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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Hima-

No marriage is without conditions! Even in real life, you will only like/love your partner if he/she behaves according to your liking.. married girls will understand this point! There is nothing like a fairy-tale marriage.. hence the word 'fairy-tale'. Now, the conditions and expectations may be different BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS SOME CONDITIONS nevertheless. For example, in real life, would you accept a partner selflessly even if his ex-wife keeps breathing down your throat every other day?! Is that even possible? And in real life, would you accept a partner with whole heart even when her friend interferes in your personal relationships? Would you not confront the other in these scenarios and try to sort out the issue with your partner? If you want complete attention from your partner for yourself, that is also a condition because if he/she does not comply, you WILL NOT like it.

There is always two sides to a story.. taking one side and trying to show the world that your side is right is not the right way to deal with any problem.

The way Raman and Ishita's relation is being shaped is beautiful because that is the way married couples are! Every time a fight ensues and one stops talking to the other, does not mean that that person has not done anything for the relationship and needs to be punished by the other. Why do you think Raman is not angry with Ishita even if she is with him? And why do you think Ishita NEVER took offense to Raman's taunts and outbursts on her? It is because SHE has shown her LOVE towards him through her actions several times that HE IS NOW CALM even if she is angry.

Marriage is always a give and take.. there is nothing called 'no expectations' from a marriage. ANd yes, Raman had a LOT OF expectations from Ishita and Ishita has been meeting them.. hence he likes her! He has shown his displeasure several times when she did not meet his expectations. Now she is angry with him because he did not meet her expectation THIS TIME by NOT TRUSTING her.. it is a temporary anger which will be taken care of by his loving actions towards her!


I sincerely request you Hima to post a separate topic in this. Too much misinterpretation of real and reel life are is really making this forum a sick one.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42
" Can we call it LOVE? Does love come with a "shaart" (clause)? She surely would've some expectations from him but behaving so extremely is not love, at least to me. If you want to change your lover, want to behave only the way you like then you're not in love in the first place. Raman in his all life searched for the elusive love but he didn't get it from any of them. At the end of the day, Raman is all alone and he'll always will be... "
I loved this part , you got it right ...If Ishita wants Raman to changed then what's the use of saying that "Aaj aap mere Raman ho" and love is never about changing someone whom you loved , if love is done by putting clause then its called compromise ! Ishita is really getting out of character , Both of them are to be blamed for their failed relationship not only Raman infact atleast Raman is trying to reform himself ..Ishita is really confusing at times she is confident about her feeling and at times she doesn't have any idea about anything else apart from helping others !
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: -Hima-

No marriage is without conditions! Even in real life, you will only like/love your partner if he/she behaves according to your liking.. married girls will understand this point! There is nothing like a fairy-tale marriage.. hence the word 'fairy-tale'. Now, the conditions and expectations may be different BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS SOME CONDITIONS nevertheless. For example, in real life, would you accept a partner selflessly even if his ex-wife keeps breathing down your throat every other day?! Is that even possible? And in real life, would you accept a partner with whole heart even when her friend interferes in your personal relationships? Would you not confront the other in these scenarios and try to sort out the issue with your partner? If you want complete attention from your partner for yourself, that is also a condition because if he/she does not comply, you WILL NOT like it.

There is always two sides to a story.. taking one side and trying to show the world that your side is right is not the right way to deal with any problem.

The way Raman and Ishita's relation is being shaped is beautiful because that is the way married couples are! Every time a fight ensues and one stops talking to the other, does not mean that that person has not done anything for the relationship and needs to be punished by the other. Why do you think Raman is not angry with Ishita even if she is with him? And why do you think Ishita NEVER took offense to Raman's taunts and outbursts on her? It is because SHE has shown her LOVE towards him through her actions several times that HE IS NOW CALM even if she is angry.

Marriage is always a give and take.. there is nothing called 'no expectations' from a marriage. ANd yes, Raman had a LOT OF expectations from Ishita and Ishita has been meeting them.. hence he likes her! He has shown his displeasure several times when she did not meet his expectations. Now she is angry with him because he did not meet her expectation THIS TIME by NOT TRUSTING her.. it is a temporary anger which will be taken care of by his loving actions towards her!



Take a bow..You have said it all..👏
Please post this as a topic in the forum.. It's really needed..😳
Its always give and take.. One can't be selfless and expect nothing out of a marriage.! It wont even count as one..Its a mere compromise if you expect nothing out of it.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: DivAniTanni

Though a nice post, but disagree to many points, though valid considering from one perspective.

Ishita married Raman for Ruhi agree. She bridged the gap between Ruhi and Raman not only for Ruhi, indirectly she did that for the whole Bhalla family too. The whole family wanted their good relation, so she tried hard to fix that.
That was my point. She did for Ruhi and all. Not for Raman only. Without some trivial cases she'd hardly done anything only for Raman. Ishita's got caring attitude for everyone. The way she cares for everyone, same way she cares for Raman too. There's no special treatment for Raman only.

You indirectly said Raman accepted her the way she is. He never expected anything good from her. Sorry mam. You missed some points here. Raman started accepting her only when he realized that Ishita takes full care of him, Ruhi and his whole family. Then he says..she takes care of everything, she is a good girl. Doesn't it sound like a condition to be a good wife for him, doesn't it sound like he had a big expectation from her?
Well, I said earlier in my post they both had misconceptions about each other initially. Raman regarded her gold-digger and Ishita termed him as a heartless, self-centered man. When their assumptions were proven wrong, they both ACCEPTED themselves as FRIENDS.


Till then, Ishita never expected him to be sensitive, trusting, loveable to her. She would never realized it if Mani dint come again. I thank Mani for that. Cos, marriage is not only a compromise for a woman, but also a man. When both compromises, then it becomes successful and love can get it way. Ishita compromised will all of his family's bullshits including him for the sake of his family. Only this led Raman to like her and love her. Same way, Ishita now expects Raman to give her respect and trust and love. I have seen wives around me. They at first hand expect respect and love from husbands, then come money.
Mani is her childhood friend, she knew about him and his nature before. So she should know the difference between Mani and Raman much earlier, na? If she realized seeing Mani now then it's WORST. WHY? When you want to change your partner accordingly seeing a SUPPOSEDLY better version, then it's not LOVE. For example, You're befriended with some very good looking guy or a guy with much polished in behavior and suddenly you realized your husband was nothing like that. Then you go on complaining all the time why he is not like them and he should change himself for you. Love/marriage is not buying the best product from the market or if you didn't buy the best product, go change it or reform the existing one. Love doesn't work like that.

If Raman did many things for Ishita and his family, if Ishita did only one thing na..still that equals. Cos, she returned the life of the Bhalla family...Ruhi. Sooner or later, Shagun would've snatched her if Ishita even dint interfere. But, Ishita secured that.
Agreed. Both have done so much for their family as I said earlier. My topic was about what they did for each other and their marriage.

Ishita has lots of flaws. One is she thinks of others before her marriage and Raman. These flaws can't make anyone forget her good deeds.
Main fact is you can't say her love is conditional just thinking from Raman's perspective. I am obliged to point out from Ishita perspective mainly when I see Raman's misdeeds are justified with lots of silly reasons even and Ishita is showed as a selfish and self involved character.
And, in a marriage both the men and women have expectations. You just have to think from both view.
Both Raman and Ishita are royally flawed, no doubt about that. But topic is not about their flaws. It's about how they see their marriage and love for each other and how they act on it.

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Posted: 10 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: -Hima-

No marriage is without conditions! Even in real life, you will only like/love your partner if he/she behaves according to your liking.. married girls will understand this point! There is nothing like a fairy-tale marriage.. hence the word 'fairy-tale'. Now, the conditions and expectations may be different BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS SOME CONDITIONS nevertheless. For example, in real life, would you accept a partner selflessly even if his ex-wife keeps breathing down your throat every other day?! Is that even possible? And in real life, would you accept a partner with whole heart even when her friend interferes in your personal relationships? Would you not confront the other in these scenarios and try to sort out the issue with your partner? If you want complete attention from your partner for yourself, that is also a condition because if he/she does not comply, you WILL NOT like it.

There is always two sides to a story.. taking one side and trying to show the world that your side is right is not the right way to deal with any problem.

The way Raman and Ishita's relation is being shaped is beautiful because that is the way married couples are! Every time a fight ensues and one stops talking to the other, does not mean that that person has not done anything for the relationship and needs to be punished by the other. Why do you think Raman is not angry with Ishita even if she is with him? And why do you think Ishita NEVER took offense to Raman's taunts and outbursts on her? It is because SHE has shown her LOVE towards him through her actions several times that HE IS NOW CALM even if she is angry.

Marriage is always a give and take.. there is nothing called 'no expectations' from a marriage. ANd yes, Raman had a LOT OF expectations from Ishita and Ishita has been meeting them.. hence he likes her! He has shown his displeasure several times when she did not meet his expectations. Now she is angry with him because he did not meet her expectation THIS TIME by NOT TRUSTING her.. it is a temporary anger which will be taken care of by his loving actions towards her!


Yeah, absolutely marriage is all about give and take. There are bound to be lots of expectations from either side. But if the expectations are not met for some reasons, will you want to change your partner 's behavior forcefully? If he/she can't change, will you complain and whine all the time labeling him as rude, insensitive, careless etc. Just a few days ago he/she was the best for you, now seeing a SUPPOSEDLY ( because you just spend a fraction of time with him/her unlike your spouse) better version your spouse is suddenly not good enough! IT'S NOT about EXPECTATIONS in my post, rather it's about CHANGING your spouse according to your OWN LIKING. In other words, all set for to have it in your own way ONLY.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46
Wow...you brought some valid points. Your topic will act as a reminder for those who're claiming Raman's done nothing for Ishita and their marriage.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#47
Agree...end of the day he is nowhere 😒


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: DiyaRathore


Yeah, absolutely marriage is all about give and take. There are bound to be lots of expectations from either side. But if the expectations are not met for some reasons, will you want to change your partner 's behavior forcefully? If he/she can't change, will you complain and whine all the time labeling him as rude, insensitive, careless etc. Just a few days ago he/she was the best for you, now seeing a SUPPOSEDLY ( because you just spend a fraction of time with him/her unlike your spouse) better version your spouse is suddenly not good enough! IT'S NOT about EXPECTATIONS in my post, rather it's about CHANGING your spouse according to your OWN LIKING. In other words, all set for to have it in your own way ONLY.


@black - Ok.. did I miss something? When did Ishita try to change Raman? She has said to him that he should NOT CHANGE.. she likes RAVAN kumar! So, when did this forceful changing happen?

Now, I want to stay away from Mani because he is a very premature character who was suddenly introduced and he said some stuff to Raman that he was not a good husband and Raman misunderstood that his words were actually Ishita's.. that is a misunderstanding. I never saw anything which said Ishita wanted Raman to change to her liking!

She expected him to be civil with her and trust her but that is only natural.. any wife would want that.. that has nothing to do with Ishita trying to forcefully change Raman.

I don't want to sound like I am taking Ishita's side here because I have issues with her but what you have pointed out is not something I cannot connect with. I find faults in both and thats what makes them realistic.. no one is perfect and these two characters only prove that. But they are perfect for each other because when it comes to things that really matter, their understanding is far more mature than under normal circumstances. They have always stood for each other and one is NOT superior.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#49
You have some valid points here. Legit points.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: -Anku-

Both have done things for each other, at the same time both aren't flawless. They both have been right and both have been wrong at times. And that is what most NORMAL humans do, they make mistakes...then they correct it too. So when Raman is blamed, or Ishita is blamed or their relation is mocked I find it funny. Marriage isn't a joke, not the one that started off the way theirs did. It takes years and years for arranged marriages to work.. but you have to make them work and not give up. It's been a few months to IshRa's and they've done a good job of working on it IMHO.





The knee reason I am not in support of this supposedly to be confession. Both of them have tragic pasts and you simply cannot expect them to forget that within 9 months of marriage. Almost all relationships are messy, the magic in their relationship is the realistic feel to it, you can connect to, you can connect to the show. Having a confession so early without sorting their last is a death call.

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