New longer olv of raman's breakdown & ishgun scene - Page 10

Originally posted by: swatica

it makes sense priya..

bt leaving dese aside..

conitnuity of scens is an imp aspect..

room wud hv been in messed up state if ishgun scene ws after breakdown.

bt it ws al fyn around..

so breakdown is apparently after ishgun scene n ishita nt agreeing to it...

Originally posted by: Zoyamalik2005

Swati and priya, you're making me hope.

If it doesn't happen, I'll blame you both😆

Very valid points. Both your points are always great to read. Even if I really start getting detached from this show, you guys will keep me here. In all honesty you know I'll always look for silver linings😆

Kya karu, aadat se majboor

Originally posted by: swatica

u r right zoya.. nt to hope..

bt dere is sumthng more to it..

in ishra marraige talk.. room ws al tidy.. n nthin ws messy..

if ishra marrg n ishgun scnee ws after raman breakdown dn evrythng around wud hv been messed wid broken mirror..

so keeping conitnuity in mind.. raman breakdown makes sense aftr ishgun scene..

Originally posted by: --mancityfan--

refusing to marry for all the crap raman said or did is different

this clearly is different

Originally posted by: bscorp13

Your point is valid..but nobody has a problem with raman n and ishita addressing the shagun problem...but the dialogues are crappy period. .

And no nobody here wants ishuta to run into raman's arms thinking he loves her...etc..obviously he has a lot of explaining to do. ..but tjhe b issue is why and what is ishita shown telling shagun ...it shows ishita in poor light..I would rather she asked raman to sort hours mess and walk away...rather than playing selfless martyr😕

And no .nobody is melting because of raman's outburst..it's just a few min scene of his pov we have seen in ages.. and yet the next moment tjhe scene holds zero relevance ..like tjhe lift scene..since its as if that never happened .. the way ishuta and shagun seem to be bartering their lives and raman ...and for that as a viewer i think we have a right to blame cvs...

Ideally both ishita and v raman need to do a lot of explaining ..but instead we get to see a 'shagun problem' focussed scene which shows both the leads in poor light..😕

Originally posted by: QueSeraSera

Sigh somethings never change and the constant bashing is one of them

So, because Raman broke a few things, strangled her because he's so upset that he lost control and later broke down into a blubbering mess saying I am alone was alone and will be all alone for these seven years and don't want to be alone again Ishita is supposed to be giddy with excitement and joy, jump at the first chance she gets to marry him?

WOW

And if she doesn't she's mean and awful and what not...

If she did, she's a doormat who has no sense of self-respect and dignity and is coming back at the first chance she got...

How is it possible to please everyone? Hmmm...perhaps the lord alone knows that.

Because humanly that's not possible and Ishita not jumping and being all mushy about becoming Mrs Bhalla again or renewing her vows is completely alright.

If Raman who had two of his kids and his family can proclaim to be alone despite all of this - was Ishita having some ball or at a picnic? Yes she was in Australia but that wasn't exactly a sunshine life too - she was looking after a paraplegic and his wards for him...

Raman has opened up in anger and in tears - but has he once made a genuine effort to ask Ishita why would she stay away from everyone? Yes she was heartbroken when they lost Ruhi but what about Adi and Pihu, her parents and the rest of the family...

Is he even now asking her to come back to him because he still loves her and wants to be with her despite the collossal blunder he committed in sheer anger, jealousy and in a moment of insanity when he proposed Shaggy? Has he asked her about her decision to marry Mani? No. He hasn't.

Like Ruhi pointed out he has 'OPTIONS'... two of them - Ishita and Shagun and he is treating them as such - while he wants to stay the priority...by believing a dumbhead bimbo like Aliya he chose to marry Shagun without any protests and would have also went through with the same had Romi not arrived to stop the marriage by declaring about spotting the lawyer and thereby flickering the hope Ruhi is alive.

He is constantly asking her to do this and that - 'Sirf Ruhi Ke Liye'...even says he would again marry her if it makes his daughter stay back...but in all of this has he once asked her to come back to him for his sake, for her's and for themselves?

Why is then there such a fuss about Ishita being reluctant or her words to Shaggy?

DIdn't Raman himself claim she has no place - not as his wife, the mother of his children and that she is a manhoos even after the leap...in fact even taunted her saying she can't have kids outside the police station though he didn't explicitly use the word Baanjh...

Just because he finally cried is it supposed to make amends for everything?

Is Ishita supposed to magically feel loved and wanted? The man who isn't even revealing to their own child that Ishita is her mother, Ishita is supposed to know from his outburst that just because she is the love of his life and he's miserable without her as she is without him that if she once again marries him things would be alright?

And WHAT is wrong with her question of what about Shagun?

Is Ishita once again supposed to play the man is mine game with Shagun when the man himself made her feel like an outsider time and again? Is she supposed to share the roof with that woman who Raman almost remarried now and be fine with it and come to accept the concept as if they are sister-wives and they belong to some Mormon family?

The very people who are angry at Ishita for having self respect would have called her out on not having any had she agreed to marry him happily at the first chance...

A relationship cannot be made when one person is constantly putting down the other.

Raman is in pain but so is Ishita...and if they have to come together he has to understand that too.

Simply getting back together isn't gonna give them rainbows and unicorns and right now they are in the middle of a mess and if they have to come together then they have to mend the fences, build some bridges and I might come across as some kind of a hater or basher to people but in only constantly putting their Sun Shaggy everywhere they have undermined Raman completely in this track.

Forget reconnecting with Ishita as that is a completely different story, Raman isn't even given any prominence when it comes to Ruhi - he's shown wondering why she would need counseling which was 😲 like dude, seriously you needed that to be spelled out and now his efforts are solely limited to a box full of memories and this silly superman costume thing

Dude, talk to your child...let your youngest know at least that the one she calls didi just because she's older than her is your daughter and in actuality her elder sister even if step...

Raman should be shown actively involved in trying to talk to Ruhi, bond the sisters and all the siblings more closely instead he plays Superman

Frankly the whole plot is so ludicrousit's a joke.

Instead of a child abuse victim who should be given prominence as well as shown suffering from issues ranging from anger to gender identity crisis to a whole load of batshit crazefest we see the meltdown and monologues of the woodface 😳 who feels life is unfair to her because less than 7 weeks of her own daughter coming back from the dead as well as the woman who the mans she almost married is in love with is so much of a trauma to her compared to what that child endured in 7 years day in and out...

Originally posted by: QueSeraSera

Sigh somethings never change and the constant bashing is one of them

So, because Raman broke a few things, strangled her because he's so upset that he lost control and later broke down into a blubbering mess saying I am alone was alone and will be all alone for these seven years and don't want to be alone again Ishita is supposed to be giddy with excitement and joy, jump at the first chance she gets to marry him?

WOW

And if she doesn't she's mean and awful and what not...

If she did, she's a doormat who has no sense of self-respect and dignity and is coming back at the first chance she got...

How is it possible to please everyone? Hmmm...perhaps the lord alone knows that.

Because humanly that's not possible and Ishita not jumping and being all mushy about becoming Mrs Bhalla again or renewing her vows is completely alright.

If Raman who had two of his kids and his family can proclaim to be alone despite all of this - was Ishita having some ball or at a picnic? Yes she was in Australia but that wasn't exactly a sunshine life too - she was looking after a paraplegic and his wards for him...

Raman has opened up in anger and in tears - but has he once made a genuine effort to ask Ishita why would she stay away from everyone? Yes she was heartbroken when they lost Ruhi but what about Adi and Pihu, her parents and the rest of the family...

Is he even now asking her to come back to him because he still loves her and wants to be with her despite the collossal blunder he committed in sheer anger, jealousy and in a moment of insanity when he proposed Shaggy? Has he asked her about her decision to marry Mani? No. He hasn't.

Like Ruhi pointed out he has 'OPTIONS'... two of them - Ishita and Shagun and he is treating them as such - while he wants to stay the priority...by believing a dumbhead bimbo like Aliya he chose to marry Shagun without any protests and would have also went through with the same had Romi not arrived to stop the marriage by declaring about spotting the lawyer and thereby flickering the hope Ruhi is alive.

He is constantly asking her to do this and that - 'Sirf Ruhi Ke Liye'...even says he would again marry her if it makes his daughter stay back...but in all of this has he once asked her to come back to him for his sake, for her's and for themselves?

Why is then there such a fuss about Ishita being reluctant or her words to Shaggy?

DIdn't Raman himself claim she has no place - not as his wife, the mother of his children and that she is a manhoos even after the leap...in fact even taunted her saying she can't have kids outside the police station though he didn't explicitly use the word Baanjh...

Just because he finally cried is it supposed to make amends for everything?

Is Ishita supposed to magically feel loved and wanted? The man who isn't even revealing to their own child that Ishita is her mother, Ishita is supposed to know from his outburst that just because she is the love of his life and he's miserable without her as she is without him that if she once again marries him things would be alright?

And WHAT is wrong with her question of what about Shagun?

Is Ishita once again supposed to play the man is mine game with Shagun when the man himself made her feel like an outsider time and again? Is she supposed to share the roof with that woman who Raman almost remarried now and be fine with it and come to accept the concept as if they are sister-wives and they belong to some Mormon family?

The very people who are angry at Ishita for having self respect would have called her out on not having any had she agreed to marry him happily at the first chance...

A relationship cannot be made when one person is constantly putting down the other.

Raman is in pain but so is Ishita...and if they have to come together he has to understand that too.

Simply getting back together isn't gonna give them rainbows and unicorns and right now they are in the middle of a mess and if they have to come together then they have to mend the fences, build some bridges and I might come across as some kind of a hater or basher to people but in only constantly putting their Sun Shaggy everywhere they have undermined Raman completely in this track.

Forget reconnecting with Ishita as that is a completely different story, Raman isn't even given any prominence when it comes to Ruhi - he's shown wondering why she would need counseling which was 😲 like dude, seriously you needed that to be spelled out and now his efforts are solely limited to a box full of memories and this silly superman costume thing

Dude, talk to your child...let your youngest know at least that the one she calls didi just because she's older than her is your daughter and in actuality her elder sister even if step...

Raman should be shown actively involved in trying to talk to Ruhi, bond the sisters and all the siblings more closely instead he plays Superman

Frankly the whole plot is so ludicrousit's a joke.

Instead of a child abuse victim who should be given prominence as well as shown suffering from issues ranging from anger to gender identity crisis to a whole load of batshit crazefest we see the meltdown and monologues of the woodface 😳 who feels life is unfair to her because less than 7 weeks of her own daughter coming back from the dead as well as the woman who the mans she almost married is in love with is so much of a trauma to her compared to what that child endured in 7 years day in and out...

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r

I agree Swati, might be possible that we get the breakdown after Ishgun Scene.