faulty sense of security n pampering can do d opp of wht Bhallas want - Page 4

Originally posted by: stylish_VJ

Hey Shalz...thanks for the PM Yaar...

I have given up hope on YHM ever reserructing so no analysis, no rantings no ramblings nothing from my side...I have a lot to rant but I can't find the energy to do it any more when everything about this track is fundamentally wrong...I have said it before I say it again...Everything about this track is fundamentally wrong.

I did not watch the episode on TV (not contributing to the TRP's) Call me a sadist but I was very happy with some scene in the episode today...and you know which parts those are...Mind you I am really angry with what's happening even my sadistic happiness stems from that -ANGER so no offense to anyone.

I'd do the same VJ, had I been a contributor for the TRPs. In fact, wishing for the TRPs to fall down, there by hoping for a better, sensible, mature and logical track.

I am completely with you regarding the Sadistic happiness, stemming from Anger, as thats exactly how I feel. I posted my views regarding this in the same thread and also in Coco's.




1)Ruhi pushing away Ishita's hand...That 'NO' was an outcry of a broken heart and an abandoned soul. I don't care what Ishita was thinking or why...I can't see her act of ditching Ruhi for the greater goods as justifiable...I am no mother but I know that I could and would never let my little girl down...The other can do whatever they please...My child would come for me first no matter what...I know that it is what my mother would do. It was any good mother would do.

Though not being a Mother, U hit the nail on the head. Thats the reason, why I'm not able to connect to the show anymore. The most pure and sanctitious relationship has been butchered.. for what?? DRAMA??? 😲😒

2) Ruhi telling Toshi Ji and the other Bhalla's off especially Toshi Bhalla. "Aapko Ruhi nahi Adi bhaiyya chahiye...Adi bhaiyya hai na aapke paas phir aapko Ruhi kyun chahiye" and the cat caught Toshi ji's tougue. Her GKC rant is what got things to become this worse in the first place. Her GKC rant, with Romi's problem and chest pains is what caused Raman to take a decision without thinking it through it properly...sure he signed without reading the papers but somewhere I hold Toshi Ji the bigger culprit for all this rushing through. Her non-stop vansh, ghar ka chiraag, mera Adi wish came true and Ruhi just gave it back to her...It was such a verbal slap and even if in REEL terms I know it must have stung her so bad because it was coming from a 7 year old child, her face strained with tears, her eyes filled with pain because of the betrayal she was subjected to...and most importantly Ruhi has been the child who has been with Toshi forever...Ever since Shagun left Ruhi it was Toshi Ji who raised her...Raman was never there...it was all Dadi and Poti...and today to see that being thrown in her face because of their wrong actions and in-actions...That is KARMA!!!

Such apt reaction from Ruhi Baby. Anything else, would have been not right. She is disappointed, dejected, feels unwanted.

3) The male lead...Who is he? I don't even recognize him anymore...He was always flawed, irrational, impulsive, emotional but never DUMB and as of late everything Raman does or rather the CV's makes Raman do is chipping away the image of THE Raman Kumar Bhalla I fell in love with. So Raman threatens to stop Shagun's source of income. For the past so many episodes he is either blinded by anger or emotionally wrapped when he takes a decision and where does that lead to -DISASTER. Now in his anger he decides to stop all the financial needs of Shagun and challenges her to bring up Ruhi with her own money and when she fails to do so he will take Ruhi ka custody back. And he expects Shagun to actually be scared by those words? Seriously does this man not know how what a conniving woman she is. Shagun cares for no one but her and by now Raman should know atleast that so wouldn't she fuel Ruhi's mind with the idea that Raman and Ishita don't love her anymore and hence refusing to give money? Ruhi who is hurt by the fact that Aditya was chosen over her expense wouldn't it be easy to fixate this notion in the already crumbled mind of a 7 year old child? You know what it should happen, Raman should stop the funding and such a moment should come...where Ruhi asks Raman and makes him feel as if it would have been better to die than hear the daughter who once claimed him as her most favorite person in the world ask him thsi question.

PRECAP : LOVED IT!!!

What Ishita and Raman did isn't justifiable...They had no right to do it that innocent soul. They took the easy way out...(CV's for the sake of Masaledaar drama) and she deserved much much much better so I can understand the CRY of a 7 year old far better than the tears shed by Ishita-Raman.

Aditya's condition is bad, infact he was the most affected in this war...and my heart goes out to him but I can't turn a blind eye to the fact that for the happiness and welbeing of one child the other one was brutally abandoned.

I may have come out a little strong but the past 2 episodes, the execution...why say more the very idea of the whole swap drama and the way it is being handled or rather butchered is not bringing the best side of me 😭


Cheers

Poignant post Shalz.

Actually, I think they're not trying to tell him he is the only one and his little sister has vanished in thin air, but, they want to tell him he is not the one responsible for Ruhi's tragedy and Ishita's pain. Aadi thinks he is the reason why everyone is suffering and that's why the atitude of suicide, no? I think they are making him comfortable, because the damage is already done in the past years and that is not going to recover in a jiffy... and if the foundations are scarred they can't proceed forward to shape him.😊

Did I make sense, or justified their attitude insanely?😕

Parenting is not the same experience for all, it vary person to person. But, I think parents should be right amount of jolliness and strictness, adequate portions of liberation and captivation. At the end of the day they're whom we can keep ourselves on and cry, and in times shout at them ranting the frustrations. In true sense, they should be the friend, philosopher and guide.

PS : I am not well connected to the show recently. Just caught a glimpse today. So, if my inputs do not match with the reality, please don't mind me and feel free to correct.😆

Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan

Hey Shalz

you are going to make me type too much 😛 I was busy at work during the day, and my hands were itching to write something so thank you for the post... I got 2 answers for you. choose whichever you want 😎 Fair warning: Answer # 1 is too long and boring

Answer 1

When children do well, parents feel the most unselfish kind of pride; they are proud of their kids, and don't necessarily feel like they have achieved something (or the kid has done well because of their parenting), they genuinely feel proud of their kid.

On the other hand, when a kid messes up, parents feel guilty, and start introspection about why their kid is not doing well, and how they may have messed the child up. It doesn't matter if the kid is being taught something bad at school, is being bullied, or someone from the family is teaching him/her bad things. Parents feel guilty. period

If you or me, as a third person analyse both the situations, we would perhaps give the parents more weightage in the first case, and exculpate them to a certain extent in the second scenario. And that is why psychology is a thriving business (sorry to use the word business, but it's what it is). You need someone that understands the mental state of ALL parties involved, the familial environment of the said kid and parents, and someone who is still far enough to objectively analyse the situation.

Traditionally, a few decades ago, a child with such major problems would be made fun of (not only in school but elsewhere too). His family would be shunned, and people would be warned to not 'associate' themselves with 'such' a family. What would such a family do? Taking the kid to a doctor would mean admitting that there is a problem. And it would be cruel and inhuman to discipline such a 'troubled' child. So, lets act as if everything is normal, and shower love on the kid. Because if we pretend normal long enough, and give the kid enough love, maybe the kid will change. (This may not sound true or may sound crazy, but this is what would have exactly happened in the community I lived and grew up in! I don't mean to generalise, because different parts of India 'grew up' differently) Anyway... I don't think is wrong either, and may perhaps work in a lot of scenarios too.

BUT...

Ishita and Raman did not grow up in rural India a few decades ago. They are not 'ashamed' of Adi. They aren't worried about what others would think. A 12-year old, growing up in that environment, and having spent so much time with people like Shagun and Ashok would know EXACTLY what was going on. He'd know that Ruhi has been 'traded' for him. He'd know everything. So I don't think walking on eggshells around him is needed.

Also, what the past few days have shown is Ishita and Raman are not perfect parents (Either individually, or as a unit, they are too close to the situation to see it objectively). They are assuming Adi will be hurt, they are assuming Ruhi will cope. and they may be right.

But Ishita and Raman, if nothing, should be smart enough to know they could be wrong. Adi hasn't healed yet, and Ruhi's suffering has just begun. They need counselling (Family counselling) and Adi needs to see a real shrink. Only a qualified professional can decide what course of action to take to 'fix' this problem.

Long story short, I don't think it's upto Ishita or Raman to decide how to deal with Adi. Pampering him could scar the surface without healing the wound. But making Adi feel he is responsible for their sorry state isn't going to help either. Unfortunately neither of them know Adi's psyche. They should be asking the shrink how to deal with this.

Answer 2

You & me are worried about Adi's mental state and what is right and wrong. The makers of this show are worried about what will make them more money.

a) Showing IshRa as the golden parents with the Midas touch to fix every kid

b) making Adi a super-creepy villain

c) making Ruhi a child who hates her Ishima with vengeance and will deliberate act being closer to Shagun

none of these options have anything to do with anyone's mental state... they only mess up ours 😳

Originally posted by: cocololo123

Hey Shalz if you don't mind me putting my input. I don't understand why they are treating adi like that when Adi himself knows the tension in the house to due to Ruhi's custody. They shouldn't sugar coat anything. Yes they can keep him away from the tension like I think Raman did with trying to distract him with video games.

I agree with you parenting is on easy and they shouldn't pamper Adi. They should help get normal in life. Teach him basic social skills and manner that Shagun failed to do.

Originally posted by: IFollower

Hi Shalz.. Thx for starting this thread, so did Coco and I posted on Coco's thread before coming here. I will just paste what I've written there. Not everything is related to your post. Its generally my feeling about the episode and the current track. Theres just a small bit, about the 'Adi/ Ruhi' discussion.

(Ladies/ Guys (if any here)... Please do not read if you do not like Ishita or IshRa being commented).

I did not watch the episode from 23rd, Monday but watched the Tuesday, 24th March episode, after reading a few posts here. The first few minutes of the court scene was so heart-breaking. Did they have to show that? 😭😭!! Ruhanika is a fab actress. Bless her!!

Coming to the current episode, it was certainly a GOOD episode. Almost close to reality, the consequences of such decisions- on both parties. Though DT, KP and the rest of the ensemble cast did complete justice to their roles, I am sorry to say- I haven't felt an ounce of pity for them. Not even seeing their tears. Even Ishita's falling ill and calling out for Ruhi did not move me.

I am not stone-hearted, in fact quite the opposite. I cry buckets 😳 watching sad scenes and hence try and avoid. But no, they could not move me. What moved me, was Ruhi baby. My question since y'day was how dare they do that to a 7yr little girl? And I was disgusted with Ishita's dialogue ki Ruhi would understand. Really? Ishita surely is delusional. She truly believes that she is a "Mahaan" and hence everyone, including a 7yr little girl would understand her 'so-called' good intentions. I am not judging or questioning Ruhi's love for her Ishima or that of Ishita's for Ruhi, neither Bhallas love for Ruhi. I am only questioning and criticising her/ their actions and the decision that she has taken. Its time for the Bhallas to face reality.

I was so happy for Ruhi's dialogues. I did not think for a sec, she was OTT. She was bang on! That little girl had seen a lot in her few years of life. Yes, agreed- she is more perceptive and mature for her age, and in fact more than her 12yr brother. But, she is still a child- especially a child, who saw neglect from her dad, who sought out love and found love in her Ishima, who started building a secure home in her heart, who started rejoicing in her new found HOME (the true sense of home). And what did she receive?? Public humiliation of not being wanted, and that too coming out of her Ishima's mouth.

What Ruhi is going through is EMOTIONAL ABUSE!! She has already been through NEGLECT by her father in the past. These are quite serious, when we talk about Child Abuse cases.

Though it is not about Adi Vs Ruhi, Adi was at least fortunate enough not to go thro' them. He felt wanted and loved, albeit for the wrong reasons, but he doesnt know that.

The only other scene I liked was Raman threatening Shagun and thankfully wiping off that ugly smirk of her face. God... can someone just slap that smirk of her face forever??!!! What kind of a human is she? Such Narcissistic personality. She truly doesn't care for anyone, including her own kids. She already started her slow-poisoning of Ruhi. And boy, I was so glad that Ruhi just walked away from there. Smart little princess!!

As many of you have already pointed, I did not understand the logic behind the Bhallas shushing off Ruhi's topic. Why????? Some of U, very clever people, rightly pointed out that by dusting it under the carpet is not gonna solve the problem. Adi needs to be talked to. I haven't watched the previous episodes, hence cannot comment if Raman talked to Adi or not, regarding the suicide ?attempt. He is a 12yr old, old enough and smart enough (even to scheme and plot) to understand things. He should be explained things, be shown right from wrong and also to directly address the ?suicide attempt. But having said this, who in Bhalla's family is smart enough to do that in the 1st place? Its high time for them to buckle up and do the right, sensible, mature things for once.

Well, anyway, YHM started to fail logic long time back.

IshRa's scene did nothing to me . Surprised by myself. I am a romantic but unfortunately didnt work today.

I am sorry to have offended anyone. Not my intention. These are purely my PoV, my opinions. I do not like negative criticism, it drains me. But, I have not been able to stop myself since y'day. From being a quiet spectator that I was, in the last day, I have made so many posts on this topic. NOT me!! But this heart-breaking of a child broke my patience.

Again, please do not misunderstand me. I'm not bashing any real people here, just the characters.

I am all for IshRu, then anyone and anything else. And if it comes to Ishita or Ruhi- RUHI all the way. I know what children go through when they feel unwanted. And I've seen so many cases of Neglect/ Abuse in children that, there are no words to describe them. And though this is a fictional show- I have my emotions invested in this, that I can't stop reacting.

Parents are the Ultimate role models for their Children. Every word, movements and action has an effect. No other person or outside force has a greater influence on a child other than the Parent. - Bob Keeshan

Have a wonderful day/ evening and Love 🤗...NO WAR, Please!!!!