cv's...take a bow... - Page 10

Originally posted by: Arooj.M

This is an amazing post Kri, really well written!

I disagree!
just my pov!

Coming to ishita hw she was potrayed.. A very understanding person..understands everyone pov!

Let it be simmi.. She understood simmi loves param.. So she brought param back

Then shagun.. She sympathises with shagun.. She feels that it was a hard decision for shagun to leave raman.. Ishita feels shagun doesn't deserve someone like ashok..

Then sanjana.. She understood her pain...she believed whatever she said n got angry on raman..,even though it was just a trap!

She understood there is some tension between adi n ashok.. Without adi uttering a,word


During dna track She heard him saying ruhi not his daughter under same condition wen he ws not in his senses but then she joined the dots n she realised what ws bothering him! Such a understanding lady doesn't understands her own husband... apparently she is in love with him!!

Now same ishita thinks her husband blabbering something as he is drunk?!
Does it look realistic?!
It will only look realistic if we just forget whatever shown before!

Its not abt showing character certificate! One should not see a husband wife relationship from a feminist view ! It's abt caring n understanding partners feeling!


Now bracelet scene .. raman reaction was totally apt to that situation! Later he realised he reacted too much he was guilty...

Ishita had same reaction wen Subramanyam brought necklace which was ordered by raman she got angry ki raman didnt select it.. Then wen mihir told her she was guilty!

Then green dress.. Wen raman bought it her first question to ruhi was did anyone help u in selecting the dress!
She also has many insecurities!

Raman never stopped her from wearing western dress.. Actually he only brought such dresses! She never used to wear such dresses earlier!

Analyse mani ishita!

Raman never stopped her from meeting or talking to mani...even though he has insecurities he kept it to himself!
The reason she hid things to raman doesn't make sense!
Involving mani in husbands family matter that too without telling this to own husband again very unrealistic!

Storing his name as manisha..
Wen she is right why hiding business then?! This looked very immature behaviour!

Then calling mani for every family matter!
This whole track looks so unrealistic ...n maximum of ishita part!

Now coming to raman..
He always knew ishita insecurities regarding shagun n he never tried to enjoy her insecurities in the name of jealousy!

Whenever shagun tried to insult ishita raman was always their to support her!
Whenever she was hurt becoz of him he was guilty! He tried to make it up!

Anyday raman understands ishita more...he feels her pain..
He trusts her more! Wen she started lying n things he wittnesed anyone will doubt his wife.. If such things were witnessed by ishita even she would hv felt same!
Just Sonali kotnis name was enough to hurt her one day!

Then sanjana! Hw much she pissed off with raman that day!

N yesterday one speech was enough for ishita!

Raman just took shagun name she was shattered..although he insulted shagun but ishita felt still somewhere shagun effects him.. N mere that thought killed her..,

But what she has been doing with mani these many day!s n ignoring raman n hw much raman has suffered becoz of mani..

Wen she gets so much effected by shagun then she should realise hw much raman must be suffering becoz of mani...

Coming to giving attention raman has given much more than ishita
raman he wants to take a step forward he has given many hints

He learned hw to tie sari this shows that he considers her as his wife or else He could hv told mihikha to help ishita

Then wen bed broke he could hv slept anywhere on floor but he came slept near ishita

Then he told her yaadon ka kya hai phir ban jaayengi tumhari meri

Then he planned picnic he wanted to take only ishita not even ruhi!

Putting up a nameplate!

Then kkhh moment!
Keeping fast for kc
N many more

There not a single thing planned by only ishita just for raman..toh kisi ko pata kaise chale..

Ishita loves him but never understood him! she never showed that raman holds a special place in her life n she wants to move forward with him..

It was always ruhi ke liye or family ke liye for ishita.. Never sirf raman ke liye!

Originally posted by: krikumar.91

I dunno if Ishita called Mani but even if it is so, Ishita is not at fault... Her husband was not in a state to help her...

Thanks for liking the post yaar...

Originally posted by: Autumn.

I am not saying right or wrong. Just saying let the scene play out to know how actually Mani landed there.

Kri,

This is an amazing post. I was planning to make one on these lines, but you have said it all so well. I will share my take here.

CVs of YHM have proved once again that human relationships are complex, not only because of the complexities of the personalities involved, but also because the people participating in the relationship are not static beings, but are growing, sometimes even due to the relationship.

For a long time, Ishita was in denial about the Raman's thoughtless acts arising from the hurt of his first marriage. No matter how much Raman would insult her, Ishita would bounce back very quickly and act as though everything was normal, leaving the forum vaasis to wonder what was wrong with her. It was not that Ishita was being too mahan or forgiving; rather the denial was her coping mechanism through which she could continue staying in the marriage. Ishita has always been the kind of person for whom it is easier to get along with/confide in men rather than woman. We have seen this in the special bond she shares with her father, with Mr Bhalla, and with Bala.

We see Ishita, in the current track, more confident of herself, more willing to stand up for herself and her rights. We see her less willing to compromise, less willing to give in, a development that saw its culmination in yesterday's episode. Is this development is a result of her increasing comfort with Raman --finally Ishita is feeling safe enough in the relationship to feel unsafe? Or it is new boost in her confidence the result of Mani's reentry into her life? Perhaps it is a bit of both. Regardless, for a people-pleasing person like Ishita, although painful, this is a much needed growth spurt.

For Raman, too, the current track is an opportunity for self-growth and for emerging out of his painful past. It is interesting to see that he idolizes Ishita even as he is rehearsing his hatred for her. Raman cannot deny that Ishita is the cause of all the ways in which he has changed and become a better person. However, Raman has to see that Ishita cannot do everything --while she can support and inspire him to grow, she cannot accomplish it. This is something that Raman has to choose to do for himself.

It is said that one cannot love another fully until one has dealt with one's own issues. This is exactly what is happening in the lives of Ishita and Raman. They are going through the internal angst of dealing with their issues, and in the process have developed tunnel vision so that they only perceive things in accordance to their assumptions. They need to set aside the glasses of their past and clear their vision of cataracts of suspicion and frustration.

Kri I couldn't agree more, Ishita may have defined her relationship with Mani poorly and she might be guilty for not communicating with her husband but to be blamed for all this fiasco isn't fair. Raman is equally at fault for where they stand as a couple, he never shared his insecurities with her, he never communicated with her.

Originally posted by: aimf

Kri,

This is an amazing post. I was planning to make one on these lines, but you have said it all so well. I will share my take here.

CVs of YHM have proved once again that human relationships are complex, not only because of the complexities of the personalities involved, but also because the people participating in the relationship are not static beings, but are growing, sometimes even due to the relationship.

For a long time, Ishita was in denial about the Raman's thoughtless acts arising from the hurt of his first marriage. No matter how much Raman would insult her, Ishita would bounce back very quickly and act as though everything was normal, leaving the forum vaasis to wonder what was wrong with her. It was not that Ishita was being too mahan or forgiving; rather the denial was her coping mechanism through which she could continue staying in the marriage. Ishita has always been the kind of person for whom it is easier to get along with/confide in men rather than woman. We have seen this in the special bond she shares with her father, with Mr Bhalla, and with Bala.

We see Ishita, in the current track, more confident of herself, more willing to stand up for herself and her rights. We see her less willing to compromise, less willing to give in, a development that saw its culmination in yesterday's episode. Is this development is a result of her increasing comfort with Raman --finally Ishita is feeling safe enough in the relationship to feel unsafe? Or it is new boost in her confidence the result of Mani's reentry into her life? Perhaps it is a bit of both. Regardless, for a people-pleasing person like Ishita, although painful, this is a much needed growth spurt.

For Raman, too, the current track is an opportunity for self-growth and for emerging out of his painful past. It is interesting to see that he idolizes Ishita even as he is rehearsing his hatred for her. Raman cannot deny that Ishita is the cause of all the ways in which he has changed and become a better person. However, Raman has to see that Ishita cannot do everything --while she can support and inspire him to grow, she cannot accomplish it. This is something that Raman has to choose to do for himself.

It is said that one cannot love another fully until one has dealt with one's own issues. This is exactly what is happening in the lives of Ishita and Raman. They are going through the internal angst of dealing with their issues, and in the process have developed tunnel vision so that they only perceive things in accordance to their assumptions. They need to set aside the glasses of their past and clear their vision of cataracts of suspicion and frustration.

Originally posted by: Eyes-Wide-Shut

Kri I couldn't agree more, Ishita may have defined her relationship with Mani poorly and she might be guilty for not communicating with her husband but to be blamed for all this fiasco isn't fair. Raman is equally at fault for where they stand as a couple, he never shared his insecurities with her, he never communicated with her.

Ishita should stand her ground and defend herself to save her dignity.

Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan

Hi Kri

Bear with me, I am not answering to each point in your post, but I hope to cover everything. Your post made me come our of my comedy mode 😳

- No person (Man or Woman) should have to prove their fidelity to anyone (ESPECIALLY their spouse). If there is a reason for anyone to justify that they are faithful, then their fidelity is not a problem. Something else is wrong with the relationship

- At the same time, no person (man or woman) should resort to being hurtful to their spouse if they doubt their character. By all means, say anything if its proven that your spouse is cheating on you, but NEVER if the doubt is unconfirmed. Taking physical action (no matter how intense the scene is, or how hot the man is) is something no partner will tolerate in a world where Ishita and Raman live.

@bold...First line mein dhoka diya na...😆 Itne serious topic mein yeh kehna zaroori tha kya? Jokes apart, Raman committed a mistake... It was just a mistake... He is not guilty of anything. He lost his control because of his love for this woman but allowed Ishita to overpower him... I believe that he allowed her because RKB is stronger enough to subjugate his wife...

- Having said that, for 2 people (yes I mean BOTH Raman and Ishita) who seem to be knowledgeable enough to understand everyone's emotions and well-being; not focussing on their own relationship bothers me the most. They both break down when their relationship is remotely challenged by a third party, but what do they do other than break down?

- For the last few weeks, another thing has been bothering me. And I mention this because of the layers you talked about. Both of them are flawed, broken and carry heavy emotional baggage. With every track we see something new coming out and help define the relationship one step at a time. I am waiting to see what this track will conclude. But the objective and the conclusion of the previous tracks are selective forgotten. If they are peeling layers of a character one step at a time, then why are they NOT showing the PHASES in which their relationship is growing??? Did they NOT learn anything about themselves (and their spouses) in the custody track, the DNA track, the accident track and even the Param track?

- Coming to Raman and Ishita as individuals...

DOES Raman not know by now that Ishita would never do anything to jeopardise her relationship with Ruhi (even if he believes that Ishita doesnt love him, or loves Mani)? She may leave him, BUT would she EVER leave Ruhi ??? This was my biggest problem with the accident track too. DId he not know that Ishita (who was ready to take the case back for Param, so the family wouldnt suffer) would HELP him in protecting Adi? You do not have to be in LOVE with someone to know them at least this much.

I don't think that Raman had that fear till he misbehaved with her today. Somewhere, he knew that Ishita won't leave him. He was feeling low on thinking that he is uncapable of being loved by Ishita.

DOES Ishita not see that there SOMETHING bothering Raman? She can be best friends with Mani, she can call him any time of the day, she has good intentions and her relationship with Mani is pure. Again, no one should have to stop being friends with anyone because it bothers their spouse. I am even OK with the fact that she does not know WHAT is bothering him. But does she not get that SOMETHING is bothering him???

Kaise yaar? Raman has always given her mixed signals... With so much happening around them, she failed to find the actual reason. Regarding infidelity, i'm repeating it for the umpteenth time in the same thread. Ruby, who said this first is going to kill me but i will take that risk again... I can't suspect myself to be an infidel spouse na... Also, she had her hands full with this Romi- Sarika issue too... She couldn;t figure it out...

Long story short, I am mad at both of them for not prioritising their relationship. For 2 people who have proclaimed romantic feelings, they seem to be taking a lot of it for granted. I have personal experience with couples taking each other for granted, but they don't usually do it unless they have spent years together, and have firmly discussed and lived through different 'tracks' in their own life. Discussed being the important word for me. Our leads seem to forget some discussions they have had.

Now... about people not liking this track and the so-called bashing. I will talk for myself. Yes, I dont like HOW the track is being executed. I personally believe everyone has their own sensibilities and their tolerance levels. For me, the drama (and extreme reactions and situations) are diluting the essence of what I liked in the show. For someone else, it may not. We all have different sensibilities, and I am comfortable in my space. That is why I have not specifically mentioned scenes and episodes which I have disliked and have refrained from saying which lead is right or wrong. My problem is with inconsistency and honestly, for me, it started long before Mani entered the picture. But I so believe that criticising the show DOES show some level of emotional attachment to it. If I didn't care, I wouldn't be here.

Criticism is not the issue... Healthy discussions are always needed but one mustn't bash each and every scene... At times, we must learn to appreciate...