Rape is a Rape is a Rape

It was pointed out that while a women is given a rape drug she passes out and the perpetrator has his way with her that it is rape, whereas in the case of a man such a drug does not exist or he cannot perform.

I am going to analyze it from what was shown. JW's alcohol was laced with a drug. This drug might not have knocked him out but lowered his defenses as such aprodishiacs do and render him not in his right senses. If JW had taken that drug of his free will than any action after that he is liable for. If JW was given that drug in the sly and it has sideffects like lowering of his control on his senses or his defenses I would still call it rape as his state of being was not dictated by him own free will. These drugs can be perfromance enhancer with aprodishiacs and and totally play havoc with a persons system. To call such a victim a willling participant is gross injusticce and almost like raping the person all over again.

Also this is Ektaland if she can show million dollar properties changing hands with a single signature, why do we question when her creative team show that drugs were slipped in JW's drink and he was not in his senses and does not remember what happened. In any which way you look at it, action was taken without JW's knowledge that put him in a position where gross advantage was taken. I really feel as a society we should be able to achkowledge male rape and treat it as a equally heinous crime as we do female rape, and not make the victim defend his actions.

Originally posted by: cute1228

I feel bad for male that have 2 go throw that. Every1 just says o the guy doesnt get raped, just cause he is strong, its really not right. They are humans just like us females, then y treat their rapes like nothin happened?

Nicely said Mitali...👏 I agree as well...Just because males look strong on the outside...It doesn't mean they dn't have feelings...When they get emotional or are upset, it doesn't mean they can tolerate it...It's just that they have to and they DO...In Jai's case...He has really tolerated ALOT in his life...😭 He's accepted it even though in his heart he might have that 'feeling' of how females feel when they get raped...😭

Hi Meghna,

Good to see you dear, been so long.

Humm....coming to your topic of Rape being Rape...odd to have this topic out again after so long.

Anyways here are my thoughts towards your post.

Rape is indeed rape dear be it man or woman.

Am woman being raped by date drug is common as is a man being raped by a man...by a date drug...as a man raping a man unconscious can be done dear, it feasable.

But for a woma to rape a man...who is out cold is not medically or physically possible dear...thus a theory of a man being rapoed whe hes out cold is not feasable ......thus for a man to perform...he needs to be in his senses dear.

Rape is indeed a henious crime...and the people who have gone through with it..live with those mental scares forever.

Thsu rape is not a joke..as it is made out in the telly world..wives being raped by hubbies do happen...how many woman...complain...very few...rape by uncles, father...etc also do happen...fang rapes of females...males do happen...thus..rape is a sensetive issue that needs to be handled with care and understanding.

Not to be used as a shock factor or covering up of characters face.

Love

Krishna

Originally posted by: RaviMalhotra69

Alternatively, it can be seen as the guy just giving in! 😆

Since this post was in reply to my post on the other thread about Veer and Bani, you should have replied over there yaar!

Actually, the thing is that Walia was definitely in his senses at the time Pia was making her move on him... he was arguing with her the guy was saying "no"- but the reasoning she was giving seemed to do the trick at the time. The guy must have been wrecked by Bani's divorce fiasco game that she was playing and so I don't have trouble in believing that he was not mentally at his strongest.

Basically I'm positive that there is no "drug" out there that can turn a "no" into a "yes" in an instant. If there was such strong stuff like that out there, I'm sure that it would be popular and guys would probably be raped more often! 😆

Anyways, the KS explaination with the drugging really does not seem more like a story of convenience introduced to try and bring credibility back to Walia again.

Completely agree dear😃.

As with other bloopers, I just put the "drugging" thing down as a blooper also and ignore it... weird things happen in Tellyland! 😆

Exactly😆

At the end of the day, when Walia hooked up with Bani on June 18, even Bani was drugged with something - and hey, it was not by her free will either! 😆

God bless.

Originally posted by: kubare

Hi Meghna,

Good to see you dear, been so long.

Humm....coming to your topic of Rape being Rape...odd to have this topic out again after so long.

Anyways here are my thoughts towards your post.

Rape is indeed rape dear be it man or woman.

Am woman being raped by date drug is common as is a man being raped by a man...by a date drug...as a man raping a man unconscious can be done dear, it feasable.

But for a woma to rape a man...who is out cold is not medically or physically possible dear...thus a theory of a man being rapoed whe hes out cold is not feasable ......thus for a man to perform...he needs to be in his senses dear.

Rape is indeed a henious crime...and the people who have gone through with it..live with those mental scares forever.

Thsu rape is not a joke..as it is made out in the telly world..wives being raped by hubbies do happen...how many woman...complain...very few...rape by uncles, father...etc also do happen...fang rapes of females...males do happen...thus..rape is a sensetive issue that needs to be handled with care and understanding.

Not to be used as a shock factor or covering up of characters face.

Love

Krishna

Krishna,

I think giving a man performance enhancers or aprodishiacs to lower his defenses is also rape. Someone does not have to be knocked out to be raped. I don't know why the creatives showed the drugging happening, but the fact remains that they did show it implying that Pia slipped something in his drink that caused him not to be in his right senses. He did not take that out of his free will and just to me it's rape. If someone slips a mood enhancer or mind bender in my drink and i give in while conscious I would still see it as being raped as it was not something I wanted to do.

Good to see you too.

meghna

Originally posted by: fsam

Meg I agree with you, it said to be rape when one of the two occur, the victim says no and the perpetrator does not heed the no. The second time is when the victim is drugged and is in no frame of mind to know what happened to him/her, and JW was in no condition to object. He didn't even remember what happened! JW deffo falls into the second category, and hence was deffo raped.

As for why its being said, its the only thing his detractors have on him now.

Fsam! 🤗

Walia was in no condition to object! 😆 😆 😆

Good one fsam!

Anyways, the guy was DEFINITELY in condition to object! I mean, he was objecting a few seconds before the hug. And hey, Pia didn't wrestle him into submission... if anything, his hug looked stronger than hers! 😆

He did object to start with... but he changed his mind as mentioned above.

Seriously, if a guy is in no frame of mind to know what is going on, there is no way he can be able to do the deed!

Anyways, I agree with Mitali ben that rape is nasty for anyone - be it a man or a woman. The thing is that the only issue here is the feasibility of the male rape via drugging... which is pretty much out of the question.

Finally, I repeat the I only raised this drugging thing up in the other thread due to the feasility - not because I'm "the enemy" that's on a secret mission to mallign a fictional character! 😆

God bless.

Originally posted by: fsam