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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ Nikki

👏 Bravo. You have brought out really awesome points. Yes, there is the question of free will and choice there, which I did not address, but you did that so beautifully and completely. Yes, people are responsible for their behaviors, and should not be let off the hook for what they do on purpose, and end up hurting the ones they love as a consequence.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Mancity and @Mages

Thanks for your comments. I appreciate them.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aimf

@ Nikki

👏 Bravo. You have brought out really awesome points. Yes, there is the question of free will and choice there, which I did not address, but you did that so beautifully and completely. Yes, people are responsible for their behaviors, and should not be let off the hook for what they do on purpose, and end up hurting the ones they love as a consequence.



@bold..
yes dear u got exactly wht i wanted to convey...if u had addressed it,i guess ur entire post ka theme would get changed...

bt its ok..!! i njoyed readin ur take n also loved writin my differnt take to it too...😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Again and - I loved your post as above. Some of my thoughts below for your feedback and consideration - in bold

Originally posted by: aimf

Priding herself for hailing from an educated (read cultured) family, who have a perfect presentation of self, and who never err in public, Ishu had zero tolerance for Raman and his drunkenness.

The problem with these bhashans was that they were delivered from an ivory tower of righteous notions of culture and family values.

Re: both of the above. In addition to her background, Ishita has a need to be Perfect. That's why her inability to conceive is such a sensitive point for her and why the likes of Bala's mom can push her buttons so easily as she subconsciously sees it as a flaw in herself (not that it actually is a flaw at all). Perfectionism is her way of continuously trying to correct this flaw. Her righteousness is also her protection mechanism to protect herself from being rejected by men/society.

Be that as it may, I think Toshi's recurrent one-liners to the tunes of of "we have also raised children; we know how to run a kitchen --in fact we have done it for the last 35 years" etc. were also retaliations at what she perceived as Ishu's aloofness arising from her refusal to get off her holier-than-thou hobby-horse of sort.

Very insightful point re Toshiji and the distance with Ishita. I know sometime when I do a know-it-all tirade with my mom once too often she will say. "Humne bhi bahot Diwali dekhee Hain" - usually gets me back to earth mighty fast 😊😳



That Ishu continued to cling on to her morals and judge everyone through her own lenses is not something we can hold against her. After all, she was stuck in an unfamiliar cultural milieu, and a hostile marriage that was not of her own making. When people are in such dire straits, they tend to cope by holding on to whatever they can. This was the only way Ishu could cling on to a sense of self imparted to her by her culture and upbringing. However, this very culture that served to uplift her in the past, gift her with an education and make her a highly regarded dentist in her profession, was slowly beginning to strangulate her chances of discovering a shared sense of self in relation to her new family.
Fabulous point - what is her tried and true winning formula in one environment fails to work in another environment/belief system. In a sense this perfectionism/righteneous which is a defense mechanism anyway distances her from her new family and others too.

This was because Ishu's moral policing obfuscated her ability to differentiate between the person and his or her behavior. Ishu was quick to conclude that Raman's behavior equals Raman himself, and this non-separation made her more alienated from him, and vice-verse.


Once she began to ruminate about her actions and the cool waters of discrimination washed over her, she was able to see herself in a new and fallible light. Fallibility is the precursor of compassion and emotional growth. If she, Ishita Iyer, the moral police of the neighborhood could be so fallible, what about others? If she, a good and law-abiding person, could behave so undesirably, perhaps others with undesirable behaviors were also not bad people? Perhaps they were just misled?

Yes!!! Raman is in touch with his humanity and flaws. That's why even though he able to criticisize Ishita's behaviour/rudeness while drunk, he did not equate it with Ishita as a person ; he was therefore able to stand indignantly and proudly for Ishita's dignity, accomplishments,value and position in his life when Bala's mom taunted Ishita about her two failed engagements. Being accepting about his own humanity and fallibility makes him compassionate to Ishita's flaws.

"Fallibility is the precursor of compassion and emotional growth". Love, love love this

I loved the light banter and casual demeanor with which the Bhalla family greeted Ishita's hangover. They did not shove it in her face, or make her feel bad about it, but they also were not beyond heartily enjoying her predicament. It seemed as though they were truly welcoming her into the family, as she was now part of their secret, their secret of coping with the pains in their lives.

Her imperfection actually secured love, compassion and acceptance in her new family - this whole scene was so touching beneath the humour

. She not only acknowledges Ruhi's question but answers it with a grace that lovingly cloaks the entire family with acceptance. Immediately she is joined by Toshi, who embellishes and builds upon Ishita's response to Ruhi, and for the first time we see both the mother and the grandmother on the same page, parenting the child together as a team.

Yes, an awkward moment handled with grace by two women with one common goal - for Toshiji this drinking of Ishu was very much about hamaare rang mein rang gay I - not so much about her condoning the drinking but about the acceptance

Thanks to all for reading this post. Comments and thoughts are welcome.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ asha

Thanks for the detailed response. You have raised excellent points. Kudos to the observation that you made right at the beginning: Ishita's perfectionism as her shield against rejection by men. 👏 That was a fantastic point and also explains why she is so sensitive to the types of Bala's mother. You are a very insightful writer. I look forward to more posts from and conversations with you.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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This was an amazing post. Indeed ishitha was totally a Bhalla today and her mother did look like the outsider :). It was definitely an important rite of passage for the daughter in law to understand her in- laws and very importantly her husband in a new light. May this incident pave a new way in the family relations.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ NIkki

Thanks for your response.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@goldilocks

Thanks for your kind words.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Loved reading your post- a very interesting, insightful and well-articulated perspective on todays episode indeed.
To add to your thoughts on Ishita's "fall from grace" 😆, I think this should help Ishita realize that behind the facade of politeness and well-mannered behavior, she is no different than Raman or the Bhalla's. We bother and focus so much sometimes with keeping up pretenses that we forget to be genuine with ourselves and others. For me, Ishita found her genuineness today, even if it was temporary.
Look forward to reading more of your posts 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you dear Walden for your response. I like the point you make about Ishu finding her genuineness, along with your subtle and cautious statement "at least for right now." I think it is good to remember, as you appear to suggest, that this may not be a miraculous shift in Ishita, but the start of a process. At least that is how it is in real, if not reel, life.

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