know that it is not okay to be abused. Even if the love the person abusing them.

(I understand if people feel they should not comment here. So I repeat, this is NOT a criticism against the characters or the actors. It is against the creatives, and the largely casual attitude generally taken against abuse and violence at home. Believe me, there is nothing casual about it.)

Thank you for reading. Stay blessed.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Brilliant👏..
This strangling was the most horrible and ugly physical attack till date in YHM (Though there have been some comic types light physical attack types scenes) (what if before he came back to sense, she would've fainted out of not being able to breath properly?). I agree with the fact also that Ishita should've let him know that his anger could kill her again, his anger doesn't allow him to hurt her physically no matter what , though not that time, but later. But, we know the CVs, they won't show anything such.. esp. from Ishita. She is meant to take all the bullshits of everyone, esp. Raman, which makes me wonder what type of woman the writer of this show is🤢!!! On one hand, they show Ishita beating Raman with broom in the name of woman empowerment or whatever in a comic note, on the other hand, they show Ishita taking all his abuses, his one attempt of molestation and the last is the strangling depicting wives should not have no self respect if they love their husbands😲.
Not only the physical attacks from Raman (though his ones are serious and always is shown in serious context), but any types of physical attack even though those are shown as funny, should not be shown by the CVs.
Hope, any one from the creative team read your post.
Edited by DivianTanz_Divz - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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brilliant post
I am nt at all in favor of raman physical abuse yesterday or emotional abuse 7 years before
I also want ishita to teach a lesson to raman after raman calls her back in his life stating,"I still love you and wl always love you bt I can't stay with you anymore. U hv given me the scars and the marks and that wl always stay with me.I love you bt can't forgive youfr whatever you have done with me"
and then leave.

ps.:I know this comment is hurtful bt this is the girl in me speaking. No one would like to stay with a man like raman is being portrayed.since this is a fiction,we still want ishra together bt in reality I would never want raman fr ishita.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Excellent post !
Well said !
Sadly this is what YHM has come to .
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: justforapost

Hello. So I am a YHM/IshRa/Raman/Ishita/KP/DT fan. I made this id to make this post, and only this post. This is not a criticism of any of the actors (as they do what is written in the script), or characters. My complaint is towards the writers/directors/creatives. I am honestly really worried about posting this here, as I do not want to initiate a fight, but something triggered and disturbed me so bad yesterday, so I could not stay silent.

I have seen domestic violence up close. I have also seen physical abuse, emotional abuse, and mental abuse. None of those are romantic. They are hurtful, and scarring, and leave marks on the victim for life.

A man (father/son/brother/friend/boyfriend/husband/stranger) getting frustrated over something, and attacking a woman (again, his daughter/mother/sister/friend/girlfriend/wife/stranger) is so very common. There are two main reasons for this:

1. Men are taught to be aggressive and to not display their emotions from a very small age.
2. Women are taught to be docile, submissive, and tolerant, no matter what is thrown at them.

We have all seen that advertisement in which a little boy is always told, "ladke rote nahin", and he ends up not crying, but physically abusing his wife as a grownup.

Let me come to my point. Raman is a very very complex character. With a lot of pain in his past, lot of insecurities. He has been left behind by people he loved an unbearable number of times. And if there is one person who understands all of this, it is Ishita.

That does NOT make Ishita a potential receptor of his frustrations. Especially when he takes it out on her by strangling her. Especially not without his realizing he did something absolutely horrible. Especially not without Ishita reacting negatively towards it. Especially not with Ishita hugging him and consoling right after.

A woman is not tasked with the job to make better the man in her life. We all think she is. I used to think so too. Because we have all been conditioned to think so. But it is not. We are not sent down to earth on a heavenly mission to bear everything thrown at us, if it makes the men in our lives a little less unhappy. And if you are in a relation where you have to do so, RUN, because that is an abusive relationship.

I love KP. He is an actor with brilliance evident in every scene he does. Yesterday's breakdown was no different. And I love Raman. I have always loved Raman. He is a very real character, one we have all seen at some point in our lives (of course, not as romantic and definitely not as hot). So I beg, BEG the creatives to not make a mess out of his character. That strangling was unnecessary, and did not contribute one bit to the plot or the IshRa love story. He could have easily punched the wall if the purpose was to make him react physically towards the news. And Ishita should NOT have been shown acceptive of this behavior. The message this sends out is really, really bad. There were a hundred different ways to go about this, and this was not one of them. And if you think that it is not that deep, and that it's just a show, you are not aware of just how much media influences a person's behavior and outlook.

I know creatives read IF. I know they have taken suggestions and plotlines from this forum. So please PLEASE if someone is reading this, please do not make such a mistake again. Your show has a largely female fan base. They need to know that it is not okay to be abused. Even if the love the person abusing them.

(I understand if people feel they should not comment here. So I repeat, this is NOT a criticism against the characters or the actors. It is against the creatives, and the largely casual attitude generally taken against abuse and violence at home. Believe me, there is nothing casual about it.)

Thank you for reading. Stay blessed.


Word..👏 very well written..
I have been disturbed seeing the strangulation and it disturbed me to the core..really don't want to comment on the characters or actors.. though actors need to take some social responsibility.. but don't know the freedom or limitations they have.. but I definitely want to blame the writers..
These writers with their misplaced concepts of expressing women empowerment by wife beating husband and husband showing love through abusive behavior should stop.
I have seen domestic abuse and it's not funny. What has been shown in the show is totally wrong.. excess love doesn't and shouldn't end up with abusive behavior.. any kind of abuse emotional , verbal and physical abuse is not good and know the difference to walk away no matter how much you love that person..
This show has been showing lots of unethical, immoral plots in the name of drama without providing a solution.. it's good to show awareness but this show has been anything but empowering people with knowledge..
Think of these Raman excessive abusive behavior towards Ishita
Mihika marrying her alleged rapist
Molesters and attempted murderers walking free
Self defence resulted in murder charges and execution
Kidnapper walks into the court challenging to get the custody rights for his abductee
Court granting the same based on a 14 year old decision
Surrogacy thru deception..
Marital rape

Please don't take me wrong enjoy the show but don't ignore the facts and beware end of the day this is show but based on these inputs or mis interpretations don't ruin life .. stand up for yourself..

Peace out.. please don't try to pick a fight with me.. as I neither bashed nor criticized the characters, actors or who admire them.. just thought of pointing socially wrong messages in the show as this totally the doing of creative.

Once again thank you for writing this..appreciate the thought.
Edited by ishrafan_us - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Very well said ...bt sadly its not the yhm v fell in love with..it has lost logic long back..
Now ishita can call raman janwar..
Raman can call ishita baanjh n sauteli maa.
Ishita can choke her amma to death n scared the hell out of her husband n kids in name of stupid bhoot planning...
Raman can decide surrogacy without ishita's consent..
Ishita can tie him up n scared him to apologise to romi ..beat him with broom even in the name of comedy..
Raman can strangle her in anger...
N the list goes on..
Now everything is ott n only trp matters..
I m totally against these things...bt yhm lost its charm long back..
Dont start ishita v/s raman ...i jst want to point out the things didnt go well with me..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sadly we don't even get any scene that Raman or any anyone else regret what they do. At least we should get raman thinking it wasn't right to strangle Ishita and apologise but we will get nothing.

CVs are the worst when it comes to the leads. No regret, no self respect, we just guess and analyse episodes and scenes to come to our own conclusions.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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nice post i agree😊
in the amazing breakdown scene of raman yesterday if that strangling bit wud have been avoided😕🤢 then impact of the scene wud have been few notches higher😉 as KP otherwise killed dat scene👏 when he cried and broke down in her lap 😭
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shivangi838

nice post i agree😊

in the amazing breakdown scene of raman yesterday if that strangling bit wud have been avoided😕🤢 then impact of the scene wud have been few notches higher😉 as KP otherwise killed dat scene👏 when he cried and broke down in her lap😭



The strangling scene was not needed at all. who would have thought RKB would do this to the women he loves it was in bad taste and unnecessary.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Very well put thoughts and I agree with every words of yours. Let's just keep aside the show, the actors and the characters...what message are the CV's conveying to the outside real world? In the name of drama they're showing insensitive stuffs like surrogacy without one's knowledge, torturing your family(bhoot track), strangulating and hurling abuses in name of anger/love, leaving your just born kid just cuz ur hurt, serious scenes like the one I remember when Raman was mercilessly beaten by Ashok's goon but it was turn into a comedy scene for cheap entertainment..where in real life people who go through this either end up in coma or dies(I remember one uncle of my sis was beaten by Rod on head and he went in coma..he was in coma for several years and later died). There are much more tracks which have been handled by the CVs very poorly..not to forget the topic of infertile..which has been made into a joke..like infertile woman deserves taunts, hatred, and abuses and they have to bear every insults by the society or even by your loved ones. Again I'm not pointing towards any characters or actors here just from a general POV..all this the creatives are showing is extremely insensitive and irrational stuffs in name of drama and to gain money.

NOTE: This is not bashing of any character or actor so some people who thinks this is again some bashing post..it's NOT. So pls I request don't start a fight with me for my honest opinion. Thanks
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Edited by Water_Angel - 9 years ago

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