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Posted: 10 years ago

#861

Originally posted by: redwine1

I have a simple quest here ...
are Raman or iShita the negatives in this story ... so how can they be WRONG .. they are the leads .. they have to always be RIGHT ..

why do we need to show one wrong for the other to be right ... ???

No one is at fault its circumstantial ..
The story is only written in a comparo format for Ishita & Shagun... the good & the bad ..

Ruby I agree to u... They r the leads... How can they b wrong or ryt... But c both ishita n Raman r perfectly imperfect... They both r flawed... Its a show but it doesn't mean they need to b dudh k dhule...

Yes circumstantial fault... I agree here more or less...

But wat do circumstances do?? They either bring out the good or d bad.. The strength or the weakness...

That's it... Here Raman's weakness is highlighted...

Again ishita's lie is also circumstantial.had d circumstances been normal she wouldn't have lied... Here her weakness is highlighted...

The situation has become grave because ishita is unaware of wat RAMAN is going thru...

Raman's weakness I call it as a fault because he is still clinging to the demons of past... He has not yet come out...

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Posted: 10 years ago

#862

Originally posted by: Ohgod!

agree completely.. in fcat this is what i told someone a while ago here

i think he's trying to hurt her for hurting him! also she needs to know she unintentionally hurt him and opened the wounds of his past na.. :)

And like Aani pointed out in a previous post... he has ALWAYS been comparing Ishita to Shagun - in good and bad - always drawn parallels and compared.. And it is that only that he needs to stop and realise.. And that can only happen if Ishita is hurt by comparison/equating to Shagun and she confronts him and he replies and they TALK!!!! start with fight yes but TALK!!!

waise we dont know what else he says too.. this is just a promo.. so best not to draw conclusions..

but im actually glad they are not gonna have confrontation while he is drunk... :)

Now if he does indeed stop with only giving credit to shagun.. she'll be hurt too! and she'll know he's hurt too.. and then the confrontation and then the healing.. hayyeee

i dont agree with this .. but thats my personal View point .. baring the VV episode he has never used their name together .. that time it was justified .. he was questioning himself why is she so dedicated .. when a woman who professed to love me wasn't ... what do i mean to her ... so it was not comparison then .. it was trying to understand her devotion .. a love marriage v/s a contractual marriage ...

i dont think he compares ... circumstances have led to comparisons ...

if he compared .. he would have been this jealous with the entry of mani ..

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Posted: 10 years ago

#863

Originally posted by: redwine1

I have a simple quest here ...
are Raman or iShita the negatives in this story ... so how can they be WRONG .. they are the leads .. they have to always be RIGHT ..

why do we need to show one wrong for the other to be right ... ???

No one is at fault its circumstantial ..
The story is only written in a comparo format for Ishita & Shagun... the good & the bad ..

Ofcourse theyre the leads, they cant be wrong, by the end of it, dono sahi hi honge... And abhi bhi hain... But theres no denying that just to sensationalize a particular thing and for extensive dramas sake... Theyre doing this where in youve got no choice but to blame one.

They ARE showing it ruby, how can one deny? How can one say that ishita is right in all this when they clearly WANT to show she isnt. Her intentions are pure, yes. But in this process... She IS making mistakes... Obviously by the end of it itll be like it wasnt her fault and all, but to me here, right now, its more of ishita at fault than raman... Even if it is for the good/betterment if her husband 😳

I dont want raman or ishitan begging for forgiveness ar the end when they realize.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#864

Originally posted by: redwine1

i dont agree with this .. but thats my personal View point .. baring the VV episode he has never used their name together .. that time it was justified .. he was questioning himself why is she so dedicated .. when a woman who professed to love me wasn't ... what do i mean to her ... so it was not comparison then .. it was trying to understand her devotion .. a love marriage v/s a contractual marriage ...

i dont think he compares ... circumstances have led to comparisons ...

if he compared .. he would have been this jealous with the entry of mani ..

oops.. actually i agree!! in fact i think that was my argument as well in one of ur posts!!!

Comparison or not... Whatever he says in the promo is just simply wanting to hurt her for she hurt him.. itna bhi kaafi hi hai.. both of them will be hurt and both of them will heal.. 😳

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redwine1

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Posted: 10 years ago

#865

Yes circumstantial fault... I agree here more or less...

But wat do circumstances do?? They either bring out the good or d bad.. The strength or the weakness...

That's it... Here Raman's weakness is highlighted...

Again ishita's lie is also circumstantial.had d circumstances been normal she wouldn't have lied... Here her weakness is highlighted...

The situation has become grave because ishita is unaware of wat RAMAN is going thru...

Raman's weakness I call it as a fault because he is still clinging to the demons of past... He has not yet come out...

I dont think Ishita has been written as a flawed character .. if she is flawed .. the story ends .. coz the story is a comparison between a FLAWED WOMAN .. SHAGUN & ISHITA the perfect woman ..

Lying for a good cause is Wrong .. well in our own culture .. own God lord Krishna lied .. whoa so does that make him bad .. nope he is God ..

In yesterdays post i asked a simple ques .. is this a moral science story .. or is this a fiction tale .. why expect rightness always ..

these are human characters who hurt when hurt .. but in his hurt .. he still managed to say something big .. his view of life was changed when Shagun ditched him .. he credits her with the bad luck .. she went away & he rose .. these are the exact words he spoke during the CEO of the year celebrations 😳

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Trailblazer

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Posted: 10 years ago

#866

Originally posted by: redwine1

Ok tell me beyond Ishita levity about lying to Raman .. what is wrong with this track ??/

NOTHING as yet 😃

As ive said earlier ruby, im a dire supporter of ths track. Had wanted it and have been loving it...

I say there is no problem or wrong in this track as yet because the new promo episode, asia business head party hasnt been shown in the epi as yet, so i cant give a verdict on the basis of what ive seen in the mere promo or onlocation. Cant judge, dont know how itll be played out and asal mein ho kya raha hai and in what context is he saying what hes saying

Based on the assumptions if what im dreading happens... And they drag this,,, then im going to point out the 'wrongs' of this track... So i still stand... Abhi tak... Nothing exactly other than what youve mentioned is wrong, and even that is technically not THAT wring considering her intentions... But yes, its stupid :)

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Posted: 10 years ago

#867

Originally posted by: redwine1

Yes circumstantial fault... I agree here more or less...

But wat do circumstances do?? They either bring out the good or d bad.. The strength or the weakness...

That's it... Here Raman's weakness is highlighted...

Again ishita's lie is also circumstantial.had d circumstances been normal she wouldn't have lied... Here her weakness is highlighted...

The situation has become grave because ishita is unaware of wat RAMAN is going thru...

Raman's weakness I call it as a fault because he is still clinging to the demons of past... He has not yet come out...

I dont think Ishita has been written as a flawed character .. if she is flawed .. the story ends .. coz the story is a comparison between a FLAWED WOMAN .. SHAGUN & ISHITA the perfect woman ..

Lying for a good cause is Wrong .. well in our own culture .. own God lord Krishna lied .. whoa so does that make him bad .. nope he is God ..

In yesterdays post i asked a simple ques .. is this a moral science story .. or is this a fiction tale .. why expect rightness always ..

@BOLD - WORD...

Edited by banana.ishra - 10 years ago

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daydreamers

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Posted: 10 years ago

#868

Originally posted by: Ohgod!

oops.. actually i agree!! in fact i think that was my argument as well in one of ur posts!!!

Comparison or not... Whatever he says in the promo is just simply wanting to hurt her for she hurt him.. itna bhi kaafi hi hai.. both of them will be hurt and both of them will heal.. 😳

I agree wid u both...

My only talk here is ruby bhuvana

Raman is looking at everything wid lenses of past.. Hadn't mihir put ne sense in him yday he wudnt have gathered himself to talk it out...

But unfortunately he has to witness the past replay... Ishu hugged Mani... He witnessed he shattered he broke then what does he do?? He simply drank n sat in middle of road...

Not as his wife but as ruhi's mom he shud have cornered her confronted her...

He still hasn't risen above that hurt... N rising above the hurt is not CIRCUMSTANTIAL it is eventually in ur hands... U want to progress or degrade at the hands of ur past...

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redwine1

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Posted: 10 years ago

#869

I dont want raman or ishitan begging for forgiveness ar the end when they realize.

Ok simply for sake of discussion ...

ishita lied to raman .. was she justified yep . does she have a clue that raman thinks she is having an affair with Mani .. nope .. this was resolved on the pretend kidnap day .. he was coming to apologise to her because he questioned her character ..

Now is raman wrong in thinking Ishita is lying or secretly being in love with mani .. nope .. he has evidence which leads him to believe this ..

Now my quest here is .. yesterday when he saw the 2 talking i love u .. talking marriage .. why did he not simply step in & blast the shit out of them .. wouldn't that be how any normal man with jealous tendencies react ..

But then .. these 2 their characters have been written in a certain format .. i have gone tired saying . understand the characters ..

Raman in insecure .. if he stepped in asked her .. what if she said yes i dont want to be with u .. his life ends .. so he preferred to run & hide his head in the sand ... rather than confront . did he do this in the past YEP .. he ran away from RUHI .. DNA .. all that rather than face the problem

Now Ishita .. this woman was rejected cause as a woman she could not give the man the most important thing .. FAMILY . .she considers herself HALF A WOMAN .. what will she do .. she will OVER COMPENSATE ..

she will give more love .. she will move heaven & earth to deliver A FAMILY for her MAN ..

Now do u get the links ..

There is no right or wrong .. their past dictates what they do

She will have to tell raman U R FIRST FOR ME ... u r the only man for me

He will have to say to her .. U R IT FOR ME .. i dont want anything else ...

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Posted: 10 years ago

#870

Originally posted by: redwine1
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has this played out in the past as well .. Raman giving credit to Shagun .. YEP .. CEO of the year ... he credits it to shagun ... entrepreneur party .. in the interview he says .. my past made me stand tall ..

now when would it be a problem .. if he said .. with sarcasm on his new wife

Hey Ruby...first of all let me tell u that ur posts r the best of all n I love reading them😛.. Especially if I read a bad lu before watching the Epi I go back to read only ur posts as it's like a breath of positivity. I'm also not biased towards Ishita or Raman coz I love the unique relation of Ishra.

Coming to the promo my only n only problem is why stretch this matter sooo much..what was the point of the high drama where Raman gets drunk n is sooo disturbed if he could not talk or scream his heart out?? Also I expected a nicer twist where romi n sarika were concerned coz if this is true then Romis char is also back to square one..I knw they yet have not shown the story n there may be more to it. Also I'm Okk with mani but a friend however dear does not have to be stuck to u 24/7 Thts what irks me.