How are Ishita and Shagun different ?

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brainychild92

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Posted: 10 years ago

#11

if shagun mama had asked, she would've gave her... it was for two days right..till the court opens... she would've done it.. ruhi's been on trips longer than that..

but shagun mama didn't ask for ruhi, ex-wife of rkb did. you know the woman who was very clear on multiple occasions that she is doing this for revenge. if that wasn't enough, ishita has seen shogun ignore adi; left him hungry; broke; pushed him towards negative things; and to fend for himself, on more than one occasion. it is one thing when she has no control over adi, but ruhi calls her MA! She was very clear in todays episode that she took ruhi away from SHAGUN and ONLY SHAGUN! she would be back when the courts open up.

I understand many have missed that dialogue, because even I have been skipping on watching everything, but she does say this while apologizing in her heart to her family and "murugan" and anything else that i missed.

I'm not saying she was right, but stop thinking logically and perhaps ask yourself and a mother what is the MOTHERLY thing to do in this situation. Even if she still seems wrong, you might at least stop comparing her to Shagun, of all people

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.Ranju.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: anjs

totally agree with you...this is an act of selfishness by an insecured Ishita Iyer...not Ruhi's Ishima...Ruhi's Ishima wont lie to Ruhi so flawlessly

and how do we know that Ishita has taken Ruhi away till the court opens, no where did they indicate that...why are people assuming such stuff just to glorify Ishita;s this mistake

and yes, we wanted a selfish Ishita, but selfish towards Shagun...to keep her family n Raman with her...we didnt want this kinda selfishness where she punished the Bhalla;s by running away with their daughter...upon whom they dot on...and who loves them equally..

She didnt even spare one single thought to Raman and her love for him...so coldly n ruthlessly she broke that bond...

her behavior was of a psychotic person, who is snatching something that didnt belong to her...whereas actually she just had to wait till monday to appeal in the court...she cudve moved next to Shagun's room in the same hotel if she thought Ruhi is in grave danger...rather than committing this blunder...but Ishita is selfish for Ruhi, she doesnt even mind if Ruhi is away from her family or they are missing her...all she wants is Ruhi with her...

i believe her this act has proved that Ruhi is nothing but a object or toy for her, who she refuses to part with, like a child...

How did you conclude that she was taking Ruhi away from her family forever? Did she ever say that she is leaving permanently? I am not saying she did that right thing but trying to understand why she did that!
@Bold after this sentence I dont have anything to say! This is the same women inspite of repeatedly getting thrashed by her daughter's father still married him for her happiness!! If you still think that she treats Ruhi as a toy then there is no point in me explaining my thoughts.

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brainychild92

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Posted: 10 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: anjs

totally agree with you...this is an act of selfishness by an insecured Ishita Iyer...not Ruhi's Ishima...Ruhi's Ishima wont lie to Ruhi so flawlessly

and how do we know that Ishita has taken Ruhi away till the court opens, no where did they indicate that...why are people assuming such stuff just to glorify Ishita;s this mistake

and yes, we wanted a selfish Ishita, but selfish towards Shagun...to keep her family n Raman with her...we didnt want this kinda selfishness where she punished the Bhalla;s by running away with their daughter...upon whom they dot on...and who loves them equally..

She didnt even spare one single thought to Raman and her love for him...so coldly n ruthlessly she broke that bond...

her behavior was of a psychotic person, who is snatching something that didnt belong to her...whereas actually she just had to wait till monday to appeal in the court...she cudve moved next to Shagun's room in the same hotel if she thought Ruhi is in grave danger...rather than committing this blunder...but Ishita is selfish for Ruhi, she doesnt even mind if Ruhi is away from her family or they are missing her...all she wants is Ruhi with her...

i believe her this act has proved that Ruhi is nothing but a object or toy for her, who she refuses to part with, like a child...

she says she couldn't wait till the court opened. she could;t let shaun take ruhi away. Seeing Ishita so far one can understand her nature. Once she'd calm down, and the weekend passed she would be a little more relieved and how long was she going to lie to ruhi. We know that girl can't survive without her dad, and unlike shagun, ishita cant torture her. [adi can withstand his mom forgetting to feed her but i doubt ruhi would]

again referring to my original post, i'm not defending that ishita is right, but from a mothers point of view, she had no other choice but to defend her baby. it doesn't mean she doesn't love her family, but she is a mother first..

my dad and i were talking about another show and how the mother baby's her married son and doesn't relent even when the dad tries to discipline him. heres what my dad said to me..

a girl is born--> she is a daughter;

she gets married--> she is first a wife, then a daughter, daughter in law, sister in law, blah blah...

then she has a child and gets promoted to "mother". She is forever a mother and nothing else... not a wife, not a daughter in law, aunt, sister.. she is a mother. Everything else comes second.

This is what they are showing right now. Its not a bad thing, but your child comes first. It doesn't make your marriage or husband any less important, but your child's safety is top.

Now this is my father telling me, so it has to have some truth if a man is giving so much importance to a woman without negativity... lol

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sunitas123

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Posted: 10 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: ankitasen

Sorry to disagree but this is not an act of Ishima/Ruhi's mother. This is an act of insecured Ishita Iyer. That makes a vast difference to the whole picture. I'm amazed to read that people are terming it as an act of motherly love, but the fact is she didn't do it because she's the mother, rather she did it coz she couldn't overcome her own insecurities.

I see a selfish Ishita Iyer there, not a selfish Ishima/Ruhi's mother. In my my opinion, it's a vast difference and as some are still accepting her deed as a motherly act, I found no "motherly" thing here by running away with Ruhi. Why? Ishita ran away with Ruhi not because her daughter's safety was at stake but because she couldn't live without her. If she was worried about her daughter's safety, she would have thought out the repercussion of her deed, specially in the eyes of the law. Plus a few day's at Shagun's wouldn't kill Ruhi for god's sake but her action now will act as a big disadvantage for the case. Fear of losing Ruhi got the better of sensible educated side of Ishima. So, it's an act of Ishita Iyer, NOT an act of Ishima.

At the same time, Ishita's action puts a big question mark on her relationship with Raman too.

Well said, let us have a totally selfless Ishita Iyer who gives a damn about Ruhi and hands her over to Shagun, right? Ishita is taking Ruhi away from Shagun for 2 days and not away from the Bhallas forever. If Ruhi was at home, Shagun would have taken her in the morning itself. Ishita is scared that Shagun will take Ruhi anywhere since Shagun is now in a hotel. Last two times during custody she had not panicked so much.

If she was selfish she would not have brought Shagun and Adi home. She is possessive about Ruhi and why not? It was Ruhi who gave her a life, made her a mom. If Ruhi was not there who was Raman?

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anjs

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Posted: 10 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: .Ranju.

How did you conclude that she was taking Ruhi away from her family forever? Did she ever say that she is leaving permanently? I am not saying she did that right thing but trying to understand why she did that!
@Bold after this sentence I dont have anything to say! This is the same women inspite of repeatedly getting thrashed by her daughter's father still married him for her happiness!! If you still think that she treats Ruhi as a toy then there is no point in me explaining my thoughts.

she married him for Ruhi, cause she wanted Ruhi with her too...and it was not an act of charity...

her leaving without informing anyone, itself says that she is running away permanently...otherwise she is not in the mental state to plan to leave for the weekend...and if you are suggesting that she planned all this...then i dont know what to say, cause planning this makes her a conniving woman...that too without informing Raman (ruhi's bilogical father) and the Bhallas...thats pretty bad

secondly, i have always read your thoughts about Ishita, Raman and the tracks, and dont agree with them, most of the time so its ok, if you dont want to take any trouble...cause m sure i wont agree this time too 😊

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ZigBee

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Posted: 10 years ago

#16

Ruhi is Ishita's obsession and obsession can't be good always. This obsession and Ishita's own security were the catalyst behind Ishita's running away with Ruhi. I'm finding it funny when some fans of Ishita are labeling it out of MOTHERLY LOVE!! 😆 If it is so, every mother in the world would run away with her child when a custody case is pending showing the middle finger to the law and the court. 😆 And, I guess these fans forgot that there are two options left for Ishita, either to settle down somewhere else with Ruhi and come back someday and surrender to the law. If she settles down somewhere else, then it proves that Ishita was staying in Bhalla house just for Ruhi and never loved Raman as he was only Ruhi's father. If she comes back, then she would have to face the law and most importantly would lose Ruhi's custody.
I guess Ishita fans didn't fathom yet what blunder she committed! 😆

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1019702

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Posted: 10 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: sunitas123

Well said, let us have a totally selfless Ishita Iyer who gives a damn about Ruhi and hands her over to Shagun, right? Ishita is taking Ruhi away from Shagun for 2 days and not away from the Bhallas forever. If Ruhi was at home, Shagun would have taken her in the morning itself. Ishita is scared that Shagun will take Ruhi anywhere since Shagun is now in a hotel. Last two times during custody she had not panicked so much.

If she was selfish she would not have brought Shagun and Adi home. She is possessive about Ruhi and why not? It was Ruhi who gave her a life, made her a mom. If Ruhi was not there who was Raman?

1 sec...Am I missing something...?? How do you know she is taking her away just for 2 days..and will be back on Monday..?? Did we had a scene like that???

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anjs

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Posted: 10 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: elene93
Ruhi is Ishita's obsession and obsession can't be good always. This obsession and Ishita's own security were the catalyst behind Ishita's running away with Ruhi. I'm finding it funny when some fans of Ishita are labeling it out of MOTHERLY LOVE!! 😆 If it is so, every mother in the world would run away with her child when a custody case is pending showing the middle finger to the law and the court. 😆 And, I guess these fans forgot that there are two options left for Ishita, either to settle down somewhere else with Ruhi and come back someday and surrender to the law. If she settles down somewhere else, then it proves that Ishita was staying in Bhalla house just for Ruhi and never loved Raman as he was only Ruhi's father. If she comes back, then she would have to face the law and most importantly would lose Ruhi's custody.
I guess Ishita fans didn't fathom yet what blunder she committed! 😆

exactly... their case have become so weak, now...what if Shagun proves in the court that Ishita isnt mentally stable...that way she can ask legally for a permanent custody...and Bhalla's and Raman will have to loose Ruhi forever...

even now Raman is at fault, as he signed the paper...but its a fraud committed by Shagun thereby there was chances of them winning...but IShita's this act has completely demolished their chances...

also, i dont understand the grave danger that Ruhi is facing from Shagun...what can she do...she wont kill Ruhi for sure...and if they file a complaint with police then she cannot take Ruhi outside the country too...so why cudnt Ishita just wait and work it out

i dont mind her being selfish...but selfish toward Shagun...to keep her family intact...not just run away from her husband n others, cause she doesnt need them...that is psychotic behavior...and i hope they realize this...and show her accepting it as her fault n hopefully working towards treating it properly...

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anjs

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Posted: 10 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: RollingStones

1 sec...Am I missing something...?? How do you know she is taking her away just for 2 days..and will be back on Monday..?? Did we had a scene like that???

exactly...everyone here has just assumed that she has a plan n she has run away for two days n will be back on monday to present her case to the court...

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.Ranju.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: elene93
Ruhi is Ishita's obsession and obsession can't be good always. This obsession and Ishita's own security were the catalyst behind Ishita's running away with Ruhi. I'm finding it funny when some fans of Ishita are labeling it out of MOTHERLY LOVE!! 😆 If it is so, every mother in the world would run away with her child when a custody case is pending showing the middle finger to the law and the court. 😆 And, I guess these fans forgot that there are two options left for Ishita, either to settle down somewhere else with Ruhi and come back someday and surrender to the law. If she settles down somewhere else, then it proves that Ishita was staying in Bhalla house just for Ruhi and never loved Raman as he was only Ruhi's father. If she comes back, then she would have to face the law and most importantly would lose Ruhi's custody.
I guess Ishita fans didn't fathom yet what blunder she committed! 😆

There is no need to mock anyone because they support a certain character!! No one is saying she did the right thing! Everyone is saying why she did that? There are lot of cases in real life where mothers have killed either their own husbands or relatives who troubled their children! They would not have thought what would happen to their children when they go to jail. They just reacted hyper in that situation. Ishita did the same and she is going to pay for it! Trying to understand a character doesnt make a person to be labled as somebody's fan or hater.

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