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Posted: 7 years ago
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Divya From which scene in the baby 2 track did your connection with suraj start?
Rahe pyaar ki track..The way he handled her even when she was insulting him infront of everyone..Atleast tried to tell the truth to Chakor..Expressed his love all the way..He cared, protected and never left her hand..

Divya i didnt understand what you mean by burning ashes of ex flame??

Also when you mean surajs karma, do you mean in terms of what he did to chakor or he refusing to accept imli at this first stage

Both..😊

suraj being an introvert didn't want to share his feeling for chakor openly at that stage.

It wasn't about his feelings for Chakor, it was about his own happiness..Whether he is happy in the present because of the past bride swap..IMO
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Posted: 7 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: ndivyateja

Divya From which scene in the baby 2 track did your connection with suraj start?

Rahe pyaar ki track..The way he handled her even when she was insulting him infront of everyone..Atleast tried to tell the truth to Chakor..Expressed his love all the way..He cared, protected and never left her hand..

Divya i didnt understand what you mean by burning ashes of ex flame??

Also when you mean surajs karma, do you mean in terms of what he did to chakor or he refusing to accept imli at this first stage

Both..😊

suraj being an introvert didn't want to share his feeling for chakor openly at that stage.

It wasn't about his feelings for Chakor, it was about his own happiness..Whether he is happy in the present because of the past bride swap..IMO


Divya the raahi pyar ki phase was beautiful and like sukor, so out of the box. Never seen such scenes in my history of watching indian tv
Another phase which connected me to suraj was the way he reacted to the whole ajay thing. I would have never accepted the sukor pair ever if he would have at that point let chakor go. He ensured she remained his and his jealously and possessivness conveyed so much. I remember the scene when he landed up at her house and said to her that he will not let anyone come close to her , she wil remain only his jungli billi. I was literally blown off. Yes we do have our own pov about why suraj lied about the baby but its unquestionable that he loved chakor and only chakor. If he would have lied for imli then he would have been behind her because she was in a bad state but he did it for chakor so was behind her even after the divorce. Thats the way i look at it

Yes karma wise you are right and i wont deny he obviously wanted to erase his guilt to some extent as well. Obviously chakor was the driving force which helped him become a good person. Imo only a good person will feel guilty.

I will wait for rabias response on the chakor bit and then give my pov.

Edited by Ruby7 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#33
Ruby,I will reply to your query patiently tomorrow,for the time being read this one
A link to one of my previous posts,explaining Suraj's state of mind😊




https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/142282576
Edited by Eatifi - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Eatifi

Ruby,I will reply to your query patiently tomorrow,for the time being read this one
A link to one of my previous posts,explaining Suraj's state of mind😊




https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/142282576


Thanks so much rabia

Wil surely go through and leave my comments here

I look forward to your response tomorrow
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Posted: 7 years ago
#35
Ruby,now that things have been changed and the track has progressed so much,I would like to give my answer in comparison🤓
THEN[during the car scene]-Suraj was just freed from being a bandhua,he was living a life of a kind of beggar,his life was heading nowhere,he was'nt sure as to how his life is going to be shaped up,he had within himself emotions withheld from his past,there was only one thing that Suraj was sure of at that moment,that HE LOVES CHAKOR,that he had freshly admitted,and not to forget he was and still AN EMOTIONAL INTROVERT,he never knew that Chakor feels for him,according to him it was one-sided,as Chakor's closeness towards him was out of her humanity,as he felt.Suraj considered himself not to be of her worth.


NOW-the dark phase of his life has passed,he know it that Chakor loves him,and he knows it and has proved tat he only loves Chakor.
they have come to a stage where Chakor is expecting his child,all they both are yearning is for a blissful marital life together
Nothing in this world,be it business,money,work,power mattere for Suraj other than loving or being with Chakor.



So during his Car convo with Imli-when Suraj said that "Imli is more mature than Chakor",this is my take-
when someone loves a person,it does'nt means that every quality is needed to be appreciated,that too in the fist stage.
Suraj had been hungry for power,that used to be his ambition,for he considered himself to be weak,as he was out of any authority or power.And its fact,that Chakor never paid any heed to the importance of power,her virtues and principles were always right,but that does'nt meant that Suraj's principles and pov regarding power were wrong.NOT TO FORGET,HE WANTED POWER ONLY TO FULFILL CHAKOR DREAMS OF A FREE AZADGUNJ.
And regarding Imli,they both have grown up together,thats why shared the same opinion regarding power,and Imli indeed understood the thing and importance about POWER,so he acknowledge it,comapring it with Chakor,coz generally people do compare two siblings.
IMO,Suraj in no way,made Chakor to look inferior to Imli in terms of maturity.
And not to forget,eve if Suraj does acknowlegdes Chakor's jagat maata attitude,he always calls her to be "sar-phiri,paagal" ladki,coz she always risks herself for others.


Suraj to be on that night,seemed to be very much lost in his ow world,that day.


About the fact that he did'nt mentioned that the bridal swap happened for good,for him,.
I think that he would have never appreciated it,until and unless,he was sure that Chakor is happy with it,coz it was he who had done that,flipping three lives upside down,how could he had appreciated the swap,wehn he was unsure of Chakor's happiness with it.



lastly,about Suraj's lie to Chakor about being the father of Imli's child-
I strongly feel,that at that particular moment,when imli was taken into the asylum,Suraj made the announcement just for the sake of Chakor[remeber the lucknow hotel scene between Sukor],but later on,his own guilt had did come up.
[rest everything,I had mentioned in the post of which I gave you the link]🤓



So,I hope I made myself clear to you about the horrid car scene.
anymore,discussions or queries, I am ready😊
Edited by Eatifi - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#36
The only thing I hate about that incident was, it changed the entire shape and structure of the forum..There were some amazing writers, beautiful views..everything was turned upside down because of that one particular incident..However we got another set of people connecting more to Suraj, joining the forum with lovely POVs..Ruby, you were one of them..I enjoy reading your posts..😃 But somewhere I still believe therez no point in discussing about the past scenarios..Coz right now we might have a changed POV, once horrid may not be bothering us now..In short it may not be the exact feel we will be writing..Also forum turns into Suraj Vs Chakor instead of SuKor..Let's enjoy things coming our way now..😃 IMO

Rabia, as always you understand Suraj way too much 👍🏼
Edited by ndivyateja - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: ndivyateja

The only thing I hate about that incident was, it changed the entire shape and structure of the forum..There were some amazing writers, beautiful views..everything was turned upside down because of that one particular incident..However we got another set of people connecting more to Suraj, joining the forum with lovely POVs..Ruby, you were one of them..I enjoy reading your posts..😃 But somewhere I still believe therez no point in discussing about the past scenarios..Coz right now we might have a changed POV, once horrid may not be bothering us now..In short it may not be the exact feel we will be writing..Also forum turns into Suraj Vs Chakor instead of SuKor..Let's enjoy things coming our way now..😃 IMO

Rabia, as always you understand Suraj way too much 👍🏼



@bold
This is what bothers me sometimes
The Udaan forum used to be a much happier and friendly place,but that incident changed everything.The forum indeed lost some lovely people
Anyways,everyone is very much entitled to have their opinions amd preferences,people come and go only THE SHOW MUST GO ON.😊

@bold red
Thanks Divya😃
You know Maithili calls me "Suraj's lawyer"😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
#38
Divya thankyou for your valuable contribution and i respect your views. I am blessed that i found the forum. I understand and connect with suraj so much more now and i hope the connect lasts forever
I understand about old members leaving but i have seen alot of that happen in many places. People come and go and like rabia says the show must go on. Divya i do apologise if my bringing up old topics is bothering you, its just that they is do much inside me which i need to share and i wanted to fill any gaps in my way of looking at suraj. Afterall i was not a suraj fan nor connected with him before baby 2 track. This sharing of povs is building my connection with him further
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Eatifi

Ruby,now that things have been changed and the track has progressed so much,I would like to give my answer in comparison🤓

THEN[during the car scene]-Suraj was just freed from being a bandhua,he was living a life of a kind of beggar,his life was heading nowhere,he was'nt sure as to how his life is going to be shaped up,he had within himself emotions withheld from his past,there was only one thing that Suraj was sure of at that moment,that HE LOVES CHAKOR,that he had freshly admitted,and not to forget he was and still AN EMOTIONAL INTROVERT,he never knew that Chakor feels for him,according to him it was one-sided,as Chakor's closeness towards him was out of her humanity,as he felt.Suraj considered himself not to be of her worth.


NOW-the dark phase of his life has passed,he know it that Chakor loves him,and he knows it and has proved tat he only loves Chakor.
they have come to a stage where Chakor is expecting his child,all they both are yearning is for a blissful marital life together
Nothing in this world,be it business,money,work,power mattere for Suraj other than loving or being with Chakor.



So during his Car convo with Imli-when Suraj said that "Imli is more mature than Chakor",this is my take-
when someone loves a person,it does'nt means that every quality is needed to be appreciated,that too in the fist stage.
Suraj had been hungry for power,that used to be his ambition,for he considered himself to be weak,as he was out of any authority or power.And its fact,that Chakor never paid any heed to the importance of power,her virtues and principles were always right,but that does'nt meant that Suraj's principles and pov regarding power were wrong.NOT TO FORGET,HE WANTED POWER ONLY TO FULFILL CHAKOR DREAMS OF A FREE AZADGUNJ.
And regarding Imli,they both have grown up together,thats why shared the same opinion regarding power,and Imli indeed understood the thing and importance about POWER,so he acknowledge it,comapring it with Chakor,coz generally people do compare two siblings.
IMO,Suraj in no way,made Chakor to look inferior to Imli in terms of maturity.
And not to forget,eve if Suraj does acknowlegdes Chakor's jagat maata attitude,he always calls her to be "sar-phiri,paagal" ladki,coz she always risks herself for others.


Suraj to be on that night,seemed to be very much lost in his ow world,that day.


About the fact that he did'nt mentioned that the bridal swap happened for good,for him,.
I think that he would have never appreciated it,until and unless,he was sure that Chakor is happy with it,coz it was he who had done that,flipping three lives upside down,how could he had appreciated the swap,wehn he was unsure of Chakor's happiness with it.



lastly,about Suraj's lie to Chakor about being the father of Imli's child-
I strongly feel,that at that particular moment,when imli was taken into the asylum,Suraj made the announcement just for the sake of Chakor[remeber the lucknow hotel scene between Sukor],but later on,his own guilt had did come up.
[rest everything,I had mentioned in the post of which I gave you the link]🤓



So,I hope I made myself clear to you about the horrid car scene.
anymore,discussions or queries, I am ready😊


Rabia thanks so much for sharing your views. You have managed to fill the gaps i had in my heart and mind for suraj. Now my connection with suraj is complete.

Like i said i was not a suraj or sukor fan when the car scene happened. I was a chakor fan and did believe sukor were different and they had chemistry. The car to me looked like a normal scene and i never really got any negative or uncomfortable vibes from it, apart from the sleeping position. But you and divya have explained to me about that and i buy the way you both look at it.

You have explained beautifully as to why suraj never mentioned the bride swap and chakor. I agree with you and i want to add my view too.
I have always believed that the bride swap was a disrespectful thing for suraj to do. I was disgusted watching the entire sequence. Even though imvaan from the cvs pov moved on and were happy, we couldnt say the same for sukor. Their journey was different and they had a lot of baggage which had to be cleared. Remember before the camp wedding suraj in the tent had said to chakor that the bride swap was not a marriage in the real sense and it was a punishment he gave her. If he would have shown his happiness and contentness about the bride swap in the car that night and without knowing about chakors feelings verbally, he would be in a way praising the punishment he gave her and that would have been further disrespectful to her. He would have been wrong imo at that stage to say about that
. I felt he was reluctant to say anything about his and chakor relationship.

I read a tweet at that time about suraj doing emotional cheating in the car. I still dont understand the meaning of that. Do you?

Thanks for sharing the link. Another beautiful post
I second all what you said about suraj and guilt. No matter how much i hate imli today but i will never deny that suraj was unfair to her and did injustice to her. I still remember how he had called the baby haram ki aulaad in front of chakor in one scene. I am sure suraj regretted every bit of it.
Which lucknow hotel room scene are you referring too?


Edited by Ruby7 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ruby7


Rabia thanks so much for sharing your views. You have managed to fill the gaps i had in my heart and mind for suraj. Now my connection with suraj is complete.


I am glad that my views helped you😃

Like i said i was not a suraj or sukor fan when the car scene happened. I was a chakor fan and did believe sukor were different and they had chemistry. The car to me looked like a normal scene and i never really got any negative or uncomfortable vibes from it, apart from the sleeping position. But you and divya have explained to me about that and i buy the way you both look at it.

You have explained beautifully as to why suraj never mentioned the bride swap and chakor. I agree with you and i want to add my view too.
I have always believed that the bride swap was a disrespectful thing for suraj to do. I was disgusted watching the entire sequence. Even though imvaan from the cvs pov moved on and were happy, we couldnt say the same for sukor. Their journey was different and they had a lot of baggage which had to be cleared. Remember before the camp wedding suraj in the tent had said to chakor that the bride swap was not a marriage in the real sense and it was a punishment he gave her. If he would have shown his happiness and contentness about the bride swap in the car that night and without knowing about chakors feelings verbally, he would be in a way praising the punishment he gave her and that would have been further disrespectful to her. He would have been wrong imo at that stage to say about that
. I felt he was reluctant to say anything about his and chakor relationship.


See you explained it even more clearly.
Suraj never appreciated his act of bridal swap,even recently when Sukor marriage talks were on,and they both were eating mangoes in Chakor's house,Suraj told Chakor not use ghunghat while it was Chakor who said that it was coz of only the ghunghat that they both were married
For Suraj it was all about heart consent,their first public marriage,was'nt real according to him,so he hesitated to even hug her after proposing.
While their private camp wedding held such significance for him,that he went with a second level of it.

I read a tweet at that time about suraj doing emotional cheating in the car. I still dont understand the meaning of that. Do you?

No I don't
Suraj can cheat himself,but never Chakor,be it emotionally or in any other manner

Thanks for sharing the link. Another beautiful post
I second all what you said about suraj and guilt. No matter how much i hate imli today but i will never deny that suraj was unfair to her and did injustice to her. I still remember how he had called the baby haram ki aulaad in front of chakor in one scene. I am sure suraj regretted every bit of it.
Thanks for it,that you liked it
But my mind was super depressed when I had originally posted it
Which lucknow hotel room scene are you referring too?

Its the episode of 3rd May,2017 watch the SuKor scene,you will understand


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