doobte ko tinke ka sahara...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi friends...i was in double mind..whether to post or not to...however, i thought what the heck... post kar hi deti hu...
I went thru few of the discussions in the forum...n understood most of us where dissapointed with the end of the MU track...ending in comedy...

I want to say few things which crossed my mind...specifically while raman was going thru the flashbacks.. I felt this track is not completely over..Raman was shattered thinking y ishita is lying, y is she meeting mani behind his back... n he completely shattered when he heard her confessing I love u to mani...

today when simmi clarified..her saying ILU was not clarified... however...raman's heart is rekindled with tht small hope..tht may be, may be all is not lost...

His thoughts were: 'Now I understand, y she was lying to me...now I understand Y she was meeting mani behind my back...so may be her saying ILU or hugging him is my misunderstanding...'

I felt tht was depicted in his flashback scenes.. when he was walking down the road.. at one side..he was thinking abt ishita mani hug...n again he was thinking but but but.. she seems to be in love with me...

With simmi's explanation he seemed to think tht 'may be i still have a chance'.. mind u..i dont think...Raman is again back to being confident abt his n her relationship... abt not being insecured abt mani n ishu... but thik jaise doobte ko tinke ka shahara bhi mile to woh jeene ki koshish karte haain..wese hi simmi's rant made him grasp at the straw...n not be devasted anymore...

Now I come to Ishita... she was angry n dissapointed with raman tht night..first his naming his ex wife..n then trying to be do haq jatana... all on same nite..n then questioning her character...n hence that immense indifference... but the crux of the matter is..she is that woman...who loves raman inspite of her thinking tht he still is in love with shagun...when she doesnt get angry at him for tht everyday... how can she stay angry with him for long...

When we are angry..we say too many things...we fling insult n act totally stone like even to our near ones...I dont know abt u...but i have seen myself do tht... but u cannot stay angry... ishita was disgusted initially by his behaviour at nite..trying to force... but in the morn she forgets n forgives... she knew in her heart... tht even if she wudnt have left..he wud not have gone ahead with the act... tht is not raman...

How the MU track will come to an end i dont know... but given the situation n the type of ppl they are..they restore to the Tutu main main..which they are most comfortable at in the meantime... I truly believe that what they require is a jolt from outside.. (not to force confess but to shock eachother) lest they fall into their confortable zone of teasing n taunting each other...

PS: Mind you I m nt in raman or ishita's team... coz for me they are one...
PPS: I believe having a guy frnd is not ishita's fault..the OTT hugging...well.. tht is for drama...n to create MU
PPPS: I believe tht raman is not made up of tht material tht he wud have ended up forcing himself on her... he wud have stopped.. dont think i support him in his act...i felt angry... but i knw raman n i know ishita... so i have trust... Aur baki OTT drama bazi i ignore..as tht is not their fault but CV's fault...for trp may be... n i choose to ignore all tht...

Thanks for reading... wud love to see ur thoughts... n hopefully healthy debate...

Shalini


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Posted: 10 years ago
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That's a nice post and i agree with you. Yesterday, worst direction, editing,etc... spoiled the episode...The message that cv's tried to give couldn't reach the audience...

He understands that he's at fault but he's not happy with Mani because he is able to enter that zone which is still prohibited for him... He's pining to take this relationship forward... Raman will definitely do the needed. As you said, track didn't get a closure. It'll end with this marriage track... Waiting for the HERO to come out...

Mani can't take away the credits for sure...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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What a nice post, cant keep commenting,,,
A lot has been said about Raman forcing himself to Ishita,,, Bt for me , it was not a rape attempt, it was desperate attempt a failed husband to assert his right over his wife, Yes it was asserting his right bt not a sexual harassment . Yes he closed the door, yes he untied his tie and put her down but he did all these when she tried to leave. If she ddnt leave the room, i dont think Raman would do that. One more thing, He pulled her down and please note his dialog " Meri beti ki ma hona" , i dont think Raman can never ever think of raping mother of his daughter. Also he had a different reaction after she fall down. As you said, evenif she stay der also, i dnt think much will happen . May be my belief
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: krikumar.91

That's a nice post and i agree with you. Yesterday, worst direction, editing,etc... spoiled the episode...The message that cv's tried to give couldn't reach the audience...

He understands that he's at fault but he's not happy with Mani because he is able to enter that zone which is still prohibited for him... He's pining to take this relationship forward... Raman will definitely do the needed. As you said, track didn't get a closure. It'll end with this marriage track... Waiting for the HERO to come out...

Mani can't take away the credits for sure...


thanks for commenting kri... yes ofcourse our Raman is the hero...n he is...we know tht...ishita knows it...

i agree the editing n direction was indeed bad...i guess... the original director went for chutti...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sang3241

What a nice post, cant keep commenting,,,

A lot has been said about Raman forcing himself to Ishita,,, Bt for me , it was not a rape attempt, it was desperate attempt a failed husband to assert his right over his wife, Yes it was asserting his right bt not a sexual harassment . Yes he closed the door, yes he untied his tie and put her down but he did all these when she tried to leave. If she ddnt leave the room, i dont think Raman would do that. One more thing, He pulled her down and please note his dialog " Meri beti ki ma hona" , i dont think Raman can never ever think of raping mother of his daughter. Also he had a different reaction after she fall down. As you said, evenif she stay der also, i dnt think much will happen . May be my belief


thanks a lot for liking...umm dont know ur name..

see i will just say...when immense anger seeps in...u do things... which u regret profusely... I dont support raman for trying to do haq jatana.. coz as a woman i was angry...n i understand the outburst of ppl... however, its ur as well as my belief.. ki raman wud have rectified it then n there.. he was all words..but he wudnt have done anything...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shalz_123


thanks a lot for liking...umm dont know ur name..

see i will just say...when immense anger seeps in...u do things... which u regret profusely... I dont support raman for trying to do haq jatana.. coz as a woman i was angry...n i understand the outburst of ppl... however, its ur as well as my belief.. ki raman wud have rectified it then n there.. he was all words..but he wudnt have done anything...

You can call me Sang,,
Please dont mis understand my POV, I am not saying Raman is correct. Being a woman , neither i can tolerate Physical nor sexual harassment of same or opp gender. Currenlty I am afraid here that ppl will say a woman supports physical torture by men.No I am against Raman. As you have said about anger, people will behave differently. Ishita was also angry but she expressed in words that is her way Raman expressed physically. One more time Raman is absolutely false in forcing himself on Ishita, Haq jathane se nahi mil jathe he,, He may be knows that..
What I wanted to say , as viewer of YHM from beginning, I have faith in RKB as he wont rape mother of his daughter but he tried to physically abuse Ishita bty force which is show of his mardangi and i am against that
Sorry hope my words make some sense😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sang3241

You can call me Sang,,
Please dont mis understand my POV, I am not saying Raman is correct. Being a woman , neither i can tolerate Physical nor sexual harassment of same or opp gender. Currenlty I am afraid here that ppl will say a woman supports physical torture by men.No I am against Raman. As you have said about anger, people will behave differently. Ishita was also angry but she expressed in words that is her way Raman expressed physically. One more time Raman is absolutely false in forcing himself on Ishita, Haq jathane se nahi mil jathe he,, He may be knows that..
What I wanted to say , as viewer of YHM from beginning, I have faith in RKB as he wont rape mother of his daughter but he tried to physically abuse Ishita bty force which is show of his mardangi and i am against that
Sorry hope my words make some sense😉


hey sang...nice name...

Arre u misunderstood... i agreed to ur point there in a way... I also agree that i have faith in RKB...

Only I understand their POV also who didnt like the scene.. the scene cud have been depicted in a diff way... waise jo galti hoti hain main cvs ki head pe dalti hu..so yeh bhi cv ki galti... 😛

N when i say abt anger...yes diff ppl react differently when angry... one shouts n one goes into reticence... it is all but coping mechanism of people...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks for deciding to post it after all. Your points make complete sense to me. Sometimes the viewer has to read between lines...not everything is explicitly shown or told in YHM when it comes to Raman-Ishita.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It's sad that we, the viewers are wanting a mature relationship with leads talking and sharing thoughts but instead of that cv's are hell bent on drama and drama.

They dragged the MU way too long and i'm not really mad at them for that but 1 there was too much drama and 2 the ending was not satisfactory.

In real life matters like non-trust, infidelity and drinking must be addressed, you can't just ignore them and hope they'll solve themselves.

I didn't mind that much the comedy, it's just that there are things that needs to be addressed and they can't just ignore it !

overall, i agree with what you said !


nice post shalini, thanks for sharing it with us !😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Both Raman and Ishtha are at fault.They are not true to there relationship.Nok Jok hotha hi in every relationship.Raman what he went thru Shagun,he is more insecure then ever and Ishitha praising Mani for everything no matter how strong a relationship?It happens ,he tried his best to show he his better then mani but when you praise some one and give a hug and say I love you.Any one can misunderstand.Another mistake of Raman giving all the credit to Shagun.This Ektha Kapoor serial,any thing can happen.
Karan and Divyanka are doing great job!


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