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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -MariaMars-

U guys are still discussing ?😲 My head is spinning after reading all of this.. 😆😆 I will take one episode at a time.. 🤔

But definitely want to point out some things

-> As Autum said, Raman was more hurt to see his wife being FOOLED by his Ex.. He was very much hurt than angry..

-> Ruby, if u are still awake, correct me if i'm wrong.. whatever u are telling leads to confession and consummation.. Raman has shown all signals of not caring for shagun. If he openly needs to tell that , it would eventually lead to their confession.. Is that u are pointing to?

-> I've seen most of ekta's shows where confession and consummation are tagged along... Personally, i don't want that in YHM.. I need to see realization of how much they have changed after marriage and what they feel abt each other. I want to see more sexual tensions. I don't want screaming and screeching confession .. Want a heart felt conversation where they confess their feelings. They need not sleep immediately after confessing.. They can show some hesitation from Ishita in taking the next step forward and more sexual tensions and then consummating their marriage.

Most important out of all this.. If this time slot is temporary, I DO NOT WANT C n C at this slot. As simple as that... Fans are not in a hurry to see C n C as long as we get good solid IshRa scenes (not only romance, heart to heart conversations, nok joks, sexual tensions, rootna manana, fark padtha hai kinda scenes)

Hope i made some sense..


Maria Hiya

The discussions veered from story & track to moral grounds so kept quiet

No clue about consummation yaar ... but yes they will have a talk & they will take this marriage forward as a marriage .. not just as Ruhis parents
There shud b a confession .. but this one will b different 😉

How where when it will happen have no idea as off now ...One can't predict screen play ... at least not at this juncture .. cliched scenes yes ..

But theres lofs to happen before that ..
Raman has shown that he loves Ishita ( at least thats what forum people believe) .. does Ishita believe that ?

Look at how they have come to this point .. theres lots of confusion & baggage just a few days back this woman believed her husband was not capable of ROMANCE ..
how much does she know her husband

Now heres something to chew on .. its not just about Raman articulating about his past .. its ISHITA asking him about his past as well .. Like the way Raman asked her about hers .. like how he asked her r u happy ...she needs to get to that place as well ...

The past is not just Raman's past baggage .. its their shared past baggage as well .. which will need to be cleared ..

Yes raman keeps saying BIWI ho tum Meri ..but that he said on the first day of their marriage as well .. when he tells Ashok .. speak carefully u r speaking to Mrs. Raman Kumar Bhalla ..MY WIFE ..
so thats not a signal at all ...

The progress is .. THAT THEY HAVE COME TO THIS CROSS ROADS in their relation ... this man was found drunk in his ex wife's bedroom ... but that time this woman did not feel an iota of jealousy .. she actually tells her husband go be with any woman u want ..
today some arbid woman says i had a scene with ur husband .. clearly his past ..but she gets jealous & throws a tantrum ..
Thats the progress

He gets affected by her tantrums .. wants to speak with her .. thats progress .. but this can't go further till they resolve all the baggage they carry of the past ..

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Colt.Pixy

Forget about confession yar., first of all Ishita needs to respect him as a husband being clear character who she can trust completely for his honesty to their marriage relations . I just want after shagunt track is over her to realize what raman is man kind of.



I so agree with you Zen. And that's my main contention with Ishita. She's always quick to jump to conclusions about Raman and been ready to believe the worst. Following is the list of assumptions that she was oh so ready to make:
1. Raman is a child abuser...she believes Shagun but does not give Raman a chance to say anything in his defence
2. Raman is obsessed with Shagun, during DNA and then accident track...again she assumes that and again does not hear Raman's side
3. And now she believes a woman she's hardly known for a few days...again without giving Raman a chance to explain himself.

Trust is mutual and both partners have to show some commitment in really believing each other. Ishita seriously lacks that commitment.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sophee



I so agree with you Zen. And that's my main contention with Ishita. She's always quick to jump to conclusions about Raman and been ready to believe the worst. Following is the list of assumptions that she was oh so ready to make:
1. Raman is a child abuser...she believes Shagun but does not give Raman a chance to say anything in his defence
2. Raman is obsessed with Shagun, during DNA and then accident track...again she assumes that and again does not hear Raman's side
3. And now she believes a woman she's hardly known for a few days...again without giving Raman a chance to explain himself.

Trust is mutual and both partners have to show some commitment in really believing each other. Ishita seriously lacks that commitment.



AAH SOPHEE U nailed it love


Ishita has been like this from the first day ...

. COMMITMENT IS MUTUAL .. i love that u used the word COMMITMENT .. this is what they r leading up to .. is she COMMITTED to being MRS. RAMAN KUMAR BHALLA .. or just ISHITA RAMAN BHALLA .. who is RUHI BHALLA's mom
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: redwine1


Maria Hiya

The discussions veered from story & track to moral grounds so kept quiet

No clue about consummation yaar ... but yes they will have a talk & they will take this marriage forward as a marriage .. not just as Ruhis parents
There shud b a confession .. but this one will b different 😉

How where when it will happen have no idea as off now ...One can't predict screen play ... at least not at this juncture .. cliched scenes yes ..

But theres lofs to happen before that ..
Raman has shown that he loves Ishita ( at least thats what forum people believe) .. does Ishita believe that ?

Look at how they have come to this point .. theres lots of confusion & baggage just a few days back this woman believed her husband was not capable of ROMANCE ..
how much does she know her husband

Now heres something to chew on .. its not just about Raman articulating about his past .. its ISHITA asking him about his past as well .. Like the way Raman asked her about hers .. like how he asked her r u happy ...she needs to get to that place as well ...

The past is not just Raman's past baggage .. its their shared past baggage as well .. which will need to be cleared ..

Yes raman keeps saying BIWI ho tum Meri ..but that he said on the first day of their marriage as well .. when he tells Ashok .. speak carefully u r speaking to Mrs. Raman Kumar Bhalla ..MY WIFE ..
so thats not a signal at all ...

The progress is .. THAT THEY HAVE COME TO THIS CROSS ROADS in their relation ... this man was found drunk in his ex wife's bedroom ... but that time this woman did not feel an iota of jealousy .. she actually tells her husband go be with any woman u want ..
today some arbid woman says i had a scene with ur husband .. clearly his past ..but she gets jealous & throws a tantrum ..
Thats the progress

He gets affected by her tantrums .. wants to speak with her .. thats progress .. but this can't go further till they resolve all the baggage they carry of the past ..



Hey Ruby.. Thanks for the reply.. Firstly i'm relieved after your reply.. I was just tensed more about a hurried C n C which i'm totally against.. I was overthinking actually...

You have explained beautifully.. 😳 I wish i could write like you..

I really hope that they show a different confession.. Yes i agree they need to talk .. A heart to heart conversation.. Ask what all u want answers for, both of them should open up... but before confessing, i need to them to do a self talk as well.. Think what's happening to them.. is it physical attraction or is it love? They need to think abt the transformation frm hate to love.. they need to realize its love and then confess... That's the reason i don't want a hurried confession now.

I agree on the part that Raman has never had a serious talk with Ishita till now except the scene where he asks her to be his strength after ishita finds Adi is the culprit.. Every other conversation of theirs had ended with a nok jok or a taunt.. Even if he was serious he wud laugh it away... Also fake i love you..So yes, a serious talk is definitely needed for for ishita to believe him..

I agree with the progress they've made.. Raman who taunts her lecture is unable to bear the fact that she is giving him silent treatment.. That's y i think both need to sit and think what's happening to them..

Anyways, my only worry is they should show the progress gradually and not hurry with it ... Thanks for the explanation Ruby 🤗 WIll go sleep with a smile now 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sophee



I so agree with you Zen. And that's my main contention with Ishita. She's always quick to jump to conclusions about Raman and been ready to believe the worst. Following is the list of assumptions that she was oh so ready to make:
1. Raman is a child abuser...she believes Shagun but does not give Raman a chance to say anything in his defence
2. Raman is obsessed with Shagun, during DNA and then accident track...again she assumes that and again does not hear Raman's side
3. And now she believes a woman she's hardly known for a few days...again without giving Raman a chance to explain himself.

Trust is mutual and both partners have to show some commitment in really believing each other. Ishita seriously lacks that commitment.



Bang On Sophee...👏 That's my prob with Ishita too.. She wants him to tell her everything but doesn't actually give him a chance to explain...She jumps to conclusion about him way too quickly... She definitely lacks commitment
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -MariaMars-



Bang On Sophee...👏 That's my prob with Ishita too.. She wants him to tell her everything but doesn't actually give him a chance to explain...She jumps to conclusion about him way too quickly... She definitely lacks commitment


Thanks Maria 😊
Ishita finds it easier to accept the negative things about Raman than anything positive about him. And that is where I feel the CVs cheat us! Ek taraf they give dialogues to her where she understands what he doesn't even voice...his sending her to the spa, his concern for her with Pervy around, his commitment to Adi. And at the same time she's ready to believe that the same guy not only had an affair but had no qualms in breaking up a family because HIS relationship did not work out. And this is the same guy for whom he went to great lengths to ensure that he got the woman he loves! Raman loves unconditionally and passionately so didn't she even think once how could he be so selfish as to be the reason for splitting up two siblings??? When he came home drunk after the picnic, she tells him that she's changed after her marriage but where trusting and believing Raman is concerned, nothing much has changed unfortunately.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sophee



I so agree with you Zen. And that's my main contention with Ishita. She's always quick to jump to conclusions about Raman and been ready to believe the worst. Following is the list of assumptions that she was oh so ready to make:
1. Raman is a child abuser...she believes Shagun but does not give Raman a chance to say anything in his defence
2. Raman is obsessed with Shagun, during DNA and then accident track...again she assumes that and again does not hear Raman's side
3. And now she believes a woman she's hardly known for a few days...again without giving Raman a chance to explain himself.

Trust is mutual and both partners have to show some commitment in really believing each other. Ishita seriously lacks that commitment.



I am sorry to disagree, but the same thing can be said about Raman..
He has always been aggressive and impulsive in his words and behavior with her.
Things may have changed now but there are several instances where she has faced the brunt of his anger..
Firstly, when Ruhi was ill, she was called a kidnapper for just helping his daughter. Her family was thrown in jail followed by her engagement being called off. She was never given a chance to explain herself, was she.? Secondly, yet again when she tried helping his sister, she was almost thrown out of the house by him. If I remember correctly, even he chose to not listen to her side of the story. He was ready to throw her out of the house, he would have as well done that had Param not shown himself. He has uttered some of the most brutal and insulting things to her.. he has changed now..even she has...
If she was the one to call Raman, the child abuser, she was the same person to bridge in the gap between Ruhi and Raman, She was the same one to prove him as a good father to the world.
Coming to the accident track, was there anything that she was to hear.? The one who was supposed to say something never did. Didn't she stand by him once learning the truth.? That's where the point kicks in, unless she knows the truth, how will she trust him and stand by him.? Same goes for her as well...

Coming to her believing the woman she hardly knows, yes she was wrong in trusting some random girl. But she was never told the truth about anything, though that won't justify her foolish act of believing a random person.!

The commitment lacks from both sides, unless they share everything with each other, the trust factor will always remain weak in their relationship. I am not supporting her, but my point precisely is, there are few things in their relation that need to be fulfilled from both sides.. Ishita solely is not responsible.!


Edited by -IshRaDivAn- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: redwine1



AAH SOPHEE U nailed it love


Ishita has been like this from the first day ...

. COMMITMENT IS MUTUAL .. i love that u used the word COMMITMENT .. this is what they r leading up to .. is she COMMITTED to being MRS. RAMAN KUMAR BHALLA .. or just ISHITA RAMAN BHALLA .. who is RUHI BHALLA's mom


Hi redwine😊

If you take each of their total experiences, Ishita lacks the emotional maturity to commit to this marriage fully. Raman went through hell in more ways than one...wife's betrayal, separation from Adi whom he adored, left with a newborn to raise on his own. He took the blinders off and learned from it.

Raman has dealt with a lot of his baggage before Ishita came into his life. Ishita hasn't and lack of trust is a big issue with her...or else why would she trust someone else's word over Raman's. Raman has been patient and shown signs he wants the marriage to be more than what they agreed to before the wedding. He knows who he is and what he wants, Ishita is playing the avoidance game she is not fully recovered from the hurt of past. Ishita has a lot to trash to meet Raman halfway in their marriage.

Edited by MERARAI - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sophee



I so agree with you Zen. And that's my main contention with Ishita. She's always quick to jump to conclusions about Raman and been ready to believe the worst. Following is the list of assumptions that she was oh so ready to make:
1. Raman is a child abuser...she believes Shagun but does not give Raman a chance to say anything in his defence
2. Raman is obsessed with Shagun, during DNA and then accident track...again she assumes that and again does not hear Raman's side
3. And now she believes a woman she's hardly known for a few days...again without giving Raman a chance to explain himself.

Trust is mutual and both partners have to show some commitment in really believing each other. Ishita seriously lacks that commitment.



Sophee, right from before marriage, she half heard convo that he loves just money when he was with his daughter in dental clinic. who is at fault for this MU started 😆

yes she lacks commitment. she told raman that she values all "kasams" taken while marriage rituals are taking place. 😉

Raman never let get insulted Ishu in front of anyone,. be it subbu s mother, be it ashok, be it shagun or be it Suraj,when he was in sense( minus adi s apologize where he started to redeem)
here she calls him unromantic and khadoos in front of his ex !! sorry but I am forced to compare.



Edited by Colt.Pixy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -IshRaDivAn-



I am sorry to disagree, but the same thing can be said about Raman..
He has always been aggressive and impulsive in his words and behavior with her.
Things may have changed now but there are several instances where she has faced the brunt of his anger..
Firstly, when Ruhi was ill, she was called a kidnapper for just helping his daughter. Her family was thrown in jail followed by her engagement being called off. She was never given a chance to explain herself, was she.? Secondly, yet again when she tried helping his sister, she was almost thrown out of the house by him. If I remember correctly, even he chose to not listen to her side of the story. He was ready to throw her out of the house, he would have as well done that had Param not shown himself. He has uttered some of the most brutal and insulting things to her.. he has changed now..even she has...
If she was the one to call Raman, the child abuser, she was the same person to bridge in the gap between Ruhi and Raman, She was the same one to prove him as a good father to the world.
Coming to the accident track, was there anything that she was to hear.? The one who was supposed to say something never did. Didn't she stand by him once learning the truth.? That's where the point kicks in, unless she knows the truth, how will she trust him and stand by him.? Same goes for her as well...

Coming to her believing the woman she hardly knows, yes she was wrong in trusting some random girl. But she was never told the truth about anything, though that won't justify her foolish act of believing a random person.!

The commitment lacks from both sides, unless they share everything with each other, the trust factor will always remain weak in their relationship. I am not supporting her, but my point precisely is, there are few things in their relation that need to be fulfilled from both sides.. Ishita solely is not responsible.!



There is nothing wrong with disagreeing. Its our POVs and I respect yours 😊
My post was on the fact that Raman has been shown to have progressed and actually made a better assessment of Ishita's character. He now does not jump to conclusions, while Ishita still tends to believes what she thinks is right. The three examples cited were only meant to highlight Ishita's penchant for assuming the worst about Raman without giving him a chance or hearing his side. Their relationship has come a long way from the days of Ishita being labelled a kidnapper or Raman being ridiculed publicly for being a lousy parent and losing his daughter in that process. So for Ishita to believe a random stranger at this stage of their relationship without confirming it with Raman was what I found difficult to accept. And hence the post 😊

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