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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Gan, Thanks for creating a space to rant.

The episode was a big WT* to me. Such a big let-down after Saturday.

I haven't watched the full episode, just the first scene..read the rest in the updates. I feel so confused and lost with this show. I feel like a fool for being so emotionally invested in it. The CVs seem to be clueless about which direction to go. We viewers keep analyzing each episode, each scene, every dialogue and gesture of Raman's and Ishita's in depth, whereas I seriously doubt that the makers even mean to show all those nuances that some of the wonderful writers here point out. I sometimes think that its only the viewers' analyses here that gives so much more meaning and depth to the scenes, inspired by the awesome performances by the actors. Such carelessness in writing dialogues..it changes the whole characterization of the person. These inconsistencies have been glaringly obvious since the beginning of this year, like Krishy pointed out on Saturday.

The argument started off very well..just like couples normally fight over their children, very realistic. Raman pointed out how wrong Ishita was, Ishita tried explaining that she was worried about Adi, they both argued, and suddenly they went off on a tangent about men v/s women. Ishita generalizing men saying they all are egotistic and useless people, and Raman pointing out to her that not all women are angels giving Shagun's reference.

I cannot believe Raman said to Ishita "Tum maa hi nahin ho, achcha hona tho dur ki baat hai". Is there a reason for making him look so callous and shallow and say such things over and over again? Are these to foreshadow what's coming? Otherwise, what's the point of it all?

I don't understand why they have to do this everytime, they bring up such relevant issues and sujects which begin with a bang and then lose steam and direction midway, only to rush to its end pathetically..each and every track! Are these writers really so devoid of ideas or talent?

Ishita never realized her fault in the camera matter, Raman got away with speaking the most insenstive and hurtful thing to Ishita, they both go their separate ways, Ishita heads to the SPA while Raman settles for a drink? They both clearly don't realize the extent or gravity of their behaviour, or are affected by the other's. So why am I?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I've decided to look at it this way: the writers' only goal is the momentary drama of the scene. I think what throws me off are the performances, KP and DT are so sooo good they portray even the invisible layers. They convey how their characters should react to those words, whether or not it's in the script. Ishita's hurt, Raman's guilt are visible and it affects us because of how good the performances are.

Then later, because the writers didn't plan any of this don't bother with the follow up scenes of Raman's introspection on his words or Ishita holding him accountable because it was all throwaway for them. For a single scene.

So I can't break my head over this anymore 😆 I'm gonna think it's only because of how amazing Karan and Divz are. They are almost too good for the writing and are portraying depths not written.

PS collages great as always. Shining a light on our aces KP/DT
Edited by DipaRB6 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Gan, the collages say its own story..really awesome!!👍🏼 👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Gan,
After a very lon.. g time, I took a chance and watched the episode today..whattay day to come out of hibernation and watch an episode eh? please don't ask me why I made this faux pas after total abstinence. I was bored.. a lot of got-nothing-to-do-so why-the-heck-not, came into play.

And I guess I am great in choosing a winner episode. (NOT).. 'cos again I watched Raman uttering the famous words "not a mom", "go if you wanna go.. ". And again it had me thinking. .what the??😲 but honestly speaking, he repeats it with such frequency that it didn't even register.. its like the creatives have run out of ideas.. and they like to get a reaction from the audience.. that every now and then, ishita's "mom-worthiness" is questioned by Raman. Their thought process is like, "ok, we have run out of ideas to make these two quarrel, oh wait we have our standard route to fall back on, lets make ishita do something stupid which can be put down to her vying for best mother of the century award.. and then we can have raman mouth his words questioning her stupidity by speaking harsh words 'cos of anger.. and voila.. we have a reason for them to get mad at each other!!!
Still don't understand, where is character growth because you cannot put everything down to anger.. and still don't understand why I am looking for character growth because to be honest there is no growth whatsoever.. They still do things without talking it out with each other, and expect the other to go with the flow..
Words hurt.. actions hurt.. and they cannot be forgotten in a hurry.. wonder when the two will learn that.. or rather wonder when the creatives will move on instead of writing the same dialogs and scenes over and over again.

And then comes the comedy act... and trust me I was not laughing. I mean, a guy who has had 2 kids doesn't know to call an ambulance when a female is in labor? Seriously, does it have to be comedy just for the heck of it? did shagun cough the kids up? For some reason, it got to me too.. somehow felt it inappropriate.. may be its just me and i have issues..
I might be very much in minority.. but somehow I was not laughing at the end of the episode..
sorry for ranting ... again.. looks like thats what I do best. Will hold my peace..
until better times.. 😛
Edited by maaloo - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Just saw the episode...I have just 4 words for the cvs...


GET WELL SOON MAMU!!!

What was that?😕 The couple had a serious fight...there were heated arguments, unwarranted words being uttered, Ishita walked out of the house in anger!!! Next scene shows exciting plans being made by both of them?!!! 😕 No remorse whatsoever!!😡 If I wasn't watching today's episode online I would have definitely wondered if I switched channels. If they showed Ishita being forced to go to the spa or Raman being forced to join the guys for a drink, while both of them still seem upset or not in the mood, it would have still looked ok. But this was something else...bizarre and ridiculous.

And that scene where Vandu's labor pain started...water break nahi water leak hota hai? what kind of a person argues and yells at a pregnant woman in labor like that? Raman has 2 kids for crying out loud...
Cvs toh paagal hain hi...hume bhi bana denge...😆 For the nth time I feel like the dridhrashtra (in the mahabharat scene from the movie jaane bhi do yaaron) going "yeh kya ho raha hai..yeh kya ho raha hai"😆

Comedy circus indeed, Gan😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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This thread is always a great read.

As for the episode, i guess the joke is on us like every other time we expect one thing but get another, which is usually turning serious issues in to comedy or taken lightly as if nothing really happened.

They build the story nicely and we wait and watch with high expectation and get nothing much, and this is one of the reasons why they can't get to the top of the trp chart.

I enjoyed the later part because of the great acting by shruti and karan.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Gan, I agree to everything you said! I also couldn't enjoy the comedy riot that was brought on later with Vandu... cause this track had a personal connection!

The fight is very much real!
My dad is more or less like Raman in his parenting style. I remember there was a time where mom actually got paranoid over me going out with friends that she locked in my room! My parents fought about it, and my dad clearly said to my mom " if you don't trust your daughter, no one will"...boy that trust did wonders to the way I thought and did. In every decision I make now I consider is this something my dad will be proud of...will my mom approve ! This "TRUST" is what Ishita is lacking as of now!

Raman had good reason for his anger...but the way he expressed it was WRONG! Like you, the lack of reaction from both, got me going W*F more then the strong words of Raman! Maybe Ishita has gone immune to it ? Okay I know Raman and Ishita has a relation beyond words but seriously he should be the last person calling Ishita not a mother ...all that sweet talk of "why cant you be Ishima to Adi" and all , why give this two face personality to Raman...! Yes CVs should def watch the dailouges!

You know I'm against Ishita's over protectiveness! But I guess your child being brought home by police is not something most Indian parents will brush off! Its a huge red flag for their parenting skills😆 The cctv cam was plain stupid and really lacked a good reason for any sort of justification! But we cant ignore that Ishita holds immense care toward Adi...she wants to do everything in her power in ensure his safety...i guess strong concern sometimes calls for strong actions! Maybe she feels helpless and clueless with Adi.Raman and Her did have their talks about Adi but every time instead of understanding what Raman is trying to say, she felt Raman is not seeing the same danger as her she really felt it was up to her to save the kid, So lets put the fault on Puttar shall we😆

Im upset by the way Cvs turning this into Men Vs Woman thing, real potential gone wasted and it seems like Raman and Ishita wont revisit this again ...Im just hoping for one sensible conversation where both can admit to their faults and start co-parenting ! That cant be too much ask can it?

Also I feel in the name of comedy they kinda ruining characterization, I mean Raman is a father of two kids! Always kept up with his responsibilities ...wasn't he around for both of the delivery ? He should know ! Keeping logic aside , it was funny,😆 Karan is natural but its Shruti that I enjoy watching!

Also had Vinni be a boy would this track be viewed differently? I feel more wouldn't find Ishita as wrong that way...just a thought to pass!



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Gan, First things first... I owe you and the rest of the ladies who write on this thread a huge apology !
I went ballistic over the weekend, just reading the written update ... I was hoping for some better outcome from the fight ! What did we get ? a completely illogical sequence ... a total and an absolute farce ... I think even a farce is way better than what we got !
I was all bent out of shape and had my kn****ers in a knot and the end result had me smacking my head ...
I should have expected this kind of an end after watching the OLV's and the SBB and SBS updates... but unfortunately I was a delusional fool...
None of the tracks from the time of Mani track have ended as they should have... after putting the viewers through gut wrenching, emotional turmoil absolutely draining episodes, the sudden turn around is comedy !
After Mani track, after Raman wanting to move to Singapore track everything seems to be funny for the writers... Why is it so difficult for the writers to give us the closure we want ...
Am I expecting too much from an Indian soap ? Should I just watch YHM the way I watch Castle, Bones GoT ? not get emotionally attached ? I am confused, upset and devastated !
PS : I read KP's grandfather passed away. My condolences to the Patels. May the departed soul rest in peace.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very apt post Gan. Thanks for voicing out everything that I wanted to say. We have been analyzing and over analyzing every word these characters utter in a desperate attempt to understand their respective POVs. But the CVs have turned it into a comedy circus. Unlike their usual arguments yesterday's was different ..for the first time I heard Ishita being vocal about the fact that she was the one who gave a new lease of life to Ruhi. And I couldnt believe it when Raman said forget abt being a good mother she was not even a mother in the first place. This was huge ! And then all of a sudden they change the whole thing into a battle of sexes as you rightly called it..
Is this really normal or am I failing to understand the dynamics of a husband and wife relationship ?



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Sorry gals got distracted by real life.. So couldn't comment ot chit chat last night... I tried but the whole Vandu raman scene didn't gel with me as I couldn't relate to it... Like some of you pointed out.. Raman being clueless about what to do .. Seemed idiotic and the RKB that I adore is anything but.

Maloo .. It's so good to see you sweetz! Yeah wrong episode to watch.. But hey Atleast you peeked here and posted.. It always feels lovely to see known names here after a hiatus.. Hope to see you more often.. Even if you don't watch the episodes.

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