Originally posted by: FuturePapa
we both fight a lot as she is deepika fan and i m Katrina fan. But when it comes to country and army we can keep fights away😆
Originally posted by: FuturePapa
we both fight a lot as she is deepika fan and i m Katrina fan. But when it comes to country and army we can keep fights away😆
No only people who take pleasure in seeing celebs getting abused will understand it the way you did.
No sane person will support these kinds of threats but yeah to each his own : we certainly don't share the same ethics.
By the way, I might not be as eloquent in English as other here because it's just my third language and I picked it up on my own but you're definitely not intimidating me. RTH expressed my thoughts better than me and it makes more sense to me than what you're trying to defend.
Originally posted by: return_to_hades
I believe that humans should be sensitive to the "impact" of their words. Even if words were misunderstood or misconstrued - if someone was hurt or offended or felt threatened by the words you use - you apologize. I don't think it is an apology for the words, feelings or intentions you have, but an apology for hurtfully impacting others. It is the right thing to do.No one is compelled to align with my notions. No one has to apologize. But when people throw words willy-nilly with no disregard for how they impact others - I see it as disrespectful trollish behavior.Most of the time on this forum - if I unintentionally hurt someone or get misunderstood - I apologize. And yes, there are times when I refuse to acknowledge my word choices were poor - those are my asshole troll moments.On a lighter note - words don't always mean the same across the world - for the longest time I thought peanut butter and jelly was the grossest sandwich in the world - until I discovered Jelly: USA:: Jam:India
This is not true. I don't fight with this person. Only she/he taunts me over things. It is because she/he is a Katrina fan and I severely dislike her. Nothing to do with Deepika in it. But I'm still glad somebody's having a laugh over this lol
He is a military man, and I am not sure about other countries but I have seen the Indian ones speak and express themselves in a certain, no mincing of words kind of a manner. Even when one sees them on TV debates, they appear very direct, and might I say a little aggressive (Not sure if that's the correct word - need help here).The current Army chief has seen himself landing in controversies several times due to some people often terming his comments as aggressive, belligerent, jingoistic, etc.Not just in India, but in many countries, military personnel have hypermasculine aggressive and jingoistic posturing. It is dangerous and damaging. It is a leading cause of war crimes and abuse in the military. In India, we tend to give a lot of leeway to military personnel. I personally have zero tolerance for such posturing.You can be strong and tough, without being dehumanizing, aggressive or belligerent to others. You don't see the good ones blowing hot air.
Not just in India, but in many countries, military personnel have hypermasculine aggressive and jingoistic posturing. It is dangerous and damaging. It is a leading cause of war crimes and abuse in the military. In India, we tend to give a lot of leeway to military personnel. I personally have zero tolerance for such posturing.You can be strong and tough, without being dehumanizing, aggressive or belligerent to others. You don't see the good ones blowing hot air.
They talk on TV the way they talk to their men. While talking to their men there is a need for them to be a little aggressive and it might sound jingoistic to some civilians but that's what keeps them going at the border. They have a tough job and if a certain manner of speaking by the seniors keeps their morale up, I honestly dont see a problem there. They have one job and it doesn't involve even a bit of diplomacy, therefore, I think we should cut them some slack.
Ahh, if you think the Army gets a lot of leeway in India, you should check out the long articles that will be written when another wave of stone pelters will strike Kashmir. Illegal FIRs will be filed by the state governemt against army men, army personnel will be demonized for doing their job when a mob of 900 stone pelters surrounds their jeep, and a lot more. I am not saying the Armt shouldn't be questioned and held accountable. It certainly should be as no one should be above scrutiny but they surely dont get too much leeway in India.If the online praising is being construed as leeway then I think that is unfair.
Originally posted by: return_to_hades
@Red - This is the most fatal, dangerous, and problematic assumption about the military.Even a military is all about diplomacy. No one should ever actively seek conflict, but be 110% ready if someone else seeks it. The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war. You have to put an effort to develop trust, respect, and goodwill. It goes a long way.Both sides of the argument down to "soldiers" in India. It reflects the sorry state of affairs. Its gotten worse than Murrica. A stupendous feast.I refuse to give a break to any aggressive posturing no matter who it is.
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