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Sumo23 thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: -K.Kapoor-

Bold - You may be right, it is a possibility; I actually never thought of him having an inferiority complex! But this should've been specified via a monologue or something, the CV's have made it a habit to keep things vague😡!


Prior to Friday's episode even I never thought of Suraj having any inferiority complex. His dialogues to Chakor that she is very good and get anyone, but where will he get his Chakor, made me feel so.
Cvs are too occupied with Imli devi. For them rest all characters appear to be an after-thought.
And with Suraj, they seem to have abandoned his character, everything is left open to interpretation. It's for viewers to figure out if he has an inferiority complex, if he had any feelings for Chakor even when they were 'enemies', he had mentioned to intoxicated Chakor that Imli was of Chakor, why was Imli jealous, if he ever loved Imli; if yes then how different is his love for Chakor now, if Imli's 1st bachuva was his and maybe many more.
Hope they provide a closure to his past at least by the end of this track. They have ruined his character to a great extent with the car scene and the lie. Really don't get the purpose of this track though.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Sumo..
🤗.

that's a wonderfully analyzed write up. and delightful perception.
pleasure reading your thoughts.

i totally agree with the inferiority complex part. i for one love vulnerable heroes. my only grouse is.. as K.Kapoor mentioned.. cvs keeping Suraj's POV vague.

Cvs are the ones who created Chakor too. and she is SO crystal clear in her thoughts, actions and words. She LOVES Suraj. what she felt for Vivaan doesn't even come closer to the vicinity of what she feels for Suraj. Suraj for her is above and beyond all. Full Stop.
as clear as been written on a hard rock in bold capital letters in sparkling neon colours.

and then we have Suraj.

there is Suraj who vehemently denies ever loving Imli and then there is Suraj making complete and utter psychotic nuisance of himself over her.

there is a Suraj who says with heartbreaking vulnerability.. kya hum sach mein alag hojayenge? to Chakor.
and then there is Suraj who takes Chakor for granted and acts like a brat.

there is Suraj who roars... Koi Chakor ko haath nahi lagaye. will make you pay Sood Samet for hurting this girl.. and then there is Suraj who doesn't even try to walk the talk.

there is Suraj who runs on bleeding feet to rescue Chakor during Delhi stint and then there is Suraj who sleeps peacefully in the arms of his ex no nevermind Chakor who is all alone and Villains are loose.

there is Suraj who KNOWS how insecure Chakor is when it comes to Imli and then there is Suraj who not only allows Imli to crawl all over him but gamely joins in.

there is Suraj who was blessed with Killer instincts and one who made things happen.
and then there is Suraj who is ... just there.

i get him feeling vulnerable, having low sense of self esteem, feeling that he doesn't deserve Chakor but i don't get him being SO for the lack of better word i will say... Lethargic... about everything. be it love, vengeance and life.

i simply do not get him.

we have been running in circles since time immemorial when it comes to Suraj.
He is father of Imli's bachau. No! he is not.
He loves Imli. No! he doesn't.
He loves Chakor. oh! does he?
He will start trouncing his nemesis. err! when?

if three quarters of our time is spent in finding reasons, justifications, excuses for the actions (or lack of it) of the character and rest of the quarter in making sense of the story.. how are we to enjoy the story and love the character?

you know lot many times i think it would have been kinder to let Suraj remain a villain. be it character, attitude, dialogues, costume and hairstyle and all.. he was at his bloody best there.

and now we have this Suraj.

as if Cvs have no idea what to do with him.

i feel when Cvs created him and chose VJ they had no clear cut idea.
should Suraj turn into a hero and the story will proceed as per their famous swap and love story mantra.
or Should he remain a villain and Chakor sends him to jail or worse and they will go on with their 'social cause' plot.

and hence kept pushing it. be it abusing Chakor, blackmailing, living off her, going as far as near rape. but still people kept rooting for Suraj and Cvs decided to go with the former plot for SuKor was selling like nothing else.

reminds me of Sir. Author Conan Doyle and his creation Sherlock Holmes. when the creation became bigger than the creator he couldn't handle it and hence killed the creation off. but the furor over it was so furious he had to bring back Sherlock in next sequel.

Cvs are facing the same predicament.
their creation has turned more spectacular, more beautiful and more successful than they ever imagined.
and hence they have no idea what to do with him. and are winging it.

it is left to us and our interpretations and imaginations to understand what Suraj is. his thoughts. his actions. his love.
him.

dear Cvs... your creation is here to stay. we haven't given up on him. yet. you still have time to understand him and resurrect him. albeit limited but you still have time.
make it count.


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Posted: 8 years ago
there are four major players in this story and all are consistent in their characterization.

Chakor - consistently Jagatmata.
Vivaan - consistently being an idiot.
Imli - consistently being utter selfish delusional diva.

and then we have Suraj.
consistently confused and confusing.

i don't know what to make of him anymore. i just hope atleast now Cvs have reached to a conclusion about Suraj the character and will proceed accordingly. lord knows! our guy needs resurrection. not today, not tomorrow... but day before yesterday.





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Posted: 8 years ago
dreams and wishes:

next time anyone says ... oh you love Imli i wish Suraj would roar:
She is my past. what i felt for her doesn't even touch the furthest point of the vicinity of what i feel for Chakor. so everybody zip the hell up.

(especially right on the face of precious Imli.)

Let Imli and Vivaan deal with their own issues. bring Chagan there as support system for Imli but kindly keep SuKor off. i am having this horrid feeling of Suraj having to make an honest woman out of Imli again. do NOT even go there Cvs. Eff the jagatmata attitude of Chakor.. Suraj will be FINISHED if he so much as agrees to this disgusting plot twist.
NO! NO! and NO!

kaha mar gaya mera Dubai Sheikh?
bring him in. a hero of the story is as good as the villain.
Every Ram needs a Ravan.
Ragini, Vivaan and co are jokes of villains.
For Suraj to become a hero bring in a kick ass villain.

and yes ... while you are at it.. kindly burn the costumes of Chakor and Suraj. those tents and hideous jackets. i am not shallow but i am kinda allergic to the idea of my favourites being deliberately made to look like errr whatever they are looking like. and please... give us back our old Suraj with his old attitude and new heart.. (and old hairstyle😳).



Sumo23 thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

Sumo..
🤗.

that's a wonderfully analyzed write up. and delightful perception.
pleasure reading your thoughts.

i totally agree with the inferiority complex part. i for one love vulnerable heroes. my only grouse is.. as K.Kapoor mentioned.. cvs keeping Suraj's POV vague.

Cvs are the ones who created Chakor too. and she is SO crystal clear in her thoughts, actions and words. She LOVES Suraj. what she felt for Vivaan doesn't even come closer to the vicinity of what she feels for Suraj. Suraj for her is above and beyond all. Full Stop.
as clear as been written on a hard rock in bold capital letters in sparkling neon colours.

and then we have Suraj.

there is Suraj who vehemently denies ever loving Imli and then there is Suraj making complete and utter psychotic nuisance of himself over her.

there is a Suraj who says with heartbreaking vulnerability.. kya hum sach mein alag hojayenge? to Chakor.
and then there is Suraj who takes Chakor for granted and acts like a brat.

there is Suraj who roars... Koi Chakor ko haath nahi lagaye. will make you pay Sood Samet for hurting this girl.. and then there is Suraj who doesn't even try to walk the talk.

there is Suraj who runs on bleeding feet to rescue Chakor during Delhi stint and then there is Suraj who sleeps peacefully in the arms of his ex no nevermind Chakor who is all alone and Villains are loose.

there is Suraj who KNOWS how insecure Chakor is when it comes to Imli and then there is Suraj who not only allows Imli to crawl all over him but gamely joins in.

there is Suraj who was blessed with Killer instincts and one who made things happen.
and then there is Suraj who is ... just there.

i get him feeling vulnerable, having low sense of self esteem, feeling that he doesn't deserve Chakor but i don't get him being SO for the lack of better word i will say... Lethargic... about everything. be it love, vengeance and life.

i simply do not get him.

we have been running in circles since time immemorial when it comes to Suraj.
He is father of Imli's bachau. No! he is not.
He loves Imli. No! he doesn't.
He loves Chakor. oh! does he?
He will start trouncing his nemesis. err! when?

if three quarters of our time is spent in finding reasons, justifications, excuses for the actions (or lack of it) of the character and rest of the quarter in making sense of the story.. how are we to enjoy the story and love the character?

you know lot many times i think it would have been kinder to let Suraj remain a villain. be it character, attitude, dialogues, costume and hairstyle and all.. he was at his bloody best there.

and now we have this Suraj.

as if Cvs have no idea what to do with him.

i feel when Cvs created him and chose VJ they had no clear cut idea.
should Suraj turn into a hero and the story will proceed as per their famous swap and love story mantra.
or Should he remain a villain and Chakor sends him to jail or worse and they will go on with their 'social cause' plot.

and hence kept pushing it. be it abusing Chakor, blackmailing, living off her, going as far as near rape. but still people kept rooting for Suraj and Cvs decided to go with the former plot for SuKor was selling like nothing else.

reminds me of Sir. Author Conan Doyle and his creation Sherlock Holmes. when the creation became bigger than the creator he couldn't handle it and hence killed the creation off. but the furor over it was so furious he had to bring back Sherlock in next sequel.

Cvs are facing the same predicament.
their creation has turned more spectacular, more beautiful and more successful than they ever imagined.
and hence they have no idea what to do with him. and are winging it.

it is left to us and our interpretations and imaginations to understand what Suraj is. his thoughts. his actions. his love.
him.

dear Cvs... your creation is here to stay. we haven't given up on him. yet. you still have time to understand him and resurrect him. albeit limited but you still have time.
make it count.



@Nimmi I ❤️ reading all your posts. You have a way with words.
You have said it all. Nothing more to add..
Hope the cvs are listening...

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

<font size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">dreams and wishes:

next time anyone says ... oh you love Imli i wish Suraj would roar:
She is my past. what i felt for her doesn't even touch the furthest point of the vicinity of what i feel for Chakor. so everybody zip the hell up.

(especially right on the face of precious Imli.)

Let Imli and Vivaan deal with their own issues. bring Chagan there as support system for Imli but kindly keep SuKor off. i am having this horrid feeling of Suraj having to make an honest woman out of Imli again. do NOT even go there Cvs. Eff the jagatmata attitude of Chakor.. Suraj will be FINISHED if he so much as agrees to this disgusting plot twist.
NO! NO! and NO!

kaha mar gaya mera Dubai Sheikh?
bring him in. a hero of the story is as good as the villain.
Every Ram needs a Ravan.
Ragini, Vivaan and co are jokes of villains.
For Suraj to become a hero bring in a kick ass villain.

and yes ... while you are at it.. kindly burn the costumes of Chakor and Suraj. those tents and hideous jackets. i am not shallow but i am kinda allergic to the idea of my favourites being deliberately made to look like errr whatever they are looking like. and please... give us back our old Suraj with his old attitude and new heart.. (and old hairstyle😳).



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kaash CVs have half the imagination you have . But chalo koi nai .

Regarding the costumes I sometimes feel like may be Meera s nit that fit compared to vidhinand that s the reason y her dress is tent as she won't look good n saree but wat abt VJ . ybCVs are killingbhis look ( n a very bad way ) I don't understand . And vj also became slim
In chakor fst drunk scenes he was wearing short white kurta but he looked more dashing. Ab he looked leaner n this kurta . May be in future we will get h wearing shirts ( not checked or with flowers lol ) but plain gentleman shirts wen he start working or something .

Right now his character s sooo ( thumps down ) he s a band huva nonpower no money no stable job so may be costume team are confused Bhai aise log kankya kapde dega. As per his status now he shud be wearing wat chagan etc are wearing but since he s the ml they can't do that isley laya hai voh coat
They might be thinking something s better than nothing lol .
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Posted: 8 years ago
But yeah if he remain silent for the entire week whenever someone accuse him of still in love with imli then suraj toh gaya .

Starting mei he will be also feeling hurt that still ppl think this low of him . And this will never change ---+ to which chakor can make him understand that log kya sochege that s nit important and also ppl change their side frequently . This bastinppl and bhuka blamed chakor . They can blame anyone .


He can feel more guilt of what happened and if he regret that night then it wud be a bonus .


Hope atleast towards the end we get suraj ka anger ( like the gime he saved chakor from kn Ragini and goons ) and make t clear to all these fools that he a now chakors and chakors only . There was s and will no other woman n his life
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Posted: 8 years ago
well according to the recent olv, chakor also gets doubt abt imli and suraj...so no idea whats 😕gonna happen next...

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Posted: 8 years ago
@ Nimmi :
I have read your posts which are always a delight to read and I have only one thing to add : Totally agree with all 👍🏼
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: chasa

well according to the recent olv, chakor also gets doubt abt imli and suraj...so no idea whats 😕gonna happen next...



For Chakor to doubt them, something must have happened. Is it because Suraj keeps quiet!!

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