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Posted: 10 years ago
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N ya talking about today's Ishra scene, it was placed as a cliffhanger for viewers to come back n understand what Raman tells Ishita on Monday.

I know it from BTS that Raman tells Ishita that he was not looking at Shagun but Ishita only (as Ishita was standing right next to Shagun).

But the way it was shown today from camera angles etc is to portray that Raman still has feelings for Shagun so that the general viewers r confused n they will try to catch what happens next.

Today's Ishra scene was similar to Mani Ishita BFF relationship which was force fed to us to show that Mani is really an integral part of Ishita's life and she cant solve her problems without him (gas, washing machine, getting husband from road, Romika problem, Shagun marriage problems etc) 😆

Basically its just a STUPID ploy of creating drama nothing else.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy

If Mani was the most important person in her life ...she would not be dealing with Raman and his problems and would not have fallen in love with him...no one could stop her from going to Mani ...she was taking Mani's help for Raman ...whether it is right or wrong is different ...but her intentions were to save Raman...atleast she wasn't checking out Mani like Raman does...

It is unfair to blame Ishita alone for taking Ruhi after Mehindi's incident ...Raman is equally responsible for this...Ruhi is Raman's daugther as well...if Ishita is not making right decisions when it comes to Ruhi ...Raman can very well stop her but he didnt even oppose the idea...i feel its unfair to question Ishita's love towards Ruhi for this one incident alone...



OK... Meghz /mnr has busted your theory that he was staring at Ishita according to some OLVs apparently... so there... looks like he was not checking Shagun out afterall


If we want to blame Raman for everything Ishita does then I have no answers yy (is there a name?)
I just dont... He said "Please dont go to the event AFTER the Hen Party abuse" She shot his advice down by saying she was doing it for Mihir


If everything is somehow Raman's fault and none of it is Ishita's then its an extremely unsatisfying, unequal, and un fulfilling marriage if I see ISHRA through your eyes...

I will for my satisfaction believe Ishita has been out of control since end of August early September... since Rakhi... and you can believe its all somehow Raman's fault

I dont hold it against you personally, like I said before you are entitled to your opinion... I just dont agree its Raman's fault... Ishita is being a maid in Shagun's wedding... I dont think I will agree to your argument that Raman should have asked her to play it low, or behave like a stranger, or arivve and leave as a guest and not get overly pally with her

Shouldnt Ishita KNOW?😕 Does Raman have to tell her everything? She seems to do MANY things with no overt or covert or explicit or implicit approvals from him, why should Raman be the one telling her she is going over board?

Cheers!! Keep writing...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kt25

Nisha - I checked out that Ishra scene from today's episode again simply because Ishita's monologue did not make any sense to me and she actually says the following: "unke puraney zakhm taaza hogaye ya unki PURANI shaadi yaad aagayi". This makes sense because Raman does not have to look at Shagun to think about his wedding with Ishita. The video I watched was HD and it was clear that she says PURANI not hamari. You might want to edit your post in page 1.


Then its MIGHTY STUPID Priye

HE HAS TOLD HER CLEARLY HE IS READY TO MAKE NEW MEMORIES by the car on the haldi ka dabba day... she looked at him that day like she has never seen him before...like he said "My car needs an oil change" "We ran out of light bulbs I am going to get some" "I hear there is a huge traffic jam near CP" or something😕😕 Oru expression kooda ille face la... like she was standing next to a street light...

Her reaction was extremely poor


So he has said it... she brought Shagun home and he YELLED "IT TOOK ME SIX YEARS TO GET RID OF HER FROM MY SYSTEM"

WHAT part of THAT does Ishita NOT get?😕


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: mnr123

Hey gud post Nisha. 😳

Frankly speaking m of the opinion that stupidity is more dangerous than sheer Evil coz somewhere Evil knows the amount of destruction or harm they want to cause and Stupidity is ignorant all the time. Evil or any other human emotion (even Love) has a reason n Stupidity has none. 😳

Anyways the overall setup whether it is of Mihika's or CVs or even viewers who contribute TRPs is just stupid IMO.

This regressive crapfest and the disintegration of Moral values in the name of TRPs etc. I mean overall portrayal of Men n Women m talking about the ones on right side (Raman Ishita etc) is questionable.

The self indulging attitude where viewers r thought of as Fools while dishing out crap after crap in the name of drama.

While all this is a shortcut to instant success but will not give u long lasting Success nor makes ur WORK worthwhile.

When I look at shows like BALH started off with a bang n cud not survive for 3 years too, m looking at Jodha Akbar started off nicely it is slowly diminishing into oblivion.

Obviously this show has a chance of 50:50 of running for 6-8 years like Saathiya/ Uttaran/ Yeh Rishta kya kehlata hai etc or turning out like the above EK shows. N I guess this 50% chance is what CVs r riding on.

My whole point of making this post was, no point in really analyzing in depth about things they show even related to Ishra 😃

Coz to create drama they can stoop down to any level, even after consummation Ishita will still feel that Raman loves someone else, Raman thinking that Ishita deserves someone else etc 😃


Well said in blue...

Coz thats pretty much where this is headed

I know there is no point in analyzing😃

Its a Saturday... its cold out... they did not give me any ISHRA to gush over DIVAN is gutted now... alls left is the creative genius of the YHM itself so decided to sink my teeth in


I can be at my gushy best... they have to give me fodder for it... if not I will fire from all cylinders to critique the garbage they produce... though I really dont watch it or care for it.

So in order to quieten me down, they have to have 10 mins of ISHRA everyday... I hush up😳😃

I read a post that said "How can women support women getting raped"

I am thinking "You walk into a compulsive abuser/psychopath/rapist's room, sit on his bed, give him a come hither look and expect him to listen to the women's liberation bhashan and turn himself in...to the cops?
Or marry Shagun and move to Haridwar and become a pandit?
Or not marry at all but renounce worldly life and physical desire and go off to live like a monk?"
WHAT DID Mihika expect?😕😲



THERE ARE SOME EXTREMELY BAD PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.
Stupid women will pay a price for enticing them... Mihika ENTICED him👏👏

NOT EXPECTING HIM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE is moronic... talk to any law enforcement official or attorney or women's activist. NOT ONE will agree that enticing such a guy WITH NO BACKUP OR PROTECTION OR HIDDEN CAMERAS is a good idea🤢😡

So I am happy the outcome is what it is... because it will prove as a deterrent to countless idiots that are itching to try it in the real world👏👏


Edited by Nisha0604 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604


OK... Meghz /mnr has busted your theory that he was staring at Ishita according to some OLVs apparently... so there... looks like he was not checking Shagun out afterall

Lets see if that prediction comes true..even i have seen the bytes ... Lets see if Raman is just covering up or he is really looking at Ishita...if he was looking at Ishita and since Ishita was looking at him their eyes should have met but his eyes were looking at a different directions ..i cant get that logic


If we want to blame Raman for everything Ishita does then I have no answers yy (is there a name?)
I just dont... He said "Please dont go to the event AFTER the Hen Party abuse" She shot his advice down by saying she was doing it for Mihir

Sorry to say but its other way round..I have seen posts where Ishita is being blamed for everything ...if Raman is staring at his ex wife Ishita is blamed for misunderstanding ...if Shagun taunts Raman ,Ishita is blamed for not standing up for him ...Raman tries to force himself on Ishita then again she is blamed...she is blamed when Raman attends his ex marriage ...she just shared her opnion of why she would attend functions even after the party ..its her decision ...never did she force him to tag along ...

In short ,why blame Ishita for attending someone's marriage who destroyed Raman's life when Raman himself is ready to do the same .I never said he needs to stop Ishita ...

Did Raman take any action aganist his son ?He doesnt have to do that for Ishita but atleast as a father has he done something to correct him...he completly forget all that ...just like Ishita he is being Mahaan too and seems to be enjoying all the functions ...my point is Raman is giving tough competition to Ishita in being Mahaan...

If everything is somehow Raman's fault and none of it is Ishita's then its an extremely unsatisfying, unequal, and un fulfilling marriage if I see ISHRA through your eyes...

I never said it's Raman's fault alone ...both have done mistakes...difference is

Excatly my point too , both have done mistakes but the difference i find is lately Ishita has realised her mistakes and takes steps to correct it ...she doesnt hesistate to say sorry ...I was dissapointed when Raman didnt aplologise for attempting to rape her ?or for his speech where he unnecessarily brought Shagun and gave Shagun some kind of satisfaction that she still holds some space in Raman's life?

My problem with Raman is he gives confusing signals ...he looks uncomfortable when Ishita hugged him (kidnap scene)..his behaviour at the end of rain dance...lately I am liking this sensitive Raman who atleast doesnt hurt someone with his disguisting one liners...and is realising his mistakes but he still gives us confused signals ...I remember his new memories dialogue but at the same time i also remember his fake confessions,his dialogue where he claims that only people bitten by mad dogs can fall in love with Ishita and ...it's confusing and as viewer(not as a fan) i am confused about his feelings.

Somewhere I cant forget what all he did during accident track..trusting Shagun over Ishita ...spending time with Shagun and ignoring Ishita...he immediately forgot all the pain he caused Ishita and was back to his normal self ...


I will for my satisfaction believe Ishita has been out of control since end of August early September... since Rakhi... and you can believe its all somehow Raman's fault

I dont hold it against you personally, like I said before you are entitled to your opinion... I just dont agree its Raman's fault... Ishita is being a maid in Shagun's wedding... I dont think I will agree to your argument that Raman should have asked her to play it low, or behave like a stranger, or arivve and leave as a guest and not get overly pally with her

I never said Raman should have stopped her ..or blamed Raman for Ishita's act .All i said was Raman was not totally aganist Ishita attending fucntions ...somewhere he also wanted to attend functions for Mihir sake.

Shouldnt Ishita KNOW?😕 Does Raman have to tell her everything? She seems to do MANY things with no overt or covert or explicit or implicit approvals from him, why should Raman be the one telling her she is going over board?

I never said Raman should have stopped her ..or blamed Raman for Ishita's act .All i said was Raman was not totally aganist Ishita attending fucntions ...somewhere he also wanted to attend functions for Mihir sake.

Cheers!! Keep writing...

I have conveyed all my thoughts in this post and have also realised that the main problem I have with Raman is he still somewhere has a soft corner for Shagun ...and can dump Ishita for Adi...somehere I feel Ishita deserves better than this in life ...

It might be last post for the day as I would not like to bug everyone by writing the the same points again unless i need to say someting different than what i wrote before

Edited by yyyy - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604


Then its MIGHTY STUPID Priye

HE HAS TOLD HER CLEARLY HE IS READY TO MAKE NEW MEMORIES by the car on the haldi ka dabba day... she looked at him that day like she has never seen him before...like he said "My car needs an oil change" "We ran out of light bulbs I am going to get some" "I hear there is a huge traffic jam near CP" or something😕😕 Oru expression kooda ille face la... like she was standing next to a street light...

Her reaction was extremely poor


So he has said it... she brought Shagun home and he YELLED "IT TOOK ME SIX YEARS TO GET RID OF HER FROM MY SYSTEM"

WHAT part of THAT does Ishita NOT get?😕



I agree but I think in my first post that I had written the same where I feel that she is totally unrelatable simply because she was this confident Mrs. Raman Kumar Bhalla who knew the exact thing to say about her marriage, her in-laws and her husband to put Mani in place. Today, her monolgue was totally contradicting her own stand that she took couple of days ago. This monologue is force fed to accomodate the future track when Raman distances himself from her. This way they can justify her thinking that Raman was never into her.
Edited by kt25 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

I have NO idea when this scene will happen or what will cause it to happen

Since Raman has decided to abandon Ishita, lets say she moves back to her parents.
Dont ask me any logical questions, I have no answers😕😆

I promised P&C I will write a snippet to cheer her up... I can continue if you like it P&C😃

*******




She stepped out of the surgery room, pulling her scrubs sleeves off her arm,
it tightened around her bangles, and pulled on the solitaire, with a frustrated rant she yanked harder...
Her cell phone rang... it was Amma "Ishu eppo varey?" when will u get home?"
"Amma I just got out of surgery, its a little girl like Ruhi abhi hosh nahi aaya"
"Kya hua?"
"Kuch nahi ingrown tooth tha, it got infected" Ishita began explaining

"Seri ada vidu Idu, usko chhodo, maine usko call kiya"
"Kisko Amma"

Santoshi ko Raman ke scehdule poochne ke liye" said Amma softly

Ishita's heart skipped a beat, it always did that...
she saw him pull out of the parking lot, she saw him drive up sometimes at night.
She avoided coming to the living room when he stopped by to see Ruhi. They "saw" each other through the car's rear view mirrors only...
it was a different rear view in his bedroom mirror... happy times...

"Ishu?"
"Hmmm"
"Ishu woh tumhe karega tum usko details de dena"
"AMMMA I dont want to talk to him. Night stand la vechen ella details on a Post It" irritated

"I couldnt find it" Mrs Iyer lied, she had asked the maid to sweep it up this morning
"Amma I will call Romi"
"Woh Chandigarh gaya hai Santoshi ne bola" Mrs Iyer smirked, and concealed it quick
"Seri veyngo phone a, rakhiye aap" Ishita hung up sombrely

She walked back to her desk... tapped tghe space key, Ruhi giggled in a still... Raman smirked on the bed...she quickly opened the patient's log... erasing that view
She spent an hour on it between looking up Raman's name on her phone, vs answering the surgical and billing assistant...
sending the patient and parent away.

She washed her hands unnecessarily... twice... reached for her phone, and tapped his name...

It rang once... his ringtone was The Men's "Bataille"... the opening tune...
"Raman" he said preoccupied... as if in a meeting

She didnt utter a word... Hello" he said gruffly😳
She realized he had no idea who it was.. and his attention was elsewhere
"Ummm... Raman" she said softly😳

She wasnt sure if she heard an implosion or a colorful curse, in that husky voice... or a door shut or hushed voices or Mihir saying "i got this" in the background

The background noise died instantaneously " ISHITA?" he asked incredulously😳

she didnt respond...
"ISHITA?" he repeated as if he loved saying it.. he never called her Ishu, always ISHITA, angry sensuous, bold, flirty, argumentative, frustrated it was always ISHITA
"Raman" she said... as if they had called each other to chant the names

Back and forth..,.
"I am sorry" she said...
His jaw dropped... he stared at the Gurgaon traffic 20 storeys down... it was a muggy December afternoon, not at all cold...
He needed a smoke... he thought..
She would kill him but he needed it
"I mean I am sorry aap busy the" she reworded her request...
"Ruhi" she said
"what happened to her?"

"She has a thing at school tomorrow, and then offsite and then back at school, subah" she began her bhashan

"ishita" he stopped her
"Aap busy ho?" angry
"Did u call to fight?"
"No we were doing that already" she said... sadly
"Ishita" he pleaded..."I"
"Amma kitta sonnen, I told him you wont be able to" angry at her Amma...
"Will you let me talk?' he asked MAD...
"Raman"
"I was heading to Chandigarh" he started...

"Phir koi baat nahi" she caved... disappointed...
"Ishita...why did u not signal when u turned left this morning?"
"Kya matlab?" she asked confused.,
"Woh auto waala bilkul tumhaare peeche tha You dont signal correctly" dismissive
"Thanks for the tip, can you do her school thing?" nonchalant
"If you plan to get yourself killed because we are separated, plan it well" barking
"I am hiring someone to kill you instead" she said boldly😡
"I prefer dying if you committed the crime"😳
"Well...You cant afford me" she said coldly😭
There was a huge silence... he knew she meant more than fee for killing...
"Kitne bajey hai kal?" he asked...
"7"
"Are u coming?" hopeful
"Nahi, ek cap fitting hai ek ladki ka"
SUBAH SAATH BAJE?" "Is she auditioning with Karan Johar?" ridiculing her frustrated he has to push his trip out..

"No with Imitiaz Ali" she said hanging up...






No no...she wont be going back to her parents; house..that wud be too too simple for Ekta's taste..she wil probably get 'hitched" to MANI...to "get away from all this"

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Posted: 10 years ago
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OK... Meghz /mnr has busted your theory that he was staring at Ishita according to some OLVs apparently... so there... looks like he was not checking Shagun out afterall


If we want to blame Raman for everything Ishita does then I have no answers yy (is there a name?)
I just dont... He said "Please dont go to the event AFTER the Hen Party abuse" She shot his advice down by saying she was doing it for Mihir


If everything is somehow Raman's fault and none of it is Ishita's then its an extremely unsatisfying, unequal, and un fulfilling marriage if I see ISHRA through your eyes...

I will for my satisfaction believe Ishita has been out of control since end of August early September... since Rakhi... and you can believe its all somehow Raman's fault

I dont hold it against you personally, like I said before you are entitled to your opinion... I just dont agree its Raman's fault... Ishita is being a maid in Shagun's wedding... I dont think I will agree to your argument that Raman should have asked her to play it low, or behave like a stranger, or arivve and leave as a guest and not get overly pally with her

Shouldnt Ishita KNOW?😕 Does Raman have to tell her everything? She seems to do MANY things with no overt or covert or explicit or implicit approvals from him, why should Raman be the one telling her she is going over board?

Cheers!! Keep writing...

In the beginning even if they fought tooth and nail over everything I always felt that they were equals in marriage. Both good at certain things, stupid about other, but still together seemed perfect. Seemed like a perfect balance. But, since the advent of Mani and the jealousy track the scales have started tipping.

Ishita did all sorts of stupidity related with Mani and then to justify her (coz in Indian shows female lead can never be wrong ) they showed Raman doing some heinous things! Which he wudnt, if they had cared to understand their own character. To save one character,they butchered the other.

And since then all Raman has been doing is worshipping the Goddess he's got married to. Now the marriage isnt of equals. One is the most Mahaan, selfless Devi u can find and the other feels he's some bumbling useless fellow who doesnt deserve her. He has his insecurities (which they have tapped in on time and again) but that doesnt mean that they can show Raman as continuoulsy moping around her, while Ishita is still shown as Perfection!! What happened to the nice balanced relationship???? A marriage is union of two equals, not this!!!!

So true!! She has always done what she thinks is right, never taking into consideration anyone else (But she's always been like that) She thinks only from the Pov of the one suffering not how it'll effect all others.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kt25

Nisha - I checked out that Ishra scene from today's episode again simply because Ishita's monologue did not make any sense to me and she actually says the following: "unke puraney zakhm taaza hogaye ya unki PURANI shaadi yaad aagayi". This makes sense because Raman does not have to look at Shagun to think about his wedding with Ishita. The video I watched was HD and it was clear that she says PURANI not hamari. You might want to edit your post in page 1.


yes!! that;s what I was wondering...Ishita being Ishita, she wouldnt think about her shaadi, at any rate...in her mind Raman is stll not over "purani shaadi" and "purane zakhm"

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