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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tvfreaq



@Groucho


You do have a point... but considering the fact that tappu knew that vansh had a history of drug abuse, dint she sort of use his unstable mentality to push him off the edge... the video footage showed that tappu clearly instigated the guy, a good lawyer could have also gotten her behind the bars using that as an evidence and the fact that she already had a case pending against her (ichcha murder) it would have given the evidence more leverage. and she SO deserves it...and may be she would still get off the Vansh case..attempt of murder is no less...if sid gets jail, she is equally at fault ( if not more) and deserves to be behind bars...

and that cannot be over looked..alas the CV's, they can...



What you say is definitely a point to consider. But look how the CV's have taken us round the bend.

Sid's involvement only came out after Vansh's suicide.

Of course, Tappu used Vansh's addiction to make him ever more unstable but in that particular scene she only said that ' If she was guilty and then so was he' not to believe Ichcha and if she needed punishment so did he. One thing Tappu has always known about Ichcha is that she is an honest person incapable of any kind of cruelty or deceit which unfortunately poor Vansh never had a chance to find out thanks to Nani and Tappu.

For those of us watching we can find so many things that Tappu did that was wrong and hurtful but they are not punishable by law. Other than Ichcha's attempted murder ( which everyone has conveniently forgotten for the time being at least), everything she has done is an internal family matter.

At least this is what it seems like to me. I appreciate any other opinions that you may have.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: shyams

Well if Sid were to given a statement mentioning Tapu wanted to kill Vansh which along with d video and an acknowledgment from Tapu in d video that she wanted to make Ichcha's life hell and she hates Ichcha can be taken as reasons enough by court to decide that Tapu wanted to kill Vansh to take revenge from Ichcha
Remember court will also take into account that Vansh's suicide abatement wasn't d first time Tapu did a crime but she has a history of it like murder attempt to murder on ichcha, theft at Jogi's house and Bundela's house



Sid cannot say that because that is not true. Tappu never wanted to kill Vansh, she just did not want to see him happy with Ichcha because she herself was not happy. So everything negative that she did was to ensure Vansh would never be happy.

Tappu never knew that Vansh would be at that place, she was only meeting Sid there. I think Vansh's death was a huge error of judgment from Tappu.

Mind you, driving a person over the edge may not be punishable by law, but it certainly is punishable by the people who loved Vansh.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: groucho



I wouldn't call them blind or haters they are just fans of Vansh and Ichcha and their's is the normal response. Besides I have just put what in reality might be the logic in my opinion

You and I both know that in this serial there is no logic since it is fictional so our only way to go is to give one's own point of view in favour of whoever appeals to us most.

You have your POV and I can appreciate that since you are studying law, you would be more inclined to use examples to prove that point, whereas the others are reacting with their heart.

No one is wrong here (other than the CV's) it is just the way it is. Nothing personal.



no😆 basically every tapu hater seems hell bent on ignoring the legal principles and just seem adamant on proving themselves right. If I explained from a judge and jury's POV then its easy!

For example...first the mens rea principle is not there which means INTENTION! A guilty mind! When Tapu HAD no intention to cause harm and she didnt even KNOW Vansh was suicidal (this can be proven all via Veer, ichha and Bundelas statements that on the previous two occasions vansh had attempted suicide Tapu was neither there nor heard about it. Also the 25th may epi stated clearly Tapu had no idea Vansh was suicidal when she told Veer and ichha tht vansh does not have the guts to do anything to himself! Second was that the gun was POINTED at tapu's head which means she can easily be acquited via the self defence principle. Third...Vansh being a drug addict not even completed rehab the court and judge would be smart enough to know that addicts are prone to such things and any psychiatrist can be called to give evidence on this! Thats why I said I would take this case! I would win and I would be on the side of the truth also!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: groucho



Sid cannot say that because that is not true. Tappu never wanted to kill Vansh, she just did not want to see him happy with Ichcha because she herself was not happy. So everything negative that she did was to ensure Vansh would never be happy.

Tappu never knew that Vansh would be at that place, she was only meeting Sid there. I think Vansh's death was a huge error of judgment from Tappu.

Mind you, driving a person over the edge may not be punishable by law, but it certainly is punishable by the people who loved Vansh.



Yes I know Sid didn't know it but I'm just saying if Sid were to take revenge on Tapu for spoiling his life this was it can be proved in court that Tapu indeed wanted to kill. But I think it doesn't matter as long as Veer and others who loved Vansh know what Tapu did 2 Vansh right from his marriage to Ichcha was sinful.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ SRKLuvr

I would not need to do all that ,dear. The CV's have already given us their judgement without a trial.

The judgement is :- Sweep it under the rug and move on to another storyline.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: groucho



Sid cannot say that because that is not true. Tappu never wanted to kill Vansh, she just did not want to see him happy with Ichcha because she herself was not happy. So everything negative that she did was to ensure Vansh would never be happy.

Tappu never knew that Vansh would be at that place, she was only meeting Sid there. I think Vansh's death was a huge error of judgment from Tappu.

Mind you, driving a person over the edge may not be punishable by law, but it certainly is punishable by the people who loved Vansh.



Wah Shyamji wah! Now u will support jhoot also? tch! and u say WE are lie supporters🤣 Aditi ji thanks for being sensible. My take on Vansh's suicide is that Tapu tried to worm her way out of vansh's gun and also thought by making him feel guilty he wouldnt reveal the truth to Veer. She said her normal bitter things in anger...she said a whole lot worse to Veer in 16th December epi. She is like that when she is insulted she gets angry and speaks rubbish. But thsi time she didnt think! She didnt think who she was talking to that Vansh may do something. But since she didnt realise he was suicidal I cant say anything except that she should have been sensible...but then she never acts rationally either. She had absolutely no reason to believe he would kill himself and I believe her look of utter shock when he did said it all!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: shyams



Yes I know Sid didn't know it but I'm just saying if Sid were to take revenge on Tapu for spoiling his life this was it can be proved in court that Tapu indeed wanted to kill. But I think it doesn't matter as long as Veer and others who loved Vansh know what Tapu did 2 Vansh right from his marriage to Ichcha was sinful.



Yes Sid could do that for sure. But where is dear old Sid is my question. Conveniently his case is not being shown either.

As you say Veer and the others know the truth now and that was shown on Veer's face yesterday when he looked at Tapasya and remembered Vansh. Superb acting by Veer. I have always found him a good actor but yesterday he was very good.👍🏼
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr



Wah Shyamji wah! Now u will support jhoot also? tch! and u say WE are lie supporters🤣 Aditi ji thanks for being sensible. My take on Vansh's suicide is that Tapu tried to worm her way out of vansh's gun and also thought by making him feel guilty he wouldnt reveal the truth to Veer. She said her normal bitter things in anger...she said a whole lot worse to Veer in 16th December epi. She is like that when she is insulted she gets angry and speaks rubbish. But thsi time she didnt think! She didnt think who she was talking to that Vansh may do something. But since she didnt realise he was suicidal I cant say anything except that she should have been sensible...but then she never acts rationally either. She had absolutely no reason to believe he would kill himself and I believe her look of utter shock when he did said it all!



I knew it was coming from u ji 😆😆😆
I'm just saying if Sid were to take revenge with Tapu for spoiling his life and I didn't say it will be correct on Sid's part but it can prove in court that Tapu is guilty. This was just a reply 2 u as u said there is no way Tapu can be proved guild for Vansh's suicide abatement 😆

Vaise it doesn't matter 2 me if Tapu is in Jail or not now as I just wanted sachayi ki jeet in d form of Veer-Ichcha marriage which has happened
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i think tappu achieved a post of DON jise 11 mulkon ki police dhund rahi hai but pakad nai pa rahi.
she is a royal criminal😆😆😆😆😆 uske gambling k adde mein se jo maal aata hai uska 25% hafta to police ko jaata hai toh who will arrest her??
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Posted: 14 years ago
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But I dont get it...does Veer think Tapu INTENTIONALLY killed Vansh? Did Veer ever wonder where that gun came from? Didnt he use his sense that if Vansh had the gun then obviously he was intending to kill someone? Why put all the blame on Tapu? I agree she was silly she was stupid and she was not sensible and spoke rubbish but really...why exaggerate the truth?

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