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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: pomegranate


CV's have created such a situation in which raman will save the day and restore her dignity, no one is doubting that. I know he trusts ishita, people just wishes he kept his mouth shut towards the end. I think someone pointed this out in another thread, the deeper issue here is, CV's paint raman in an awful light then later when he saves the day, everything is ok and forgotten. he suddenly becomes the hero all over again. that's fine but how many times will these hindi serials use this tactic? heroes make shameful mistakes but then they also become the knight in shining armour and somehow, all the mistakes he has committed becomes a non-issue. Ekta mayyi does it in all her serials and it needs to stop.

Raman blurted out their private matter in the heat of moment but who paid the ulimate price? sure "it happens" but the reason people are so miffed is because ishita's dignity was at stake. everything about today's episode, from the moronic bhalla's to raman's final blow was a shameful moment for womankind. ishita's expression when raman said that still makes me tear up, I usually don't connect with characters of hindi serials, but today's episode drove me to tears today.

the reactions all over forum has been volatile because this is a sensitive issue and most of us are woman. it's bad enough that crimes against women are peaking all over the world but in india, when a women is brave enough to stand up, they have tolerate this type of nonsense.


@bold ...yess...

pomegranate... tey r nt seeing the point wt we trying to tell...

tey keep on saying raman will prove..trust...

but wen this Damage is done..wht the use in proving😡


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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: serendipity.

Enough with bashing Raman. Seriously. Everyone beforehand jumps to conclusions, bashes Raman, and then, at the end of the day, Raman saves the day n sabki bolti band. I'll brb with the same review/answer that i wrote yday. Brb

I DONT BLAME Raman. I still dont, and i swear im not being biased. Im just putting myself in his shoes. I feel so sad for him. I feel for him. Seriously! I soo know hes going to be bashed like always, and then he only will be the one to prove his wife innocent!
Adi k school wale chakkar mai bhi, everyone came down to conclusions, bloody bashed Raman, next day, sab ki bolti band!

Poor guy man! HES RAMAN KUMAR BHALLA! NOT MIHIR (whatever his fullname is) he WILL NOT accept only or say MY WIFE IS INNOCENT MY HEART KNOWS THAT. He CANNOT say that!!!!! Hes unsure himself, he KNOWS ishita cant do this yaar! He just wants to get to the bottom of this himself. He has to have CLEAR-CUT proves to prove to his family and EVERYONE. I thought Ekta was OVER this tyohaar k din sacchaai reveal karofy wale tracks and stuff but i guess not!?, but please guys, dont be so harsh on Raman usko bhi samjho!


He doesnt LOVE ishu to trust her blindly and hes STILL trusting her, and i was disappointed in him kholingg the relationship wali baat, but now that i come to think of it. The phone, the message, is revolving in front of everyone... everyone WILL read the messages sooner or later... pata toh chalna hi tha? Toshi ji etc ne toh dekh hi liya tha, toh chupana kis se tha!? -__-

I feel so sorry for Ishita... but then, everyone IS sorry for her. She, poor soul, my baby, shes the victim 😔 but again, RAMAN k angle se koi kyu nahi sochta i wonder! -_-


@bold...

at the end he is man... nothing goin to be lose for him..if he blamed or not...

is it same like with ishita... is the blame...just be washed out...

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Posted: 11 years ago
#33
shiva... it s a sensitive issue...
not a fanatsy
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Nichuss


@bold ...yess...

pomegranate... tey r nt seeing the point wt we trying to tell...

tey keep on saying raman will prove..trust...

but wen this Damage is done..wht the use in proving😡



Raman did commit a mistake, but his "mistake" completely devestated and shattered ishita. when somone's stupid mistake and lack of control destroys another person's will to fight, then that becomes inexcusable and problematic.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35
Important question Nishuz.

I know and it seemed from Raman's face that he is trusting Ishu..just he doesn't have any proof to say for her. But, that one line of him...he shouldn't have asked this. It kinda made Ishu feel that Raman is also distrusting her. And, there's the problem. It's normal asking such question from a husband to a wife in a relationship. But, are IshRa in a normal relationship...so, why was Raman being a typical husband?

Wasn't he the one saying that this marriage is a compromise and why Ishu had to act silly? Now, has he forgotten that this is a compromised marriage, not one like where he can ask his wife such question.


Well, this is my POV. I don't get it..why Raman fans always take anything said against Raman as a bashing?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: DivAniTanni

Important question Nishuz.

I know and it seemed from Raman's face that he is trusting Ishu..just he doesn't have any proof to say for her. But, that one line of him...he shouldn't have asked this. It kinda made Ishu feel that Raman is also distrusting her. And, there's the problem. It's normal asking such question from a husband to a wife in a relationship. But, are IshRa in a normal relationship...so, why was Raman being a typical husband?

Wasn't he the one saying that this marriage is a compromise and why Ishu had to act silly? Now, has he forgotten that this is a compromised marriage, not one like where he can ask his wife such question.


Well, this is my POV. I don't get it..why Raman fans always take anything said against Raman as a bashing?


i ddint said he trust her or nt believeing i just pointed wht he said last was justifiable or nt..
leav it tanni...

tey wont accept it...

its big sensitive issue and for them its like raman will prove it...

wen tagged n abused n insulted...wt need of proving 😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: ForbbidenLove

Raman is a NORMAL human being just like you & me. In the heat of the moment, we don't always have the CONTROL of what we say OR do. So if Raman is not justified than 99.9% of the people in this world regardless of being a Man OR Woman cannot be justified either. AND if we expect for a realistic show than Raman behaviour was the REAL deal. Nobody is perfect yaar, we can't always say AND do the everything perfectly, along the way we are gonna make some mistakes and hurt our loved ones but that doesn't mean that we should view them as the worse person in the world.


where i said raman is worse person...i asked was t justified wht raman said...? saying a person wrong...and asking whtr justification is differen


For crying out loud, cut the guy some slack already AND even the poor Ishu is being bashed already... We need to get out of our ISHRA fantasy world and view this entire thing with a REALISTIC mindset keeping in my the actual REALITY of the world. A Man OR a Woman who have been in love and married for even 50++ years would have almost behaved the way Raman did. Raman is NO mahan here guys, just a NORMAL human being.




Sorry Shivz. But, isn't Raman contradicting himself? He himself said that night that their marriage is a compromised one, so now why he is suspecting Ishu that perhaps she revealed about their relationship? He trusts her, I agree 200%. But, are IshRa having a normal relationship you mentioned? When, he has nothing to do with her, why he brought such question like a typical husband? We say he is not like other men, he is mostly different from other men in terms of expressing feelings. Then, how come today he expressed his feelings like a typical husband? I just don't get it😕.
We know, from spoilers that he trusts Ishu, but, a woman in her place when will hear such question from her husband, won't she think that her husband is suspecting her character? If we are asked to see Raman's point of view, why some can't see from Ishu's point of view also?
Edited by DivAniTanni - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: pomegranate


CV's have created such a situation in which raman will save the day and restore her dignity, no one is doubting that. I know he trusts ishita, people just wishes he kept his mouth shut towards the end. I think someone pointed this out in another thread, the deeper issue here is, CV's paint raman in an awful light then later when he saves the day, everything is ok and forgotten. he suddenly becomes the hero all over again. that's fine but how many times will these hindi serials use this tactic? heroes make shameful mistakes but then they also become the knight in shining armour and somehow, all the mistakes he has committed becomes a non-issue. Ekta mayyi does it in all her serials and it needs to stop.

Raman blurted out their private matter in the heat of moment but who paid the ulimate price? sure "it happens" but the reason people are so miffed is because ishita's dignity was at stake. everything about today's episode, from the moronic bhalla's to raman's final blow was a shameful moment for womankind. ishita's expression when raman said that still makes me tear up, I usually don't connect with characters of hindi serials, but today's episode drove me to tears today.

the reactions all over forum has been volatile because this is a sensitive issue and most of us are woman. it's bad enough that crimes against women are peaking all over the world but in india, when a women is brave enough to stand up, they have tolerate this type of nonsense.


Ps: just because raman will investigate further into this matter and save the day, does not excuse his indiscretions

Because this is a SHOW, pomegranate!
Its a SHOW... CVs have to do this. How and WHAT exactly were you all expecting? Raman to either remain silent when his world was breaking apart or for hi to be stupid, overly dramatic and say "BASS, BAUHOT HOGAYA! MERI BIWI KA CHARITRA PAAK HAI, AUR MAIN ISKI GAVAAHI DETA HOON!" < -__- 😵 puhleez! :P
He couldnt right away go to her, embrace her, cry and say, sorry i mistrusted you for a second... i mean, he is a REALISTIC character, and we are SUPPOSED to forgive his mistake of blurting out the relationship truth, and ANYHOW they were ALL reading the messages, it was ABSOLUTELY CLEAR in the messages how Ishita apparently wrote that she gets *physical love* wali vibes ONLY from him... i mean, Toshi and Simmi dood peete bacche hain k they wont understand?

Also, whatever "Ekta Maiyya's" tactics are, at the end of the day its a BALAJI, STAR PLUS, FICTIONAL show and its absolutely ridiculous to have such complaints from it. This show is SO realistic, so fast paced, and people STILL have problems with it... im only imagining HOW ON EARTH do they tolerate/Tolerated other shows?! 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Nichuss


i ddint said he trust her or nt believeing i just pointed wht he said last was justifiable or nt..
leav it tanni...

tey wont accept it...

its big sensitive issue and for them its like raman will prove it...

wen tagged n abused n insulted...wt need of proving 😡


Nishuz..I too wanted to say only in justifiable or not. But, seeing some comments only defending Raman made me comment that one.

And, about justifiable ... what would I say? I guess, it's the mentality of society to accept all mistakes of men or husband, whether that hurts the women badly or not. But, for me, whichever condition Raman is in, he has no right to ask such question in that moment?
Tell me everyone here, he can't get rid of his past still. But, think about the girl, her present is at stake and killing her inside, dint she deserve lil but support from her husband? He can keep silent when she will leave, so why couldn't he now😲? And, this is not justifiable from any angle.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: pomegranate



CV's have created such a situation in which raman will save the day and restore her dignity, no one is doubting that. I know he trusts ishita, people just wishes he kept his mouth shut towards the end. I think someone pointed this out in another thread, the deeper issue here is, CV's paint raman in an awful light then later when he saves the day, everything is ok and forgotten. he suddenly becomes the hero all over again. that's fine but how many times will these hindi serials use this tactic? heroes make shameful mistakes but then they also become the knight in shining armour and somehow, all the mistakes he has committed becomes a non-issue. Ekta mayyi does it in all her serials and it needs to stop.

Raman blurted out their private matter in the heat of moment but who paid the ulimate price? sure "it happens" but the reason people are so miffed is because ishita's dignity was at stake. everything about today's episode, from the moronic bhalla's to raman's final blow was a shameful moment for womankind. ishita's expression when raman said that still makes me tear up, I usually don't connect with characters of hindi serials, but today's episode drove me to tears today.

the reactions all over forum has been volatile because this is a sensitive issue and most of us are woman. it's bad enough that crimes against women are peaking all over the world but in india, when a women is brave enough to stand up, they have tolerate this type of nonsense.


Ps: just because raman will investigate further into this matter and save the day, does not excuse his indiscretions



This is one of some very good matured post here after this incident
People are just trying here to glorify male leads behavior which does not need any justification when you can t stand up for your wife in turbulent times then no words

Raman was equating his personal life decision with molest and harassment so I just don t get as to why he needs justification

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