It's just insulting to couples struggling with infertility

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Star plus has been promoting this on their official Twitter handle :

https://twitter.com/StarPlus/status/645220764711432192

and then you show a husband misleading his wife into consenting for surrogacy which she has no idea about..and his ex prescreening the surrogate? Have you truly lost it in the ploy to gain TRP? No wonder you're losing in the TRP game..such regressive ideas about sensitive issues like infertility, surrogacy ..you guys have made a mockery of all the couples who are going through those challenges. Nor everything is a TRP game, as leading channels and production houses need to have some social responsibility. It infuriates me as a woman to see these kinds of ideas in the name of fiction...thing is that even fiction especially ones that are broadcast to women of different educational levels, need to be bound within the boundaries of decency. A husband misleading his wife to consent in surrogate baby ..FOR HER...Is as crass as it gets. Nayi Soch my foot!! And #Hopeneverdies...is a big joke! ( this is what I tweeted SP and BT.. really don't have it in me to write again..)


Just tell me what right does Shagun hav to talk to the surrogate, and be in the room when Raman meets the surrogate...this is NOT her baby...This is freaking Ishita's child with Raman...so WHY was she there? If this is NOT giving over importance to a character, then what is?


Even TRP drama needs some boundaries...




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Posted: 9 years ago
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I posted this else where but am including it here.

I don't care about characters right now...just the regressive insensitive cruel CVs/SP/BT

This show, from day 1, had a focus on infertility. Ishita was ostracized for her inability to conceive & women watched this show because they could relate.

So how is it appropriate or empathetic to show a woman who was taunted as a "baanj" for years become pregnant almost immediately after her marriage consummated. What was showed is that her infertility (which was explained to us as tubal scarring) was CURED by sex.

Fine - viewers digested it as a miracle...but then women who have infertility issues often suffer miscarriages. She was not shown as her having a miscarriage due to her ailment...but it was showen that her miscarriage occured after an accident, that could affect any woman.

In a span of 2 weeks this show undid the infertility tag of Ishita's & now she is denying surrogacy not because it doesn't alleviate her of the "baanj" tag but because she doesn't want to give false hope. Should she not be given more time to introspect on what this means to her as a women or do they not want to offer her that depth?

And if that wasn't the worst...they have shown the husband who wanted his wife to experience a 9 month pregnancy go BEHIND HER BACK to try for surrogacy. She didn't go for any treatments, but he made the decision for HER to use the eggs. This is a COUPLE's decision that has been descricated.

Now think of the women who spend $100000 of dollars on TREATMENTS (not tests) to get pregnant. Think of the women who suffer multiple miscarriages due to reproductive tract issues. Think of the women who commit suicide or suffer severe depression because of the title "baanj." The people involved with this show may not have seen this in real life but I have worked with many women in this situation. This situation is soul piercing for couples.

The recent handling of surrogacy & the medical profession yet again sheds a horrible light on the entire process.

YHM is not handing out hope to the women who watched this show because they were in Ishita's place. it's also not handing out handing out realism about the struggles an infertile woman faces when trying getting pregnant.

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Everything appears to be just for TRPs and in the process it looks like people involved have forgotten empathy towards fellow humans. I understand drama is needed for shows because I've watched tons of desi shows. But for a topic that was a tenant of the show (along with infidelity, second chances, and nature vs nurture)...it's sad to see it turned into a sick joke.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I am posting the same rant. Sorry about that G 😭


A show which respected love, relations has dipped to the point when it feels so insulting to watch the crap as a woman. Gone were the days when woman were just treated as child bearing machines and stay devoted at the feet of your husband but this show today telecasted ridiculousness that would piss you off in a second. Each of us had one particular reason why we got addicted to the show. I feel so dumb typing how this show all started and on what premises all over again.

What started as "Sirf Ruhi ke Lilye" blossomed in to love between two hearts. It is really endearing and heartwarming to watch the love between Ishitha and Raman. Both have faults and weakness but it is their love every time that has helped them after every mishap. He has done blunders, broken promises and had acted ignorant. She has hidden things and had done unimaginable things in the name of family and goodness but somewhere both accepted their mistakes in the end and got together as IshRa which has made them special. It's this love they share between each other that has kept me addicted till date. Even in future, if you going to give me IshRa sweet romantic moments you will find me mushy, cos that's me.

But today I am really gutted to watch this show. If this is all for IshRa baby then why is that Ishitha not involved. Glad it is Raman as a father but what role does Shagun play here that she gets to witness all of it. Oh well, people can claim Ishitha hid the truth about Rinki but she had it momentarily buried within her in the context of Simmi missing. Raman did try convincing her for this who surrogacy procedure but she was more than happy with Ruhi and Adi. She kept declining him politely and tried explaining her in the best way possible. Seeing the love between the two of them today really awes me but today even this love disgusted me. The day he got intimate with her for Adi's custody was totally a different thing but today seeing his love for her and yes the statement "I can't live without you" is beautiful. But the hug followed by signatures that she is not even aware of is even heart breaking. How would you call a surrogate baby as a surprise when the mother of the kid does not know that all of this is happening? Even if Ishitha gets to know about all of this, how will she even be able to trust any of this? I might sound bossy but no relationship is strong that you hide something as big as surrogacy and expect your spouse to take in the surprise with happiness even though it's for his /her good.

How come the person who has no relation with IshRa has so much involvement when ishitha does not have? What kind of a doctor is Manoj to have some third person as Shagun when you are dealing with a patient just because the third person wants the patient in this case IshRa to have a happy life?

This episode really insulted the doctors who work hard on their patients who come with a hope of having a child in their life. Insulted women who become surrogate mothers for women who can't bear their own child. Also insulted the marital relationship between couples whose relationship has trust as its base even before love.

Edited by Aru.Divan - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I can't begin to tell you how much I agree Gan. It's disgusting to make fun of such sensitive issues like infertility and surrogacy by using it to gain numbers. I hope for once YHM numbers fall down to such a level that there's no scope to rise from. The channel and creatives deserve for making a joke out of woman and the issues they go through, for mocking a marriage by repeatedly bringing in the ex for every progress they need to make in their relation. How cheap that she was the one who made the consummation happen, and now even surrogacy? This is forcing Shagun down our throats because there's honestly no reason for her to be there anymore.

I don't even know what to say anymore.. I am just disgusted by the channel's insensitivity towards these issues. I agree they run a business and don't care two hoots. But I hope the viewers don't give them the pleasure to think they were right in thinking.. people can watch and digest anything.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Gan

Agree with your rant!!! I am so mad right now..

Television is an excellent medium to educate but why is it that Indian Television never really evolves to do this..why is it that they always fall into the TRP trap and digress! Its a pity that the channel and the Indian audience allows these regressive story lines to be shown!!!

I started watching this show because of its mature storyline theme and because it seemed initially not to be a typical saas - bahu, rona dhona drama and had strong male and femal characters...Initially it was truly the nayi soch that pulled me in besides the chemistry of the leads and acting prowess of the ensemble cast!

I'll probably add more to the post when my anger dies down! Just too upset, sad and extremely pissed right now!

Nina
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Can anyone make graphics mocking SP's conviction (aka PR gimmick) to "nayi soch"?
Bc this is pathetic soch. Not regressive. Just pathetic even if the ending is fine.

How can anyone find enjoyment in this?

I'm just so disgusted even though we knew this was coming
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-

Can anyone make graphics mocking SP's conviction (aka PR gimmick) to "nayi soch"?

Bc this is pathetic soch. Not regressive. Just pathetic even if the ending is fine.

How can anyone find enjoyment in this?

I'm just so disgusted even though we knew this was coming



Krishy, Sp or Maiyaa ??

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi Gan,
First of all sorry I want be unres my post from yesterday because I am no mood to even think about how powerful KP and DT acting yesterday was.

I am cursing myself for investing my time in this story

After almost 7 years of not watching any soap I curse myself the day I saw this soap. I kind of feel in love with this soap because it didn't go the generic route where the female lead is always correct, the male lead always dominating, vamps always trying to kill the female lead, female lead takes the blame for everyone mistake, MIL always torturing the female lead so I gave up on watching the soap.

This was totally different here they were 3 broken souls who were brought together by destiny and they healed each other with love without even saying the words they stood for each other as support and the side character story was also realatable it showed a new idea that soap could be different too and people would like it because they were getting good TRP. I think they were at no 2 position even though they were airing at 11 clock in the night because of their good story line.

Once the time changed to 7:30 in the race to be first they kind of lost the story and now this YHM is popular just because of the lead chemistry if it would have been other actor/actress playing the role of Ishita/Raman I guess the day they changed the story line they would have lost the trp race and would have been out of Top 10.

Why cannot they figure the leads are IshRA and not SHAGUN why is she needed to be involved when it is ISHITA/RAMAN baby when the Ishita itself doesn't know she is having a baby how can her husband ex know all the details about the baby. I was not even happy with how they got to consumption SHAGUN had to push them why could they have not shown it because they were in love with each other.

What type of a doctor is Manoj does he not have any ethics. He keeps sharing confidentail information about a patient to a third party if it is real life I would have sued his ass off and made sure his license is cancelled

What type of husband is Raman why they keep butchering his character why have they made him insensitive all of sudden the reason he wanted the baby in the first place is for Ishita to feels all the joys of experiencing the motherhood in the nine months while she was carrying how is this baby going to be different from Adi and Ruhi except it will have the same genes as Ishita/ Raman if they wanted to show the baby like this they could have gotten her married to Subbu itself she could have gladly donated her egg and Subbu could have donated the sperm and Lakshmi could have been asked to be surrogate mother and vola in 9 months Ishita/Subbu child at least then she would not have lost on her first love.

I think I am going mad thinking started to write about Raman and ended up writing about Ishita/Subbu child I am that mad I cannot think properly.

I as a woman would have lost trust in my husband if he took a major decision in our lives without involving me. I would still love him because love is unconditional but the trust would be gone and for every little thing I would be more cautious finally that would result in the love turning into hatred.

I am so mad at them for making a mockery of a sensitive issues why don't they understand how hard it is for a woman who is going through this difficulty in conceiving and people perceiving her not to be a complete woman.

I am not even sure whether I made any sense but I am so angry today I want this week the TRP should fall so much that they are not even in Top 10.



Edited by mayasundar - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Totally agree with all of you. I am too caught up with my negative emotions to even think clearly.

No matter what the outcome, BT and SP have seriously destroyed a track that should have been handled with care and sensitivity. A mockery of a track and also the show. 😔




Edited by Boo2014 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aru.Divan



Krishy, Sp or Maiyaa ??

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sp bc BT was always this way & arent afraid to admit it. Anyone who learns a show is BT (some later than sooner) generally knows it will be amoral. SP just kept them in more check bc they were ruling the charts with safer less dramatic stuff

Now that they are losing badly, they are letting BT spread their normal filth to garner TRs

It's SP who claims to have nayi soch but in reality doesn't come close

Money >>>> morality/ethics/empathy

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