Can We Think bit Neutrally and Chill??? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Dolly-heart

Nice Post.

I agree that many of us have opinions based on our own experience.

I too have siblings and my parents did not favour one over the other.

And when I became a parent of two children I knew not to favour the son over my daughter. As soon as you become a parent there are some hard rules one has to live by because you are trying to shape a future adult with good values and principles.

And Raman failed miserably as a parent by taking out his angst against Ruhi and his guilt for Adi to compromise the responsibility that a good parent has to have for the betterment of ones child.

Children learn from good examples set by their parents and it behoves us as parents to know when to show love to them and when to discipline them.

And as far as Ishita and her forgiveness is concerned I personally do not find anything wrong in it as long as the person that has made a mistake genuinely regrets what they did and DO NOT repeat the mistake over and over again.

Because to Err is Human and to forgive is divine. And Ishita can forgive him as long as they both know and understand what was done and why it is forgiven.

Communicating that in a relationship is essential so no grudges are left over and when the air is cleared both start with a clean slate.

In this case Raman has made huge mistakes as a father and a husband to Ishita and he has to try his best to teach Adi a lesson so he will grow up as a good and responsible adult and has to ask Ishita for forgiveness with the promise that he will show her the respect that is her right as his present wife and NOT bring the past into their present and mess it up as he did.

Then their future will work itself out and the title of this show... "Yeh Hai Mohabbtein"

will actually be true.

Thanks Dolly.
Yup...Raman obviously is a bad father. He is discrimination..whatever basis is that. Ruhi in sensible like Ishita, that doesn't mean she should be taken granted for. If this continues from Raman's side, we will see another Ishita growing up in pain and suffering.
About your last para...everyone is saying that Ishita loves Raman that's why she is feeling insecure. But, I think it otherways. Being a wife gives you right and some auto generated feelings in you, no need to love the husband for those feelings. I have a friend who is married kinda forcefully, she doesn't love her husband, but she also doesn't like the fact of her husband coming late at home. I told her that may be he is busy in works. She says, even after work hours what work is there, she is losing patience and then says she doesn't know why she feels like this, but she just doesn't want her husband to time pass unnecessarily with other men or women. Then, I get...it's actually the legal right women hits upon😆. So, in such case, Raman doesn't even need to know whether she loves her or not. He is a married person, he must know what women feel when they see their husbands ignoring them and giving time to other woman. He himself is victim of this. So, it's not difficult for him to understand Ishita's turmoil. It's like he doesn't want to understand it😕.

Originally posted by: aimf

Great post, dear Tanni. I enjoyed your views and like the fact that you too, like Ishita, are very forgiving. It is a great trait to have and I commend you for it.

Thanks dear.
Yup..I am like her, though honestly sometimes I wish, I shouldn't be like this. Cos, this is considered abnormal to many. Even my mom sometimes say that forgiving is good thing, but not all mistakes should be forgiven, don't give chances to others to repeat the mistakes. But, what to do...I can't mend myself suddenly as it has been in me from childhood😆.

Originally posted by: ThruMyEyez-Nita

Same here, I have been waiting for that conversation since the Param fiasco and it needs to happen soon or their relationship will never move forward in the real sense.

exactly it's the time raman stops doing adi adi adi all the time
Fine he loves him and is obsessed with him but now it's high time he stops ranting about it and stops hurting Ishu
From last couple of episodes it's proven that he still believes Shagun in some way and her talks and thoughts are matters to him rather than what Ishu thinks
Him claiming Ishu as his wife after him beating prevent and warning Neil that Ishu shouldn't get hurt in the case process but himself has hurt her with no remorse or gilt whatsoever and this sis the assassination of RKB character
his character has been damaged way above my imagination that until and unless like I said he doesn't talk to Ishu properly and apologies to her none of their upcoming moments can excite me
I won't be able to enjoy them ever

Originally posted by: berrysweet

This track had so much of potential... now , it s just gone!

With this track we should have seen a remorseful Raman who would KNOW and understand his wife. Instead we have a Raman who has lied, cheated, distrusted. his wife. He has called her a thief and a liar . Not showing any sign of remorse, he is now manupalating her..

In other words he is happiliy taking advantage of her goodness and vulnerability. And here, my dear kind TM, is the problem... When you forgive and let it go too easily (As u do not want to make issues of things} you have in a way not helped at all. The person who has been forgiven might in fact just grow more arrogant as he would not have learnt any thing at all.. Like Adi , they will grow only in the negative way.

They way Ishu is blamed and spoken about so rudely by Shagun is not acceptable. The way he simply agreed that Ishu will without a thouhgt harm Adi is even more disgusting. The way he came in trying to talk to her as naturally as possibly in such a false manner is also a grand put off. Is there no honesty in Raman any more?

The relationship, if not repaired by tonight or Monday ,has gone awry. According to spoilers things will go the normal way soon... that makes me puke!

Well, yup, I know forgiving always is not the solution. It's kinda giving chances to the person for doing the same mistake over and over. But, as I said in above post, like Ishita, I too can't mend myself suddenly from this.
About the show, yup, Raman should stop taking advantage of her goodness. He uses her and when his self interest is affected he doesn't hesitate to misbehave with her. That's what hurts more. I wish when he is in love with Ishu, he will remember all these and feel the pain he has given to Ishita and suffer like hell.
And, what's with CVs...I don't actually understand. They go through our forum. Dint they see that each and every member of this forum wanted IshRa patch up to be done slowly? They can give non-IshRa track for two months, what's stopping them to give an IshRa track at least for one week? Go slowly with IshRa's love story, but that doesn't mean sideline it..which is the main focus of this show. It's actually sometimes irritating from CVs😡.

Originally posted by: Angel13

exactly it's the time raman stops doing adi adi adi all the time
Fine he loves him and is obsessed with him but now it's high time he stops ranting about it and stops hurting Ishu
From last couple of episodes it's proven that he still believes Shagun in some way and her talks and thoughts are matters to him rather than what Ishu thinks
Him claiming Ishu as his wife after him beating prevent and warning Neil that Ishu shouldn't get hurt in the case process but himself has hurt her with no remorse or gilt whatsoever and this sis the assassination of RKB character
his character has been damaged way above my imagination that until and unless like I said he doesn't talk to Ishu properly and apologies to her none of their upcoming moments can excite me
I won't be able to enjoy them ever

As I previously said in some other post that no matter how Raman tries to justify himself now, mistakes happened, heart breaks happened, and there is no forgiving him now from me. I can't love him the way before I used to love. It will not be the same really😭. It has lost its sparks.

Absolutely agree Dolly. Love comes later in an arrange marriage. But, respect and trust should be built before.
In IshRa's case, Raman always says that Ishita is his wife, but does he accept this? I sometimes have doubt about this considering his behavior.
And, yeah, it's high time now CVs should actually focus on Ishita as a strong character who can be inspiration of many women. CVs should show that Ishita is fighting for her self respect which is her human right. I hope, CVs listen to us.

Very good points...

Great post! Really needed that after watching worst episode ever.

Originally posted by: Anita.patel

Very good points...

Actually me too will never understand this first born love obsession because in my home me and my brother got equal love...

But my point is Raman always discuss about Adi and his memories.. At least with ishita he has to discuss about ruhi and her birth etc. Which ishita doesn't know...she s ruhi's mother ...but no...he always start Adi jap there also ...

After param fiasco they didn't discuss anything ..that time they r not on friendship term even so that is not big issue but if they don't discuss whole trust matter this time than it will be big disappointment for me...if not that means they r still there where they r after param fiasco..no progress at all...ishita will forgive him easily but they have to discuss..

After watching last two days epi I don't know who will open Raman's eyes...and Adi custody case now..don't understand where is the track is going but I want proper progress on ishra relation ...with full trust on each other and love also..