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Posted: 14 years ago
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tiny @ I agree...
Vansh's death was a big shock n that too he was shot... Ichcha didnt know that vansh had shot himself... and Vansh pointing at veer before breathing his last didnt help..and obviously in grief n shock she accused veer ....just because Ichcha accused Veer doesnt mean her love for him is not true as some people claim...
even Vansh was suspicious of veer n Ichcha, thanks to the games played by Taps n nani... and he kept accusing n suspecting them all the time ...but non of us are doubting his intense love for Ichcha...
then why cant Ichcha make a mistake... she accused Veer n regretted deeply for it... but today she is his wife and loves only him heart n soul and will stand by him come what may...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: cjs369


tiny @ I agree...
Vansh's death was a big shock n that too he was shot... Ichcha didnt know that vansh had shot himself... and Vansh pointing at veer before breathing his last didnt help..and obviously in grief n shock she accused veer ....just because Ichcha accused Veer doesnt mean her love for him is not true as some people claim...
even Vansh was suspicious of veer n Ichcha, thanks to the games played by Taps n nani... and he kept accusing n suspecting them all the time ...but non of us are doubting his intense love for Ichcha...
then why cant Ichcha make a mistake... she accused Veer n regretted deeply for it... but today she is his wife and loves only him heart n soul and will stand by him come what may...


yes, one thing which do bothers me is after iccha came to know that taps had attempted to kill her....she still wanted Veer to be with taps....wud you want a person you truly love to be with a criminal...this I still cant digest...but then I guess its the way iccha's character has been chalked out that she is very forgiving.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: cjs369


Ichcha married Vansh out of misguided sense of duty towards an undeserving friend, taps... just to save tap's doomed marriage....she also thought she was helping Vansh to lead a drug free life...
but over a period of time she did come to care for him deeply which was again thretened by his suspicions n emotional torture he put her thru now n then... but Ichcha did give her 100% to that relationship n wud have been a wife in all its sense... but that was not to be...

Now she has moved on ... it was the CVs prerogative that they made all this happen so soon...
but she has now understood her heart and that it belongs to veer... and their marriage will be a strong one ... they will always support each other in all dire circumstances... VeeCha will be together for ever



Completely agree! It is sometime very normal for for example victims (like person kidnapped) to sympathize with their captors (abductors). I felt Ichcha's deep feeling for Vansh while he continued and enhanced means to emotionally torture her and was even hallucinating/scheming to bring physical harm to Veer and Ichcha -- was part of her delusional attachment. Veer's character had announced at his wedding night when he had discovered the treachery -- that Ichcha is his wife and will always remain so. Ichcha's character never made such an announcement - but Ichcha always loved Veer (though often acted against him for sake of family, Tappu, duty, Mai, and Vansh). Quicker a person snaps out of such a delusion is better. She can get back to normalcy sooner. So, it is good that Ichcha married Veer soon.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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its well known some people like counting days and month as per their convenience. we hv been hearing this 3-4 month logic for long time, but if tomorrow CVs wd decide to show the real pregnancy after 4-5 month the same people wd not hv any problem with CVs. another things Ichha sd be blame for accusing Veer, misguided by evidences (created by near dear Tapu Rani) but Tapu's love is pure being silent, knowing the reality and seeing Veer suffering to save her own a**. Again the same people criticizing Ichha for not fighting for her love in past but now hv problem whn she is standing for her love. if Ichha wd hv been strong Tapu Bitiya wd hv been chakki pissing in the jail instead of watching film in B house and enjoying Mai services. so people like to criticise as per their convenience.😆😆😆

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ankit111

its well known some people like counting days and month as per their convenience. we hv been hearing this 3-4 month logic for long time, but if tomorrow CVs wd decide to show the real pregnancy after 4-5 month the same people wd not hv any problem with CVs. another things Ichha sd be blame for accusing Veer, misguided by evidences (created by near dear Tapu Rani) but Tapu's love is pure being silent, knowing the reality and seeing Veer suffering to save her own a**. Again the same people criticizing Ichha for not fighting for her love in past but now hv problem whn she is standing for her love. if Ichha wd hv been strong Tapu Bitiya wd hv been chakki pissing in the jail instead of watching film in B house and enjoying Mai services. so people like to criticise as per their convenience.😆😆😆

yaar these ppl were expecting ki iccha will do sacrifice yet again.
pregnancy ka naam sunke turant iccha veer ko chod degi.
abh toh popat ho gaya.😆😆
to iccha ke character pe sawaal chalu kar diya.
Edited by intruderfast - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: intruderfast

yaar these ppl were expecting ki iccha will do sacrifice yet again.
pregnancy ka naam sunke turant iccha veer ko chod degi.
abh toh popat ho gaya.😆😆
to iccha ke character pe sawaal chalu kar diya.




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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijayam

Hmmm..interesting topic....Veer was Iccha's first love but she never realized it then how deeply she loved him infact she was too scared to acknowledge her true feelings for Veer, but after Veer-Tapasya marriage she moved on with her life....she was unfair to Veer, yes but she did it for everyone's happiness and to maintain peace in Jogi's family...

She was with Vansh for a very brief time, she took care of him like a friend, sometimes a mother, but..between them they cud never establish a healthy loving bond.....she never loved him..never cud say 'I love You' to Vansh...
When she blamed Veer for Vansh's death...I think subconsiously she was again in denial regarding her true feelings for Veer, the passionate, romantic love she felt for him.......this happens when one is in denial, you start hurting the person you love the most...
So when Veer came to her....this time she cudnt deny him as she was now completely aware of her feelings towards him....😊......and internally she knew that somewhere Vansh wud be happy with her decision.



I find many of your statements very pertinent. 👍🏼However I have a slightly different perspective on some of the ideas.

1. Ichcha did love Veer but at the beginning with Tapasya threatening suicide, I think Ichcha's sense of duty, her promise to her mother got the better of her judgment and so she handed Veer to T on a silver platter.

2. Having done that she remained true to her resolve of supporting Tapasya - come what may - in making her marriage to Veer a success. Ichcha had been brought up with a huge sense of duty and it was that duty that did not allow her to accept Veer's declarations of love once he became Tapasya's husband. Right or wrong that is what Ichcha's character has been portrayed as.

3.Her marriage to Vansh was orchestrated by many people but in the end it was Ichcha's decision and she stuck to it with the same resolve as she had keeping Veer away from her. I think she did care for Vansh (not the way she loved Veer maybe). Her mixed feelings for Veer did not want to acknowledge that anything was wrong with Vansh and that Veer could be right. Even Ichcha (hopefully) could not be that blind not to notice that something was wrong with Vansh. Maybe if Vansh had lived and been normal things would have been different..............😍

4. Her blaming Veer was a spontaneous reaction to what she remembered and the actual scenario that she saw when she arrived at the suicide spot. At that point I don't think any feelings for Veer came into it, -----------my feeling was that it was just a gut reaction.

5. I think when her feelings for Veer started surfacing she first behaved badly with him till she realized what she was denying herself. I think the dream of Vansh is only symbolic.........it was just to show that Ichcha herself had come to terms with the fact that it was time to move on.

Right or wrong this would be my perspective. What do you think Vijayam???😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: groucho


You have analyzed it so well groucho...😊...on point 3, I do so so agree her feelings for Veer didnt want to acknowledge that vansh was not completely alright...how very true..she wanted badly this marriage to work...
in fact her mixed feelings for Veer have caused a lot of heartburn for everyone who matters in uttaran.....and confusion & guilt arising out of it in her mind kept mounting..they showed a bit of it when Veer-taps left the house and iccha goes to clean their room & then remembers Veer...and veer kept calling and meeting her on vansh's health....
well...I think I'm going too deep...but I do feel that her strongly blaming Veer for vansh's death was a lot to do with these confused feelings in her mind and definitely the circumstantial things added to it...as she didnt react with the same force when taps got exposed...

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijayam



I am a great believer of happy endings.....that is the romantic side of me ...BUT it really annoys me when Ichcha who has first hand knowledge of all the terrible things that Tapasya did to her and still she keeps silent, or cries or looks sadly but NEVER retaliates enough. This is why the character of Tapasya always gets away with whatever she does.

There is no doubt that Tapasya's role is the dominant one in this serial but honestly how can an actress keep on agreeing to be meek and mild all the time. I wish Tina would take a firm stand and demand a stronger role.

The CV's just do not have it in them to produce a good storyline for 2 strong women fighting it out ---not literally of course.😉

I really believe it would be so much more interesting to see both the women T AND I take each other on..................unfortunately I know that that is never going to happen as this is a typical ordinary serial of good vs bad, strong vs weak, hatred vs love and it goes on and on.

Edited by groucho - 14 years ago

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: groucho

wow, aditiji, its nice 2 seeu back with ur intelligent views.
and u r right, taps has been the dominant force until now. but this new year we r getting a good gift finally- a new and stronger iccha is in the process, i am sure😃

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