Adi *Updated* - Page 9

Originally posted by: columbia

Post to the point!

Frankly I am surprised with the slight depth that the cvs dealt with it, the cvs pendulum too much into trp drama and then suddenly there will be flashes of wow! Not bad!

I actually pity the cvs this lot actually wants to show some good writing and goos storyline but they get swayed by trp every second episode.

the plot stays trp driven giving completely brainless scenes so that's why mihika-shagun-mihir; Ashok-anyone else!!!

but the episodes provide little pieces of magic ---

(Ishita-toshi; adi-raman; simi-Param)

And when you string the episode together it's like face palm!

All I can say is Ashok is a terrible actor but the guy who plays Param smooth like butter, that villain is something else

Originally posted by: -Payal-

Just going through everything you guys have been discussing here, and I find myself in tears over the emotions of father & son today (I dunno why I'm so deeply moved by it...)

I would respond to each post individually but I would end up repeating myself, so I thought I'd just address it all in one post...I have to do bullet-points.

• I do empathize with Adi in all of this, how can you not? If Raman is helpless in the face of this mess, Adi is a mere victim of the adults in his life. This child is misguided and it breaks my heart to think that he has no one to turn to. I just want to give him a bone-crushing hug and tell him he's got it all so very wrong.

• Doc, you mentioned you think that Adi is a victim largely of himself. I have to disagree. I think he's largely a victim of the lies & misconceptions that he's been fed all his life regarding his father and his father's family. When his parents divorced, he was used as a pawn against his father, and ever since, he's been made to believe that his mother (the only constant in his life) is a victim of circumstance. I can't begin to fathom how confused and afraid he must be when it comes to his life and relationships as they stand today - and what will become of them in the days to come.

• I agree that Raman is not at fault...mainly owing to the restraining order - I think if not for that, he would have brought heaven and earth together to ensure he didn't lose all contact with his son and that his son had proper guidance. Unfortunately for him, his child, his baby was used against him, turned against him. Adi misunderstanding his father love, and the depth of it, is so very heartbreaking. And Raman is but a father who refuses to give up on his baby. Despite his child's constantly pushing him away, spitting venom at him, RKB refuses to give up...as any parent would. For a parent's love to be misunderstood by their child. I cannot think of anything nearly as unfortunate.

• Hema, I agree - he's not deprived of "love" for Shagun's love for him cannot be doubted. But the fact is, her love is not one that is very nurturing...if it was, Adi wouldn't be so far gone as he is today. I elaborated in my post, but for a mother to fill her child with hatred for his father? I don't care if you don't get along with the father of your children - the children should NOT be dragged into it. - I can use Ishu as a comparison here...even when she and RKB were at odds, she always reassured Ruhi of Raman's love for her - she never spoke ill of RKB to Ru. That's where Shagun and her love has failed Adi. She's using him to get back at RKB...and giving the child materialistic things to make up for emotional void. Adi is loved - by RKB, Toshi and Mr. Bhalla, Ishita...but unfortuately, he's blind to that love...he's been blindfolded by his mother. Shagun is depriving him and she doesn't really realize it.

• Gan, I couldn't agree more with what you said about RKB's ownership of Adi's misdeeds. As a parent, you hold yourself responsible for your child and his actions whether you are a constant presence in his life or not. Its in the very nature of a parent...and for Raman to have failed his marriage, and therefore his children, his guilt will not be laid to rest. He will blame himself for Adi's state of mind for years to come. Too much damage has been done.

KP...what to say? I remember in an interview when the show started he said RKB was hard for him to relate too cause he's a divorcee with two kids, while he himself is single and obviously, not a father. Its simply unbelievable how he is able to get under the skin of this character. His eyes, his body-language where unbelievable today. Especially in that last moment when he tried to reach out to him and Adi jerked himself back...the way KP emoted that scene, I felt like someone just punched me in the gut.

Ok...I have to stop or else the tears will not. Thank you guys for this space...and for sharing your thoughts.

🤗

Originally posted by: maan-and-geet

Adi's problem is caused by shagun and her selfishness the most... Yes she loves Adi but she loves herself more... she is so wrapped in finding her perfect life that she has forgotten that her son needs more than just money

Originally posted by: Ohgod!

Gan, Doc, Payal and all others 🤗 I fel like hugging you all for such wonderful posts!!

I have always believed that Adi has been the worst affected in the entire divorce/custody battle.. Ruhi was a child and had her family. Raman drowned himself in sorrow and chose to stay away from his family and daughter. Shagun never needed anyone.. What she did need was money and a better lifestyle and that she got! But at 6 years, for a kid to be taken away from a family, fed hatred, sent to a boarding school - to fight his thoughts, his fears, his abandonment all by himself is beyond any imagination.. What must a child go through in those years of loneliness with only memories of fighting parents? How can any child understand why his father would just abandon him for saying a lie? How can any child understand a restraining order? To Adi, Raman is a father who fought for his sister but left him alone.

Remember the time during Hoi, Adi was shown a happy smiling enjoying family - Raman, Ishita and Ruhi applying colours and smiling away. How can a kid not think that he too had the right to such a familly? How can he not blame his father for not doing all that for him?

Somwehere down the line - despite all the hatred filled in him by Shagun, this kid craves his father's love but is angry at being left alone. That could also explain why he has been rude to Ruhi.

Yes Raman is not to be blamed in all of this, but i wonder what Raman did between finding out about Shagun's betrayal and getting a restraining order? Was he too lost in depression or did he pay any attention to his son to explain to him that irrespective of what happens between his parents, he would always be there as a father?

Originally posted by: hemanshi

So G, here i was, blissfully unaware that you have unleashed this man on IF for all of us to just swooon..When someone (ahem payal ahem) had to let me know of that. And so here I am trying to find this scene and watch it for the millionth time! Though I must say for me the Proposal scene is the best!!

When he is jealous and he says "oh there have been others"..If words/eyes/demeanor/ could kill..*sigh*

You know this might actually be good, I have sort of been a Karanaholic the last few days..I need a break from him and who better then Richard Armitage.😳

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Yes Armitage comes from theater background and man does he know how to use voice modulation to maximum effect...

I had to take a break because while replying to the posts.. The thoughts about the last scene between raman and Adi was getting to me...and let's just say I was feeling better

Originally posted by: munnihyderabad

I just finished watching the episode after a lot of apprehensions post the initial reviews, but glad I watched it, for it has the most poignant scene showcasing the despair, the helplessness, the neglected feelings of a desolate child, who is the outcome of an estranged parents.

Wonderful post, you keep them short and convey a whole lot of message, kudos 👏⭐️

It was no doubt a harsh episode, but the father son confrontation scene was so poignant, these are such scenes which highlight the plot from time to time.

I am very impressed with the creatives and the writers for showing a desolate kids point of view, which forms the crux of the show. The kids are like play dough (soft clay), which is molded gently and attentively into a shape using both the hands(parents) , if the hands are not together(separated parents) and if we want to make a beautiful toy (with one hand/one parent) , it is almost impossible to shape the toy, and here the other hand also left it out (as in Shagun never hand time) when she had time and tried to reprimand him, with a slap in the jail, the soft clay rolled out of that one hand, only to be picked up the devious lot and there by shattering the objective of pretty toy

Adi inspite of doing every wrong, cannot be held responsible, as kids are not in a situation to understand what is right and what is wrong, that is why they are called kids, they do not see the entire picture, they hold just a puzzle of a picture and look at it and assume the rest of the pieces which feed their thoughts .This is when the process of inculcating the teachings of difference between good and bad, right or wrong, comes into picture. but due to the separated parents, lack of time and attention, Adi is picked up by wrong hands of the environment and yes, the effect and influence of it on his juvenile brain is only harming him as an individual.

Such an obnoxious behavior in a pre-teen kid is shocking to see for us as a third person and devastating for each of the parent, but this is damn TRUE, this is how kids turn out when they are not nurtured, attended at the right time with TLC. Adi, who always thought his mom is there with him, hated on Raman, now when his mom reprimanded him for the first time, he thinks she too doesn't care for him, he questions and confronts his father, tells him point blank that none cares for him, no one loves him, everyone has there own life, and he goes to the extent of saying "like many other kids, he too would lead a life without parents"these were very strong words, indeed harsh for any parent to even hear once from their kid .

They have to handle Adi in a very tender and gentle way, any type of force or harsh stringent behavior will only lead him on the worse path.

Adi being a kid, I can only feel sorry for him and be compassionate and try to understand him rather than blame him for everything gone wrong, because what Adi is doing is the effect of lack of proper nurture, which is shown in his today's nature which is the effect. At the end kids cannot be held responsible for what is right or wrong, they can only be told and corrected what is right and what is wrong.

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This quote is soo perfect here,and the collage displays the same⭐️ where Raman was furious, Adi was scared, but the moment Adi was furious, Raman is in a state of shock .

"Sometimes, kids want you to hurt the way they hurt."

~Mitch Albom

Originally posted by: paru_rox

Ganu ...there are so many aspects to Adi's story.

Yes he is the result of a broken marriage but not all broken marriages lead to a kid with so issues bordering on sociopath traits. With Adi, the problem was more than that. It was the "love" which he received without boundaries. A mother who loves him but with all her selfishness manipulates that love. A father who loves him and would go over the edge (especially earlier) but majorly to appease his sense of guilt. I for one always saw Raman's love for Adi overloaded with guilt due to many reasons - guilt for not being able to give him material things 6 yrs ago guilt for being helpless enough to lose him 6 yrs ago, guilt for not having had the chance to love him all these years. Thankfully RKB seems to have come out of this phase *phew*. He loves his son but has removed those guilt covered glasses & sees what he has become.

And this is what I want. What has happened, has happened. No point crying over spilt milk. What is needed now is - therapy.
I am unable to sympathize with him any longer for many reasons. One of them being the lack of conscience on his part. This is something every person whether a child or adult has. The fact that he hurt himself just to get back at someone had alarm bells ringing coz that is clearly NOT normal behavior. The kid needs therapy, immediately. Also he needs a major reality check with things being spelled out to him. Facts like Shagun was the one who left Raman and also Ruhi. Ishita was no where near the duo at that point of time. He needs to be TOLD things coz clearly his mind had multiple confusions on where everyone stands in his life.

I agreed completely with something Raman said yesterday - Adi needs to be treated as an adult and he needs to understand that every wrong of his will not be ignored.

I no longer see him as a child and thus am unable to sympathies/empathize from his outlook (something which I usually can do without issues). Thus the one sided view coz I honestly believe that "why it happened" is no longer important in this case, its the "What should be done" which is more important.

Originally posted by: Scribble_Tweety

The quote you added was so right. Children try to hurt the way they get hurt. Truly true. Adi is helpless, devoid of his mother's attention. He has never been loved the way normal children get love. It is miraculous to see that a child who was never given love is capable of it and the sheer proof of this is the moment he burns his hand for his mother. Poison or no poison, the son is inherently like the father. His love is selfless. If guided right he could be a perfect mirror image of raman.

And did i mention that the Barun signature you have added at the end is sooo adorable😳

Originally posted by: Eyes-Wide-Shut

And you didn't wanna post yesterday 🤔

Your post got everyone discussing and having an intelligent conversation, it made me go take my nieces, nephews and cousins in a bone crushing hug. At dinner last night I talked about this post of yours with family and thanked my parents sincerely for showering me with unconditional love and support during my childhood. 😊

Thanks for posting and giving us all a platform to share our feelings. 🤗