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Posted: 10 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: --Megha--

Firstly I wud say m very surprised that Cvs got this issue this early. Coz I was not expecting Ishra to talk about intimacy hinting towards consummation πŸ˜›

I have not watched the episode. But I agree with Ishita.

Firstly I think she did not say NO to getting physical with Raman- we have seen her back hugging him etc.

Her point is that she is too happy within her life n she loves raman n Ruhi n doesnt need anyone else (a baby). Ya she gets affected if someone calls her a Baanj but anyone wud. Next time if this Baanj stupidity is shown I wud like Ishita to smile at that person n Say ruhi is my child n I m not a baanj(she has papers to prove too now) rather than crying in front of that person. When someone taunts u - U smile n give them a fitting reply they will never taunt u back coz they can see that their taunting is not affecting u any more.

According to me she is not wrong in not expecting another child.

If Puttar still wants a Baby with Ishita all he needs to do is tell Amma n Toshiji about the reports.
🀣 Both will do the needful of explaining Ishita (especially Amma πŸ˜†) about having babies πŸ˜›.

Overall m really happy with they way this infertility issue was treated. πŸ‘ A husband saying that he wants all the happiness for his wife and wants her to feel complete in every sense and wife saying I am already complete what more do I need? I think I prefer these kind of understanding in relationship over cheesy Romance with couples saying ILU etc.

Another inportant thing I want to add is - suppose Ishita refuses for physical intimacy is it wrong? I dont think so - there r so many marriages conpletely platonic n they still work. Intimacy is a part of marriage n also Love but if one of the partners is not interested in it I think the other partner needs to respect that. 😳 Besides Ishra marriage was a conditionalone only for Ruhi so they had not thought of getting intimate from beginning. Just my POV.





Interesting point megha


I agree that ishita is not wrong in not expecting another child


Ishita is not wrong if she wants only platonic relationship

But then she is in love


Ramsn has already expressed what he wants

She should also try to fulfill his expectAtions


As frAnkly consummation is not only about kids

But also about expression of love


And I don't think sirf Ruhi ke liye applies now
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Posted: 10 years ago
#32
very good and balanced post as always, Leo... totally agree bt the medical scene...it can be interpreted any ways...i thought she was at a very happy place at the moment...
Just before marriage she was trying for adoption, then she got married for Ruhi, without any other expectations from Raman...and now she has found a very supportive partner in him...so its like a bonus...now she doesnt pine for anything...not even a child of her own...

Just when she saw the reports, for a moment i thought she would flair-up n blame him for ruining the moment by reminding her of the pain n hurt...thankfully better sense prevailed...

Shagun was alert towards Adi in Bhalla house...maybe to show the Bhalla's...now in Iyer house she has become lax...this is very predictable way of transforming Adi i feel...but i guess they dont have much options there...

wonder what Toshi will say when she sees her GKC was kept hungry by Apshagun
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33
I think Raman's timing was wrong but intention was right. Ishita didn't mind anyways. Ishita's dialogue might sound cheesy but the "you complete me" line was masterstroke for me. She's considering Raman's company more precious than everything she lost so far (her first love, dignity and most importantly the blessing of being a biological mother). Everything is irrelevant now as she's got Raman.

I agree with you about her behaving as a proper wife. I think Raman has to take initiatives first. She won't because she is inexperienced and she's got very low self-esteem about herself.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: drishtimaurya

And what was Ishita planning??? She wanted the redecoration of Raman's office to be the anniversary gift? Bit unromantic, especially when the other person is being so passionate, but still good gift! But calling the interior designer to their suite, where they were supposed to be spending some quality time??? What if an actual interior designer had come disturbing them in between! I'm sure Raman wud not have liked that!!!


Correction...Ishita herself dint had any idea about the Suite...She was expecting them to be present in Lounge Area...and that's what She first thing asked to the Receptionist ..where's the Lounge area...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#35
Always enjoy reading ur review on episode .

For me episode was entertaining but as u said it can have different interpretations.

Cvs are always confused with ishita character.

One side they want to show her as devi other side again they want to show her as human that confuses viewers.

I expected ishita to get very happy seeing that report.
It would hv been more relatable. But yes cvs could hv added one more dialogue saying ruhi and raman reduced her pains and gave her strength.

If she was so content with her life then why she feels bad wen someone calls her baanjh ? Why ruhi has to come and do godbharai and all? Why can't ishita herself fight with subbu mom?

Why ishita feels bad thinking she will always be a step mother?


Cvs are little confused regarding how to portray ishita. Even if cvs show ishita feeling happy seeing report that will not gonna create impression that ishita's love for ruhi has decreased.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: rose35

I think the medical report scene interpretation has nothing to do with what Ishita or Raman wants from a marriage. The meaning was much deeper than that.

Ishita has been insulted many times for being infertile. It was and is still considered a taboo in India society. There are times when the fault lies with men and yet it is the woman who is vilified and the man goes on to marry several times in the hopes of an off spring.

Raman got the report to remove that taboo, to end the torture Ishita goes through especially by Airhead and Subbu's mother. It was very sweet and very emotional and
heartwarming gift a man can give to a woman he loves so much. It had nothing to do with consummation.

Ishita tore up the report because she wanted to show she loves Raman and Ruhi and will continue to love them. She does not need a support that some day she will conceive. She wants to consummate because she loves Raman and not because she wants a baby.

Both Raman and ishita were selfless and each made a lovely gesture to the other.




Well that was probably the deeper and correct point about the whole scene


But my point is that


To understand what other wants from marriage


Ishita should understand Raman expectations


And is it wrong if Raman expects more from ishita
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Posted: 10 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan



I got why you wrote that Megha... but my point is... if Ishita is not interested, then Raman shouldnt force. agreed, but Raman should be told she is not interested. Is is neither morally right for him to push it, just like it is completely unfair of her to let him live in denial about her feelings on that topic.

I know Ishita is not saying no to intimacy. Thats why I said, I am talking in general terms since you brought in the subject of platonic relationship. All I am saying is both should know what the other person whats, and if it is different from their own thoughts, then they should discuss.



Ya absolutely in platonic relationship u cant lead on n give false hopes to other party n then reject right when theystart getting intimate. 😳 thats y talking in a relationship is important.

N here as we saw Ishita said No to babies but not to intimacy so we cant assume that Ishita is not OK with intimacy - so this was my point.

Besides we have seen her getting excited or even blushing when Bala told her about first step or she back hugged Raman n wasalmost about to kiss him but Raman was talking with his client over video call so she back tracked. Intehan hogai intezaar ki - she danced for Raman but Adi took overdose n cosummation disturbed. There r so many examples like that.

Basically CVs r only showing that every time this couple comes closer to intimacy they r disturbed by something else n they cant take it further.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: DiyaRathore

I think Raman's timing was wrong but intention was right. Ishita didn't mind anyways. Ishita's dialogue might sound cheesy but the "you complete me" line was masterstroke for me. She's considering Raman's company more precious than everything she lost so far (her first love, dignity and most importantly the blessing of being a biological mother). Everything is irrelevant now as she's got Raman.

I agree with you about her behaving as a proper wife. I think Raman has to take initiatives first. She won't because she is inexperienced and she's got very low self-esteem about herself.


That line for the first time made me feel that Ishita wants Raman just for him, no any other reason attached to it!πŸ˜‰
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Posted: 10 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: RollingStones


Correction...Ishita herself dint had any idea about the Suite...She was expecting them to be present in Lounge Area...and that's what She first thing asked to the Receptionist ..where's the Lounge area...


Even if its that! She had planned a dinner there, fine! But bringing an Interior Decorator to such a private moment, not good! Its just CVs dont actuall yapply brains!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: rose35

I think the medical report scene interpretation has nothing to do with what Ishita or Raman wants from a marriage. The meaning was much deeper than that.

Ishita has been insulted many times for being infertile. It was and is still considered a taboo in India society. There are times when the fault lies with men and yet it is the woman who is vilified and the man goes on to marry several times in the hopes of an off spring.

Raman got the report to remove that taboo, to end the torture Ishita goes through especially by Airhead and Subbu's mother. It was very sweet and very emotional and
heartwarming gift a man can give to a woman he loves so much. It had nothing to do with consummation.

Ishita tore up the report because she wanted to show she loves Raman and Ruhi and will continue to love them. She does not need a support that some day she will conceive. She wants to consummate because she loves Raman and not because she wants a baby.

Both Raman and ishita were selfless and each made a lovely gesture to the other.



THANK YOU for this SENSIBLE UNBIASED post...πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘...this is EXACTLY wht i felt for BOTH Raman n Ishita today πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒ

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