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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Hey Sneha 😊

thanks for the reply and I got your message too about it earlier 😊

See I am not saying they are gonna bring back Subu like sometime soon, but I believe they will at some point.

If you remember we had this convo about Ishita' past and her story not having any prominence until now in the show in my SS - The Risk To Blossom, and I had said then - perhaps because the makers are opting for a novel-like approach here with Raman acting as the narrator, we see things he sees and knows and has lived so far, but until and unless he learns the story of Ishita' past, we wont too. Hence Ishita' story would need to have Subu in it. Even if in scenes of flashbacks.

Raman believes his relationship would have completed 12 years the month he married Ishita, and he even sarcastically asks the same to Ishita when they leave to attend that valentine' day party by his friend, as to how can people sustain a relationship for that long. And Ishita just looked at him with this resignation that said - this man is such a pessimist,Can he never believe in anything?

Ishita, as is shown was in a relationship with Subu since the time they were 15 - now even if they broke up some 4-5 years ago, that would make their relationship a decade long at the least, given the fact that Ishu is 30 now. She knows a relationship can survive that long - but is even aware that it doesn't guarantee a lifetime of togetherness.

Raman I think merely believes or is under the impression Ishita was engaged to Subu and later on with Pratik - though that never materialized - he doesn't know she was in love with the guy for such a long time. That even she carries that exact same baggage - memories that don't abandon, dreams that never got realized and trust that was betrayed.

When I say about things being out in the open - I am not saying things have to be explored in detail with attention to every memory and event - but that it is important for Ishita to learn that Raman was the one betrayed here and Shagun isn't the victim she perceives her to be. Their marriage ended because she chose to walk out on Raman for riches from another man, not because he was a sadist who abused her son, as Shagun had informed Ishita, on the occasion of her marriage with Raman. Yes, the recent restaurant apology ought a have made Ishita question the authenticity of those accusations but the makers never went there.

Similarly, Raman has to know Ishita' story too, if not in an in-depth version then at least the outlines of it, he doesnt have any idea of what Ishita has went through - all he knows is her engagement broke because she is barren - and while that is true, there is more to the story then just the conclusion he learned, and unless he finds that out - however will he be able to bond with Ishita? Learn that here is a woman who has faced as much as him, and yet it hasn't made her into this ruthless person he chose to become, he would strive to better himself, if perhaps he learns that he isn't singled out here - in this act of betrayal - Ishita too has been dealt much the same hand as him.

I am not saying Subu will necessarily try to win back Ishita - but their paths might cross and given that Ishita' story needs to be heard (and this is Balaji, we are talking about) I am sure they will.

regarding your point whether Ishita is still hurt - yes she is. Like I said I am slowly catching up with the show and I recently started catching up on what I missed online and in the very 3rd episode of the show - the scenes of which I have posted the caps - Subu makes an appearance in the present too. Ishita is not only visibly shaken by his appearance but admits to having found someone when she sees him holding hands with his very pregnant wife in front of her - her resolve to lie becomes firm upon that moment. And later when she reaches her home, which was flooded due to a tap left open, she is shown to be aggressive and completely angry, that makes me believe she isn't over the hurt Subu caused her. She is over him - but she hasn't healed. She has just been able to have a better grip over herself.

And as is said still waters run deep - Ishita is calm on the surface - but there is a turbulence of enormous amount simmering beneath it.

Shagun' withdrawal made Raman aggressive - he erected walls around himself and withdrew the loving, kind man he was. Subu' betrayal - it exactly is not known what sorta effect it had on Ishita - like we already discussed - her story is still an unopened. untouched book. 😳

The recent hug Raman suddenly sprang upon her - she goes slack and is shocked by his audacity not only because it was an uncalled-for and unexpected gesture - but because besides Subu, she never ever has been held by another man, not in the way Raman did at least and spoken those words too as well. And here she was by a man who barely is nice to her if at all, so that was not appreciated by her.

And in case Subu re-appears, it will be interesting to see Ishita handle his return and Raman would definitely be someone to watch out for, he has lost a wife to another man - if his current wife finds herself face to face with her past - it is a possibility he may find himself thinking, dreading - that history may repeat itself with him. And that might perhaps finally open his eyes to the nature of his relationship with Ishita and how he feels for her, he wouldnt want to be with a woman he doesnt love but he wouldnt be able to be without her too, and not only because Ruhi cannot lose another mother.

Something has to snap out IshRa from this - Sirf Ruhi ke liye mode - and that can be only if they learn to find the partner they both want and need in life in each other- but for that purpose they need to heal from the wounds of their past, and while none of them has succeeded in the past alone - together they would and will - but for that to happen, they have to first learn that they both carry the same wounds, are ailed by the same pain. 😳

Aani, I am speechless! Do not take this in the wrong way but you reply with so much conviction and belief that I forget my counter argument by the time I reach the end of the post.😆. It makes me want to see the show through your eyes.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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if they are actually siblings, it would be a great fun to see them...

it would be a nice track...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Metamorphmagus

Aani, I am speechless! Do not take this in the wrong way but you reply with so much conviction and belief that I forget my counter argument by the time I reach the end of the post.😆. It makes me want to see the show through your eyes.😆


Sneha why would I take your words otherwise 😳 I honestly dont know how and why I come up with the things I do, but only that once I get a particular idea, a notion I try to think it from all possible ends. Being a FF writer who likes to pay attention to the details of what she is doing, that has become a part of my thinking I guess 😳 so I just tried to put my POV across here. Honestly if I could get inspired enough and get some sorta clarity as to how this whole thing can be approached - IshRa learning about their pasts I would write on it, but at the moment - all I know is I want it to happen and don't know the way for it to go about 😒 so that perhaps came across in my post here.

As for the counter argument anything that you come up with wont offend me, trust me, I love to read - books, opinions - it helps me look at things in ways that perhaps escaped my notice - so any and all of your arguments are always welcome 😊

@bold - aww thank you, ☺️ that is such a sweet thing to say, honestly one of the best compliment (if I may term it that 😳) I have received on IF so thank you 😃.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: 13MEGHA05

if they are actually siblings, it would be a great fun to see them...

it would be a nice track...


Yep Megha that would def spice things up - Ishita and Shagun would have one more connection -they would be the sisters of a couple, which makes them relatives, in-laws - besides having the Raman connect.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: EkPaheli


Sneha why would I take your words otherwise 😳 I honestly dont know how and why I come up with the things I do, but only that once I get a particular idea, a notion I try to think it from all possible ends. Being a FF writer who likes to pay attention to the details of what she is doing, that has become a part of my thinking I guess 😳 so I just tried to put my POV across here. Honestly if I could get inspired enough and get some sorta clarity as to how this whole thing can be approached - IshRa learning about their pasts I would write on it, but at the moment - all I know is I want it to happen and don't know the way for it to go about 😒 so that perhaps came across in my post here.

As for the counter argument anything that you come up with wont offend me, trust me, I love to read - books, opinions - it helps me look at things in ways that perhaps escaped my notice - so any and all of your arguments are always welcome 😊

@bold - aww thank you, ☺️ that is such a sweet thing to say, honestly one of the best compliment (if I may term it that 😳) I have received on IF so thank you 😃.

Not every one think like you. A writer generally works towards butting his/her interpretation out. You search for the good and defend every one. You are my Jane Bennet. 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Tumney mere mann mein yeh kaisaa doubt daal diya hai..but wow great inference..lgical n possible..i need to read the whole thread 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think they are siblings

Maybe they became orphans after Raman Shagun shaadi n Raman took care of a then teen Mihir

Shgun dumped Raman but Mihir knows right from wrong and stayed with Raman who became more a brother than BIL

His sister did not care two hoots about him

So the rihta of raman mihir because of shagun but then maybe he became more close to raman than his money hungry sis so Mihir said that relation between us is because of Raman

Even in FBs they have never shown Mihir call Shagun bahbhi

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Metamorphmagus

Not every one think like you. A writer generally works towards butting his/her interpretation out. You search for the good and defend every one. You are my Jane Bennet. 😆


Hey 😊

@bold - Ah I know exactly what you mean, have known a few of the types - not professionals of course, but writers nonetheless - but I take it as their loss, putting on blinders doesn't limit the world as per me - it just doesn't allow you to broaden your horizons. If you cannot even consider anyone else' ideas or opinions that as per me is a very sad state of affairs for a person - for I believe learning is a never-ending process, and once you are convinced of there being nothing left, you stop your growth 😳

@red - ☺️ Cant say anything about that - but would like a Darcy as you do know 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chahanya

I think they are siblings

Maybe they became orphans after Raman Shagun shaadi n Raman took care of a then teen Mihir

Shgun dumped Raman but Mihir knows right from wrong and stayed with Raman who became more a brother than BIL

His sister did not care two hoots about him

So the rihta of raman mihir because of shagun but then maybe he became more close to raman than his money hungry sis so Mihir said that relation between us is because of Raman

Even in FBs they have never shown Mihir call Shagun bahbhi

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Hey Chahanya welcome to the YHM forum 😃 and thanks so much for the comment and for using my post for that 😃

I agree I was having a discussion with one of my friends and she too pointed out the same. We think at the time of Raman & Shagun' wedding may be she already had lost her mom/dad and that parent raised Mihir and Shagun all alone, mostly we think they were raised by a widowed mother hence they had to face a lot of financial woes growing up making Shagun materialistic and also it being the reason she agreed to marry Raman in the first place when he looked nerdy and geeky - he was in a better financial position than her family.

And while initially that was enough once she had a taste of the kind of wealth Ashok has it wasnt and so she left - the shame and humiliation ultimately ended the life of her mom too. She might have committed suicide for all we know so yeah Mihir has a valid grudge against his sis - if Shagun is indeed that.

And the only person who still stood by them at the terrible hour must have been Raman hence Mihir' loyalty is with him. Not only out of a sense of obligation or because of the right and wrongs of it - but because Raman earned it. 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jay_tapori

Tumney mere mann mein yeh kaisaa doubt daal diya hai..but wow great inference..lgical n possible..i need to read the whole thread 😊


Jay this doubt is in the minds of a lot of people on the forum but am glad I initiated you into the club 😆

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