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Posted: 10 years ago
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No woman deserves to go through any of this. No matter who she is.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Koolkid ur question of no women deserving rapes or Sexual harrassment is right.

No arguments about that. But unfortunately lot of kids n teenagers watch this show not just Matured audience now owing to the new time slot n also coz of lil Ruhi or for Ishra Chemistry and people do get influenced with such stuff.

N not all teenagers n kids r vile but yes people do get influenced with what is shown on TV.

Maybe not everyone in 1.2 billion but even if it is few 10s or hundred its still a big number.
Edited by mnr123 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: KoolKid95



On another page, I have stated that I disagreed with the way that the directors dealt with the issue where Raman misbehaved with Ishita and it was forgotten as if nothing happened which shows a a bad message to the audience that a husband can treat you in that way and it is acceptable which is not right. However, why can't the arguments distinctly stick to questioning (not abusing) the directors choice, if that's your opinion, as opposed to saying bold comments such as a certain person deserves to be raped?


This is last time am going to express my pov hope u will get it this time what i am saying :
Firstly i have clearly mention that no one deserves this means i am against of this. But i can't blame ppl of the forum if they can't sympathise with this issue because cv has failed miserably in creating the situation. The dialogue given to both ishita and mihika is so stupid and dumb that u want to give them tight slap instead of feeling sympathises .

Secondly am against of this so much that i have stopped watching it. Because i can't see female as object and some devi form who can forgive any crime for the sake of relationships...
So i took a stand against this attitude of the CV by not watching this YHM , not not going to contribute anything in this trp games.

If u have so much problem then go to root cause of the problem instead of simply blaming the ppl of the forum. They (ppl of the forum )are not writing this crap. Secondly Main aurat/female hoon issliye mujhse se sympathy karo attitude demand nahi karna chaiye ..

P.S. Sorry for being rude.


Edited by mayu1982 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@mayu1982
The point I think the postmaker is making is do you need a show to tell you whether it's wrong or right???? So in the context of the show if you find mihika deserves what she got, every time in real life we shall search For context.

And my point is If we are the type who find it wrong no matter what then believe me we will stop watching. Those of us who look for reasons to stay on be it ishra or love of the concept or watched it from beginning are all contextual people.

That is why I posed the question in my post.
In fact in recent Satyamev Jayate they are talking about this only!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: mnr123

Well ideally its bad to think bad about anyone but this is how Cvs have shown regressive stuff so people r bound to have such misconceptions.

Ishita is shown as getting her molestor home like what is that n y? N she ties him Rakhi etc.

Ishita forgives her husband who manhandled her in 2 secs in nok jhoks.

Ishita gets molested at a party n doesnt take action against it.

I know people's counter argument is that none of the other family members her husband or in laws or parents r doing anything about it etc.

But educated women r shown as weak n taking anything in the name of forgiveness and righteousness etc.

Mihika a strong educated female is shown as walking in a trap herself, she is hell bent on proving a point to Shagun, she is literally letting Ashok abuse her for Shagun.

Then CVs make Ishita say things like Its gud I got molested coz Simmi understood what a pervert her husband is.

this looks like ya girls want this as they r ok with it if someone molest her or rape her.

When our Tv n films r showing such things then people n their sensibilities get affected coz of Popular culture.


You have summed it up perfectly. Women need to learn how to respect themselves and in this show both Ishita and Mihika do not seem to get that. I am not saying that they deserve what they got, but when you knowingly (in the case of Mihika) put yourself in such a situation, and bait the other person (again Mihika), it gives out the wrong message and in my opinion is why girls are often blamed for something that isn't their fault at all. As far as Ishita is concerned, I loved how she stood up against Param when he first tried to assault her, because it sent out a message of how strong a women she is but bringing him back, letting things that Param,Ashok and Suraj did at the party go for the sake of family is just not acceptable.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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mihika has got more support from his family side....
its not the case like ishitha...
when she said about molest by param no one believed her...
so she was forced to act independently...
but mihika got more people surrounded to share...
why she acted independently for this unwanted
creepy exposure??????????
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Well said ! No women deserves rape period.There are no ifs and buts to it.

YHM was a unique show where the female lead was a strong independent working women and was never scared to fight for her rights...now YHM is all about drama where she puts up with abusive behavior and is ready to forget for the sake of family
I am disapointed to see where women are putting up with abuses,attempt to martial rape,molest and behaving normal with the people responsible for such acts.

Equally disapointed to see that all the men in YHM expect Mr Bhalla and Bala commiting crimes aganist women...Param is a habitual sex offender , Surag and Ashok have equally disguisting thoughts when it comes to women ...can force a lady to sleep with his clients for a deal...Romi goes around sleeping with different women...and Raman verbally abuses his wife and attempts to rape her ...

None of these people are held accountable for their acts.They are forgiven and accepted back...

During Param track we got to see where family members were not shying to report crimes like rape.. Bala encouraged Ishita to go ahead and file rape case...now one is bothered about encouraging a victim to fight aganist those criminals...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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In your opinion what should have happened... during that encounter

Ashok should have begged for forgiveness and let her go?

Mihika should have reformed him with a speech?

Do you agree the way she endangered herself was sheer stupidity?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Was Mihika actually sexually assaulted?

I have a feeling Ashok made it look like he "slept" with Mihika so Shagun will call off the marriage..chances are he will twist it and make it look like it was Mihika's doing and he was the victim

If Mihika did get raped, then I wonder what the CV have in store for Mihir and Mihika??

There is a camera set up in the room ...wonder if that will show what actually happened


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: columbia

@mayu1982

The point I think the postmaker is making is do you need a show to tell you whether it's wrong or right???? So in the context of the show if you find mihika deserves what she got, every time in real life we shall search For context.

And my point is If we are the type who find it wrong no matter what then believe me we will stop watching. Those of us who look for reasons to stay on be it ishra or love of the concept or watched it from beginning are all contextual people.

That is why I posed the question in my post.
In fact in recent Satyamev Jayate they are talking about this only!



Sorry to butt in Columbia u were addressing Mayu but just thought to share what I feel about this issue. Maybe I am wrong or right dunno but still 😳

We all get the point Topic maker is making and agreeing to it too. That no woman deserves Sexual harrassment no matter who does it.

But when it comes to sympathisizing with Victims of sexual harrassment in this case Mihika, I as a woman am really not able to do it. Its horrendous that someone gets raped but look at the irony in this case the victim herself walked into the trap knowingly herself. She deserves really no sympathy coz she knew what kind of Man Ashok is, he molested her own sister n the dialogues that CVs gave to her was so sleazy as if she is luring him to bed. This in my honest opinion is wrong portrayal of Character called Mihika - before she was shown as someone who wud not take any Shit from any guy etc.

In some way or other CVs have shown so many things indirectly, Ishita getting molested when she wears western dresses, a Pativrata Nari taking insults n manhandling from her husband, a victim of molestation is made to tie a Rakhi to her molester n the molester after being the brother again molests her at another given chance. This actually amounts to Victim blaming.

Is this not regressive? Being a victim shud I just empathize with a character just coz she is a woman? That way I shud empathize with morally wrong woman like Shagun too coz she too is a woman (which by the way the cvs r now hinting at by making Bhalla clan attend her wedding)

I too watch Satyamev Jayate but then look at the overall portrayal of women in movies or Tv serials or ads, women r used to sell Men's perfume and Shaving Kits etc. Somewhere Pop culture is also responsible for this thought of Victim bashing and blaming.

Answering to ur question of whether people will bail out or not, I think to a point yes I am getting tired of this serial and slowly I am moving towards giving up on serial. But I really want to c Ishra journey to a certain point (confession). But now m thinking of leaving it even before that.

But here the main point is not - if u dont like this serial its message then dont watch it, rather my point is CVs should show certain things responsibly coz it somewhere affects peoples sensibilities.



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