Isha and Shantanu too are wrong like Ishaan

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Posted: 6 months ago

If Ishaan hates his mom not only Shantanu family but the couple are at fault 


I do not understand how Isha just left  a kid forever and went whose her son Ishaan 


In childhood kids require their mom more than father or relatives 


If a kid is hurt or sad or gets punished in school they run to tell mom not dad or relatives 


If Isha wanted to take care of her parents she must have taken Ishaan along or atleast visited him once in a while like 6 months once or written letters or sent gifts etc 


How can a mother just leave her child alone for 15-20 years with relatives who do not like her(means they do not like ishaan too or shantanu too for that matter) and just go to her parents house for 20 years without coming to meet her child even once?


Imagine if ishaan gets hurt while playing or gets beaten up in school by friends or teachers whom shall he run to say?  


Even Shantanu is at fault he should have atleast told Ishaan why Isha left made her call him every day at night or every week etc. Shanatanu could have taken Ishaan in holidyas to Isha wheverver she stayed and made him spend all school college holidays with mom. How can Isha just abondon her kid? 


In todays modern world many mothers stay abroad or in other cities on work for few months or years. They do not completely abondon their kids like Isha did. Isha should have moved her parents to her city and stayed with them in same town as her son. Ishaan could have stayed with Isha and her parents every week end so many options were there. But Isha  and Shanatanu both did not do anything just left Ishaan to grow up without a mother or family. 


Both Ishan and Shanatanu have failed to be good parents to Ishaan just left him at mercy of relatives who brain wash him teach him bad things etc 


No wonder Ishaan hates his mom? And no wonder hes angry and frustrated in life and is removing that on Savi. Because Ishaan thinks Savi got his mothers love and care that he never got 


Everyone works nowadays women and many take care of parents too but not by abondoing own son or husband alone like this. Isha could have moved her parents to next house of Shanatanu and she could handle both set of responsibility son and parents together. Thats what many woman in indian cities do nowadays take care of kids and parents too. 


Society is changing sons do not want parents to stay with their family as wives will object. Daughters are taking up responsibility like Isha to look after parents. But no woman will abondon her small kid like Isha they will take care of both somehow. 


Ishaan is definetly wrong towards Savi bt his own parents have wronged him and its impcated his thinking and emotions and reactions etc 


How would anyone like if the mother who abondoned them for 20 years in childhood is showering love and care and feeding and putting another girl to sleep, the affection you wanted fro your mother for 20 years is being showerd on a non related girl by own mother. Any child would get angry and wild like Ishaan. Indeed Ishaan reaction is very less others would create more scenes for Savi and Isha both in anger 


Everyone wants Ishan to be mature as hes PHD and school adminitstrator and professor sorry but when it comes to Isha, Ishaan is a 6 year old kid craving for mothers love not 28 year old(i assume hes done PHD in 5 years so 23+5 =28) professor. 


When Ishan will know truth he will understand his mother being caught between him and other responsibilities he will surely forgive Isha and accept her as mom and go back to her than stay with Bhonsales. 

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Posted: 6 months ago

Ur right in a way. Isha never defended whatever she did. She is shown regretful about it. 

According to the show or the original version, Isha's brother was murdered by bhosales (not revealed in ghum yet) with a preconception of shooing Isha away from the house once she demanded to support her parents. It ll also be revealed that Isha did come to see ishaan but was never allowed to meet him. She saw him from far away distance and left. In fact she too has equally suffered as ishaan in those 20 years. 

The story is 20 years old. Things are different now. U never know how the situation might be for a woman 20 years back. As they say the person is not bad but the situation is, bhosales tortured her, threatened her and made sure she left the house. 

But shantanu is the biggest culprit. He has wronged his wife and his son. If he had taken the situation into hand, things wouldnt have been the way it is today. 

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Posted: 6 months ago

Ishaan has suffered. I mentioned earlier he has been the collateral damage in the struggle between Isha and the Bhosales.

The first few of Savis life she was raised only by her mom. Yet Sayi made sure that savi did not harbour any illwill towards her father. That aspect has been missed by Shantanu. It could also be that Surekha intentionally kept Ishan away from Shantanu.

By nature Savi is a happy child sees good in all and confident within  ishaan on the other hand is vulnerable and the hurt of abandonment has festered in him and turned toxic. He is bitter within.

Savi has faced financial hardships there is discrimination even in the food she and Vinu were fed and. Was physically abused too. Savi has been resilient but ishaan has been abandoned twice by his mother and Reeva. He is in a I'm not OK you are not Ok state 

He is likely to change and Savi will heal him if he distances. Himself from AkkaSahib and the Bhosales.

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Posted: 6 months ago

I completely agree that Ishan's parents are the most wrong ones in this scenerio and that's why Ishan's behaviour towards his mom doesn't angry me. What I am hating about him is that he is hell bent on punishing Savi for his mom's mistakes. He doesn't see that Savi is so young and just a student who only wants to study. He doesn't even separates his personal and professional life when it comes to her. He keeps sending her out of the class for no valid reason. He wasn't ready to give her hostel room again coz he doesn't like her. He forms an opinion about her listening to his waahiyat family and insults her left right and centre, calls her characterless and what not and again not a single evidence backing any of his allegation. He has treated her in the worst possible way upto now. Well that will start changing now.

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Posted: 6 months ago

Absolutely agreed that right from the admission he has been doing whatever he pleases creating new hurdles rescripting rules and conditions. He has only been seeing what he wants to see ...the attitude of his AkkaSahib in shaping his perception is waning a bit now.

He has started looking for logic and reasons. The women in the Bhosale household have never shown signs of intelligence . They could not tolerate the intelligence and confidence of Isha Bhosale and ousted her. The only strong woman or should I say cunning woman in his circle is AkkaSahib. The brilliance of Savi does impress him today. He has been wondering how to make amends for his blunders.  

The understanding between him and Savi has to be built. I guess slowly brick by brick for it to become one of substance and significance.

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Posted: 6 months ago

Originally posted by: Shinesparkle3

Ur right in a way. Isha never defended whatever she did. She is shown regretful about it. 

According to the show or the original version, Isha's brother was murdered by bhosales (not revealed in ghum yet) with a preconception of shooing Isha away from the house once she demanded to support her parents. It ll also be revealed that Isha did come to see ishaan but was never allowed to meet him. She saw him from far away distance and left. In fact she too has equally suffered as ishaan in those 20 years. 

The story is 20 years old. Things are different now. U never know how the situation might be for a woman 20 years back. As they say the person is not bad but the situation is, bhosales tortured her, threatened her and made sure she left the house. 

But shantanu is the biggest culprit. He has wronged his wife and his son. If he had taken the situation into hand, things wouldnt have been the way it is today. 


why shantanau allowed his wife to live other city 20 years?


Why he could have shifted Isha parents to his city and brought them home and Isha Shanatanu Ishaan  stay together in same city and he staying with her like now

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Posted: 6 months ago

Originally posted by: moonwearer

Absolutely agreed that right from the admission he has been doing whatever he pleases creating new hurdles rescripting rules and conditions. He has only been seeing what he wants to see ...the attitude of his AkkaSahib in shaping his perception is waning a bit now.

He has started looking for logic and reasons. The women in the Bhosale household have never shown signs of intelligence . They could not tolerate the intelligence and confidence of Isha Bhosale and ousted her. The only strong woman or should I say cunning woman in his circle is AkkaSahib. The brilliance of Savi does impress him today. He has been wondering how to make amends for his blunders.  

The understanding between him and Savi has to be built. I guess slowly brick by brick for it to become one of substance and significance.


usually kid is influenced by parents mother or father or grandparents 


When shantanu stayed with ishaan last 20 years why hes not taken care of ishaan 


Why he left akka sahib etc to take care of Ishaan and poison him against parents and mom  


Unless santanu himself hated Isha  and wanted Ishaan to hate his wife i do not see why he allowed this to happen? 


Shanatanu should have taken care of Ishaan last 20 years than akka sahib or kaka etc than he would not be so biased and bad to Savi 

Edited by myviewprem - 6 months ago
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Posted: 6 months ago

Originally posted by: moonwearer

Ishaan has suffered. I mentioned earlier he has been the collateral damage in the struggle between Isha and the Bhosales.

The first few of Savis life she was raised only by her mom. Yet Sayi made sure that savi did not harbour any illwill towards her father. That aspect has been missed by Shantanu. It could also be that Surekha intentionally kept Ishan away from Shantanu.

By nature Savi is a happy child sees good in all and confident within  ishaan on the other hand is vulnerable and the hurt of abandonment has festered in him and turned toxic. He is bitter within.

Savi has faced financial hardships there is discrimination even in the food she and Vinu were fed and. Was physically abused too. Savi has been resilient but ishaan has been abandoned twice by his mother and Reeva. He is in a I'm not OK you are not Ok state 

He is likely to change and Savi will heal him if he distances. Himself from AkkaSahib and the Bhosales.


I do not understand why Ishaan still staying with Bhonsales 


Why he did not go with Shanatnu to stay in Isha home by now? 


After all Shanatnu is his closest family last 20 years 


How can Shanatnu too leave his son alone and walk off to Savi 


Is some comedy going on - mother leaves 20 years kid alone now father has left son alone 


both have no responsibility towards son at all - bus they hgave birth and left him at relatives mercy and fate 


Imagine having such useless parents who are irresponsible and selfish child would turn criminal 


Luckily Ishaan has studied is PHD and professor which is unbelievable bec such kids have lots of mental and social issues 

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