Kollywood discussion - part 2 - Page 11

Ditty yaar, looks like you and me have missed a lots here...but thx to jenim, i
got it 😆

who want to be jealous of actress, like they have done something great in
this world?? 😕

Originally posted by: jenim

Carynnnnnnnn 😆 😆
I also hope you read between my lines when you said that 😉

Oh yesss........... Jenim. Of course I did. 😃 But still I rather have Jyo's barrell than mine. 😉 I read very interestingly in all of your views. To be frank, I was a bit disappointed that some of you as you came across as stereotypes. Sorry, but this is my view. I understand about image projected, how should one should carry oneself esp if he/she is a public figure. Yes, that is correct. Esp when the public emulates the actors/actresses.

But what I don't understand is why some of you feel that having extra meat in a body is a no, no for an actress. We are all born in different shapes and sizes. So are the actresses too. But there must be something pleasantness in their face/body that a director invited to act. Even though acting is a secondary issue nowadays.

People like Rahdika, Radha, Saritha and others got far in film world. They had beauty, colour, character, charm, etc. Not only that, they could act as well as they had 'meat' in their body. They were given equal opportunity with the heros. They were acceptable weren't they? I remember Radhika wearing shorts in one of her movie. She looked fantastic. There were no comments abt her in shorts with fat thighs. But why we ladies are commenting on present day actresses if she put on an inch somewhere around her body?

You know, in modeling world it is a common ruling among the models that they should not be more than size 6-8 esp in Europe and in France. This has encouraged young girls as young as 14 years to go on diet. Many of them suffered from anorexia and bulimia which have lead to death. Now it started off with Italy who said catwalk models must be at least size 10 if they want to model. That was a good news and this was followed by many European countries.

My question is do we want this happen to our actresses too? I rather have an actress who has meat on her body and even if she can't act or lipsync, the least she can do is say "hey, I am happy with my body". I don't want to see Paris Hilton wannabes in Kollywood. Being healthy is more important than having slim body. Slim body does not make the actress healthy.

I remember one said about Chinese eating so much, and get away with it. I thought the same and always envied my chinese friends and scold them when they say I am fat. They eat a lot n wash down with chinese tea/slimming tea. But that does not mean, they do not have diabetes or high blood pressure. It is a great knowledge that Chinese population are high on blood pressure. The most healthiest people in earth are the Japanese.

Oh Caryn..I knew exactly what I was setting myself up for.. 😛

I would still like to see an actress "barrell / double-chin" free. Did it ever occur to you that it could be something to do with one's personal preference and not to classify it a stereotype? Being slim is what I like, not skinny. What you are referring to is the skinny fad, the world is afflicted with. I don't care about size 0's and never would. And I wouldn't say being slim is not healthy - on the contrary actually - being slim is healthy - being skinny/fat is not healthy.

I do remember, when I watched the movie "Kadhalikka Neramillai" many years ago, I thought Kanchana who was slim (not skinny) looked so graceful in that movie and the other heroine Rajshree had a very pretty face, but I just couldn't stop comparing her stocky figure to that of Kanchana's. And those were the days, when stocky was in. To be honest, Saritha and Radhika did scare the hell out of me even in those days when I was a child/pre-teen, even though I liked their acting. 😆

In real life though (not reel life) I'm not prejudiced against people b'cos of their looks/physical stature. They are just normal people living their lives. But if your profession is to rake in the moolah with your good looks primarily, then you better do a good job!

AFAIK, Radha was not a fat actress, I dont think she ever had barrel hips. She used to ride her bike in the early mornings when she was in town (she lived 2 streets away from mine). BTW She was taller in person and darker too. My sis and I used to discuss then with so much awe what make-up can do to a person! 😆

Forgetting my preference and keeping the trend in mind and taking Jyo's timeline in the industry - less than a decade ago, actresses in most cases were getting paid to look good - and you know waht - it's not just the face and of course, the acting criteria is secondary as you said. They can't just keep on adding pounds and say "I'm happy with my body". Well.. if they did, then they are out!

So what do you think Jyo did eventually? If you are a film celebrity and when you're getting paid to be so, you can't just ignore the "trend". Some one mentioned Nayantara was stocky and SouthIndian fans accepted her the way she was. No.. I don't think so, she barely got a few scenes in Ghajini after her Chandramukhi. And she had to slim down to fill her kitty after that, didn't she? The only exception is Namitha, and you know what she is famous for 😉 but she too did trim down in the recent movies.

While I don't pay that much attention to fat anywhere else 😉 , it does bother me to see barrel hips on screen (including myself at times). While at some point Simran and Jyothika were equal in their acting scores, it used to annoy me that Jyothika didn't put enough efforts to look good (and I'm not talking about the face). Well.. that's my point of view, stereotype or not!

Jenim

Now you scare me. 😆 😆 (and I had to reply) 😃

Good you knew what you were up against. 😛 😃 So are you like the Chinese no matter how slim they are they still think they are fat? 😛

First I am not meaning Radha is a fat actress, but she is meaty person. She has hour glass, tall etc. As far as I know she is the best dresser in her era. Every thing looks lovely on her. Unlike Ambiga and Revathy, they don't look good in some of the dresses.

All I am asking why if an actress (and it does not matter who) put little bit of weight should be out. Why does that have to be a trend. Why can't anyone accept for who and what they are? Nayantra did very well in her first movie with Sarath. Just because she has put on weight in Ghajini, she is not acceptable? What about her acting, her beauty, her smile, her moves, her height, her colour, her sweetness? Does this all not accountable? So she put on weight, she has to be out? No wonder Tisha/Shirya likes to dress in scanty clothes. This is the only way to earn money while they can. Otherwise if they put on a slightest weight they would be out in the streets selling candles. 😃

There I was discussing with mum, when directors gives interview, that this is what audience wants and we said, bull, it is what director wants not the rest of the world. But now got to admit what the directors said was true if what is dicussed here to go by. 😊

I will admit Jenim, I am guilty like rest of you. Then I realised I am no better than them by not taking care of myself. Plus lately another IFian member told me that putting on weight does not mean eating alot, but could be health problem

So maybe Jyo had bloating problem at the time of filming. 😛 😉

Jenim

Now you scare me. 😆 😆 (and I had to reply) 😃

Good you knew what you were up against. 😛 😃 So are you like the Chinese no matter how slim they are they still think they are fat? 😛

First I am not meaning Radha is a fat actress, but she is meaty person. She has hour glass, tall etc. As far as I know she is the best dresser in her era. Every thing looks lovely on her. Unlike Ambiga and Revathy, they don't look good in some of the dresses.

All I am asking why if an actress (and it does not matter who) put little bit of weight should be out. Why does that have to be a trend. Why can't anyone accept for who and what they are? Nayantra did very well in her first movie with Sarath. Just because she has put on weight in Ghajini, she is not acceptable? What about her acting, her beauty, her smile, her moves, her height, her colour, her sweetness? Does this all not accountable? So she put on weight, she has to be out? No wonder Tisha/Shirya likes to dress in scanty clothes. This is the only way to earn money while they can. Otherwise if they put on a slightest weight they would be out in the streets selling candles. 😃

There I was discussing with mum, when directors gives interview, that this is what audience wants and we said, bull, it is what director wants not the rest of the world. But now got to admit what the directors said was true if what is dicussed here to go by. 😊

I will admit Jenim, once I was guilty like rest of you. Then I realised I am no better than them by not taking care of myself. Plus lately another IFian member told me that putting on weight does not mean eating alot, but could be health problem

So maybe Jyo had bloating problem at the time of filming. 😛 😉 Look it at that way.

Originally posted by: jenim

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Aiyoh Ditty.. War-aavadhu Keer-aavadhu, yellam chumma.. 😉

Wait..Let me kozhappufy you some more. If I remember vaguely you had mentioned some things about Asin's acting on the negative.. right? Now would that mean whatever you said was b'cos you were jealous of her? 😛 😉 😆

No, jenim, Asin is the last person in the world I'll ever be jealous of😆. One usually admire film actresses , who is jealous of them?😉I've never wanted to be a film actress, and my negative comments on Asin were made as a viewer, thts all😊

And congrats to Ajith and Shalini!- a girl for them too~!!!!!😳👏

Oh Whoa whoa Caryn!
What gives you an idea that I'm like the Chinese, no matter how slim, I think it's fat? I think this is totally uncalled for!
I've been working at it for 5 years in a row post-pregnancy and still not anywhere near being slim 😆

What you said is stereotyping the Chinese, which I don't necessarily agree with. I have many Chinese friends who are slim yet curvy and would make sure they have the right amount of meat wherever needed 😉

You did include Radha along with the likes of Saritha and Radhika in your earlier post and I had to clarify. In my understanding, Radha NEVER had barrel hips and should not be categorized with the others who were barrel-like. She was slightly meaty in the same way BanuPriya was in those days. To me, that still is being fit.

At the expense of repeating myself, if you are in the current film industry, mainly based on your looks, (it's not just the beauty of the face), you have to look fit. There's tons of competition around - there's plenty for the audience to choose from. And they choose whoever is cute and fit. That's what makes the trend. If everyone available looks flabby/meaty, then that becomes the trend - this is what you saw in the black & white movie age.

Now, one cannot look barrel like and torture viewers by jumping around wearing shorts and exposing the barrel-like midriff, in songs. That I repeat, is pure torture. I used to like Nayantara till Sivaji, and I'm one of those viewers who was totally grossed out looking at her X-Machi song in Ghajini. It was just ewww. Just please don't wear clothes that don't match your figure. Same thing with Jyothika jumping around with her kind of figure in Megam karukkudhu song in Kushi and the college song that I don't care to remember in 12B. Wear something to suit your figure, if not lose your flabs to wear such clothes!

If you have to expose b'cos that's what regular audience (considering a large chunk of the core audience is male in their 20s-40s) wants to see in a heroine, then simply keep in shape. In the olden days, exposure was limited and fat was some what covered up, so one need not be grossed out watching it on actresses.

I think I can fairly say you are also discriminatory 😉 b'cos you have included color in your description of beauty (of actresses). To me, color has never mattered - there are actresses like Sneha, Nandita Das who are on the top of my fav list.

Just please don't compare the common man with those in the film industry. If you or I gained weight, then it's just our problem. But if an actress gains weight and still chooses to wear clothes revealing fat, that's just not acceptable to most people. If you were comfortable with Nayan's appearance in Ghajini and particularly the X-machi song, then kudos to you. But for a very, very large chunk of the audience, it was quite unbearable.

Again with Jyo (and I have said this before) there were a series of films she was just so barrel-like. She gave an interview to the tamil mag Kumudam with Vikram, at the time of shooting Dhool. She admitted that she had been eating a lot of fatty stuff earlier and is now trying to lose weight for the movie. And that she is aware of eating healthy/exercising right and not going back to eating fatty/unhealthy stuff. I'm saying this b'cos at that point, even she seem to have realized that she needs to eat right and be fit. Jyo still made it happen for Manmadhan, right? I realize it will be hard for some of the fan(atics) of Jyo here to see it in the same light that I've been pointing out.

I don't want to see Paris Hilton wannabes in Kollywood. Being healthy is more important than having slim body. Slim body does not make the actress healthy.

Oh Please, Caryn, a woman is a woman, be it Kollywood, Hollywood or Bollywood; They all need to be slim, minus the cholestrol, sugar and blood pressure like men. That's what my doctor has always said.

Jagdu, don't you start. Woman is a woman? What kind of categorisation is that? Maybe you should change your doctor. He is one idiot who needs to know more about women before making comments like that.

What did you say - "just like men?" So who is Danny Devito, Jim Bellushi? They are slim in your eyes? What is your vision may I ask?

Women come in different shapes and colours and sizes. Not all are small and not all are tall. They don't come from same mould. They all can be slim minus all the sickness. But does that happen often. If you are filthy rich enough and staying in US or in your desperate move sue someone, then you can go for lipsuction, botox, gastric staplings, slimming products, etc. Unfortunately, it does not happen in rest part of the world. Even a slim woman can have cholestrol. I have friends who are very slim and yet very high on cholestrol. I can tell you that I am on bigger side but have no cholestrol, sugar or blood pressure at all.

I am not on diet but I make sure I eat healthy food. Maybe you should ask your doctor to learn about human and then be humane before making degrading remarks like this.

Asking you in example only Jenim. 😉 No offence. I have many chinese friends as well. If you come to Asia, esp to Malaysia and Singapore. Approach a Chinese girl and tell her this "Wow, you look so slim. How do you do that?" 99% this is will be their answer "nolahhhhhh.. I am fat, see got meat in my hips. I need to loose weight more. This is inspite of them going to gym for 3 hours perday 7 days a week and eating all fruits and veggies. Very very rare you will get a chinese saying thank you for the compliements. That is why I asked if you are like them. 😉

I included colour Jenim, because I always say "black is beauty" (coz I am one too. 😉 😆 ) Not many like black, so there is discriminatory but not me. So.... 😛 😛 😛

Just thinking of what we talked about in this thread, I enquired from my brothers and their friends what would they like to see in an actress. (Jenim, we are quite frank with each other, my brothers and I, so there are some discussion we discuss with no holds barred). They all said their fav was Jyo. They said she could act and she has sweet smile and cheeky look which they all found it adorable. Then I asked what about her 'barrell' 😉 and her clothes. I am proud to say the boys asked me "so what?" At end of the day, she can deliver. 😊 😃

Then they went on to say that they wish Asin can be given a chance just like Jyo. However, they went on brow beating Shreya, who can't act, lipsync and looks like bimbo or barbie. She looks like a stick - yeuk!!!

So this shows men of today are ready to accept actresses for their acting abilities not not what they can show off. So if directors bring again another Radika or Radha, I am sure the men can accept them compared to the women.

I have seen women dressed up worst than Sherya/Jyo so I am okay with their dressing even if they have barrel or not. I have seen pregnant women dressing up worst than Jyo, so to all those women who dresses up like that.... you go girl, be daring.

Btw, I think Sherya must have read all the comments in IF because in ATM, she was more decently dressed than Simran in her dance. 😆 😆 😆