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Posted: 10 years ago

#51

Originally posted by: -Payal-

"There is nothing like wounded affection for giving poignancy to anger." - Elizabeth Gaskell

I'm so glad you made a post today (thanks, Doc!)...I need the space today - to ponder a father's plight...and a child's fate.
More later.

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UPDATED:

I got carried away once I started trying to collect my thoughts after today's episode. It turned into a 4 page word document, so I made it a stand-alone post. Here's the link:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/ye-hai-mohabbatein/4227839/contemplating-the-repercussions-of-a-broken-marriage

Thank you!!

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EDIT ADD:

Gan, I love the collage...especially the two expressions on RKB's face. One of a father who knows he desperately needs to show his son the error of his ways...and one of a father who has just realized that maybe it's too late.

The episode hit home for me today and left me deeply moved. I felt more for RKB than Adi today, mainly beacuse, as Doc said, RKB has simply been helpless in the face of it all...but I can't imagine. I'm not married, or a parent, so I cannot imagine what he must be going through right now. What I do know, is that I desperately want these two to find a way to med their broken relationship - to clear the misunderstandings and be there for each other through all of this - in a way that only they can - as father and son.

Raman's love as Adi's father is going to be crucial in helping Adi overcome years of misguided anger and hatred. Adi's coming back to Raman, accepting him, will finally help to calm the last of Raman's demons from his failed first marriage.

Love.
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Payal:
Thanks re for that beautiful write up..Just commented over there.

And about you and Doc relating more to RKB, I fully get it. See this is what I like about YHM...their subtle scenes are so full of emotions, each of us relate to it based on our own real life experiences and understanding...there is never a wrong way to react.

Agree 100% with @bold.
Thanks re

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angelcutie09

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Posted: 10 years ago

#52

Poor Adi, I cried for him today. 😒 No child should suffer like this. It's good Raman got to finally

understand him a little better now. He just needs love and affection.

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-Gan-

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Posted: 10 years ago

#53

Originally posted by: -Hima-
Thanks for the post Gan! I actually liked tonight's episode because of Adi lashing out at his father.

This was so needed for him to be saved by his father and his step-mom.. the one who he hates as per today. I have been feeling for this boy ever since Ishita stopped Shagun from slapping Ruhi at Mehendi.. he felt left out.. he saw that day the bond that existed between Ruhi and Ishita.. he felt he did not share such a bond with anyone.. not even Shagun! The day he sent Ishita to jail by burning his hand showed how much he was actually hurting.. he feels all alone! And again this sms he sent to Ishita was out of more hatred towards her as he feels that she was the one responsible for distancing Ruhi from his mother and now the one trying to distance him from his mother too!

Today, when he came into the room with the three kameenas taking pleasure in Ishita's plight, Adi did not want to talk to Ashok or Suraj.. he did not want to talk in front of them, infact.. he wanted to talk to Param alone as he knows what Ashok and Suraj were plotting against Shagun.. I am surprised though that he did not tell Shagun about that conversation.. that is exactly the problem.. the kid does not feel that he has ANYONE to talk to.. not even his mother! He cannot share such an important thing like the Ashok-Suraj conversation about her with her!

The way Param manipulated Adi today was cringe worthy.. the boy is having to deal with what Adults deal with and nothing childish about that! Felt sorry for his state tonight!

Raman finally understood how much Adi is hurting with his outburst tonight.. hope he does something for his son soon! It was a plight of a father when he realised how much his son is affected by his and Shagun's breakup and re-marriages!

Absolutely agree with what you've written here Hima .. Nothing to add👏

Divorce and children of broken marriages are poignant in today's indian society .. Though it's still taboo in tells land... It's good to see a show dealing with those complex relations ... And till now have not faltered in maintaining thr subtlety it requires... Yes there are mihika Assoak melodrama ...Shagun Assoak marriage fiasco... But it's moments like these that drive the core story... I enjoy that .. And so long the CVs don't mess that up majorly... It's quite a journey .

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Posted: 10 years ago

#54

Originally posted by: sweety_virgo1
Nice Post 👏 Agreed 👍🏼
Today really felt bad for that child who is totally ignored by his parents and has no guidance at all 😔

I beg to differ that he's totally ignored by his parents😆.. Raman and his family have always tried to be part of his life... It's all Shagun and Assoak 's doing that there was that restraining order against Raman so he could not reach out to his son... But he always has tried to make contact and though adi has humiliated him repeatedly... He has never ignored his needs ... Just that Adi's young mind has been so much filled with negativity about raman and his family .. The only things he feels for his dad is disdain and anger .. As somehow he thinks Raman's to be blamed for his plight. Hope I make sense😳

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Posted: 10 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: nebuna
Broken marriage and its revelations more than the couple involved with marriage the kid has been suffering and it is coming out slowly ...now will this be reality check for the couple who have been feeling only about themselves and their past and least cared for the kids emotional feelings.
It is coming out now hitting deep the father first ...
My question is this the reason for raman wanting to split up with ishitha

I think I just responded to your previous poster about Raman's responsibily in Adi's current state... As I said I don't blame it on Raman at all as his hands were tied.. His 'fault' if any, is probably not realizing how badly damaged Adi is... Today it finally hit him. I have a feeling like he did after the accident track, he's going to take care of his son... Probably with the help of Ishita.. I don't think if they separate .. Would be for this... I think if he desides to separate it would be to protect Ishita from the complications of his past but not choosing anyone over Ishita... He has a very good sense of right or wrong... And his decisions have always been to benefit his loved ones... And moving Ishita away from adi's life is not going to make Adi get better... Just my feeling

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Posted: 10 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: Raatri
thnks gun...for ur post...
...actually i always wanted a post especially dedicated for ADI _ the CHARACTER and not the CHILD ACTOR...becoz...adi...will be the strong point for ISHRA too...(future tracks..if CVs think like me)...as the serial is all about second chance of what was denied to them...till now all three-ishu, raman and ruhi...got their second chance...in a right way...of what they actually wished...and it is ADI who is still far away from that second chance.in a right sense...(he was closer to that in the name of ASHOK...but that was also a lie for him now)...
yes he hate ishu...but she will be the one who will actually help him in becoming a normal boy ...this will bring ishra closer...as adi is still special for raman ...and wants him to be a loveable boy...
lastly...since the serial also has an important issue of 'who is a good mother= one who just gave birth to a baby or the one who nurtured the others baby as a beautiful soul/human being ...so the real test for ishita's motherhood is ADI also calling her ISHIMA like Ruhi... n i guess then ishra would be complete...with their family of ishra+ ruhi...(no adi here bcoz...he will be living with his mom...but will be visiting bhalla house whenever he wants...just to have sambar rasam...n chicken😆)

N: sorry if got bored...actually ye reply post mera adi ke liye dedication lag raha hain...😊

No not at all bored..that would be wonderful if the CVs take the story that way... Because YHM has been about healing of its main charscters.. And Adi, however bad he is... Is just a confused boy who needs healing. for him to bridge bonds with the loving family he already has, but doesn't realize yet. And I feel we'll see that journey of too...

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Posted: 10 years ago

#57

Originally posted by: -Payal-

I have read. And seen the series...*sigh*...

The station scene in the series is better than scene in the book.. Armitage is another guy with very expressive eyes... And the way he looks at her.. ☺️ Totally gone

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Posted: 10 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..
See, I don't hate Adi. He is a child who has been led astray by the adults around him, and right now he is not responsible for his actions. Param is responsible, yes, but ultimate responsibility is Shagun's, because she molded her son like this. She taught her son to be manipulative, bitter and hold grudges. If Adi was raised better, he would never have agreed to Param's plan. Param is your typical bad guy, but the main reason behind Adi's bad deeds is Shagun and Shagun only. She may not have told him to humiliate Ishita yesterday, but is she responsible for his actions? YES.

Yes I agree Shagun's narcissism... And her spiteful manipulative nature conpbined with all the material things she showered on him in place of family and it's security a child craves... All has led to adi's character being so wrong...now raman with the help of will probably take over and try bring him back to being the child that he is... That is another journey I hope we get

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Posted: 10 years ago

#59

Just going through everything you guys have been discussing here, and I find myself in tears over the emotions of father & son today (I dunno why I'm so deeply moved by it...)

I would respond to each post individually but I would end up repeating myself, so I thought I'd just address it all in one post...I have to do bullet-points.

I do empathize with Adi in all of this, how can you not? If Raman is helpless in the face of this mess, Adi is a mere victim of the adults in his life. This child is misguided and it breaks my heart to think that he has no one to turn to. I just want to give him a bone-crushing hug and tell him he's got it all so very wrong.

Doc, you mentioned you think that Adi is a victim largely of himself. I have to disagree. I think he's largely a victim of the lies & misconceptions that he's been fed all his life regarding his father and his father's family. When his parents divorced, he was used as a pawn against his father, and ever since, he's been made to believe that his mother (the only constant in his life) is a victim of circumstance. I can't begin to fathom how confused and afraid he must be when it comes to his life and relationships as they stand today - and what will become of them in the days to come.

I agree that Raman is not at fault...mainly owing to the restraining order - I think if not for that, he would have brought heaven and earth together to ensure he didn't lose all contact with his son and that his son had proper guidance. Unfortunately for him, his child, his baby was used against him, turned against him. Adi misunderstanding his father love, and the depth of it, is so very heartbreaking. And Raman is but a father who refuses to give up on his baby. Despite his child's constantly pushing him away, spitting venom at him, RKB refuses to give up...as any parent would. For a parent's love to be misunderstood by their child. I cannot think of anything nearly as unfortunate.

Hema, I agree - he's not deprived of "love" for Shagun's love for him cannot be doubted. But the fact is, her love is not one that is very nurturing...if it was, Adi wouldn't be so far gone as he is today. I elaborated in my post, but for a mother to fill her child with hatred for his father? I don't care if you don't get along with the father of your children - the children should NOT be dragged into it. - I can use Ishu as a comparison here...even when she and RKB were at odds, she always reassured Ruhi of Raman's love for her - she never spoke ill of RKB to Ru. That's where Shagun and her love has failed Adi. She's using him to get back at RKB...and giving the child materialistic things to make up for emotional void. Adi is loved - by RKB, Toshi and Mr. Bhalla, Ishita...but unfortuately, he's blind to that love...he's been blindfolded by his mother. Shagun is depriving him and she doesn't really realize it.

Gan, I couldn't agree more with what you said about RKB's ownership of Adi's misdeeds. As a parent, you hold yourself responsible for your child and his actions whether you are a constant presence in his life or not. Its in the very nature of a parent...and for Raman to have failed his marriage, and therefore his children, his guilt will not be laid to rest. He will blame himself for Adi's state of mind for years to come. Too much damage has been done.

KP...what to say? I remember in an interview when the show started he said RKB was hard for him to relate too cause he's a divorcee with two kids, while he himself is single and obviously, not a father. Its simply unbelievable how he is able to get under the skin of this character. His eyes, his body-language where unbelievable today. Especially in that last moment when he tried to reach out to him and Adi jerked himself back...the way KP emoted that scene, I felt like someone just punched me in the gut.

Ok...I have to stop or else the tears will not. Thank you guys for this space...and for sharing your thoughts.

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-Gan-

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Posted: 10 years ago

#60

Originally posted by: Bombaytola
" Bheed mein yuun na chhodo mujhe, ghar laut ke bhi aana paau maa
Bhejna itna door mujhko tu, yaad bhi tujhko aana paau maa
Kya itna bura hoon main maa
Kya itna bura... meri maa"
G lovely post as usual. Replace maa with Paa. These were the words that came to my mind when I saw Adi's outbursts. 😭 I am a mother of 2 wonderful boys and all I could think of was how I would feel if one of my child felt like that. How hard it is to be a kid.
Sometimes all your child needs a big hug and love. there is enough discipline in the world to take care of everything else.
@ Doc Would love for u to write on Raman's state of mind. I know u can do it.

Thank you ... Yep it's heartbreaking for any parent to watch that scene.. It affects us both ways.. Being a parent we can feel what Raman was feeling.. And as a parent you want to reach out and make that kid not be so hurt and spiteful to everything ... That little scene of Raman extending him hand to make him feel better and shocked by the cold pure hatred in his own child's eye... Just heart wrenching

And you're right about Doc.. She just was fabulous... Hope you've read it

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