Father and Son - More alike than they think? - Page 5

Soni I am not into this fanwar n I am ready to accept whoever is the strongest.

preet u might remember it that i was mad at shivay that he did not give attention to his bros problems. do u remember it? if i say sth against om then why everyone is trying to make me understand that I m wrong. everyone can have his own perception.

Awesome post ... I beleive omkara has many more colors and shades of him to be unvieled .. he has strong points and weak points like any human ... but I don't think he is like tej at all .. omkara is a very emotionally driven person ... this one quality of his is what I believe makes all the difference between him and tej .. I cannot see him being ruthless or power or money hungry ... I really hope it never happens for me that's the end of omakar that I love .. I connect to this quality of omkara on a personal level cause I too am a very emotionally driven person .. I want him to show that this quality of his not his weak point but his strength ... ppl say that emotinal ppl can be easily manipulated and taken for a ride and that they r stupid ... but see shivaay isn't emotinal but he still is being fooled by tia no ... I strongly believe that having a soft heart in a cruel world is strength not weakness .. and I want this to be proven by om in the show

Originally posted by: .bintAli.

Prinku said that he used to be the strongest. Kunal, too, said in an IV that Omkara hasn't always been like what we see of him in the show, today - he became like this after the accident. Once he has dealt with his demons, chances are high that he will slowly become that Omkara Singh Oberoi of the past, once again.

Also, I believe that the opening post was not really about comparing Shivaay with Omkara but more about Tej's perception of both and how said perception might change in the future. This is not about whether Om is stronger or Shivaay is stronger, there is no real comparison there. Situations bring out the better or worst of people - in Om's case, the accident brought out the worse. Yes, there is a lot he could have done differently but he didn't- and now, we have conflict. He isn't perfect that he'd do the correct thing whenever the time came to.

As for Shivaay, no one can deny that Shivaay has been a pillar for his family. He works hard for them, he wants to keep them together and he puts them first, especially his brothers. But even Shivaay is a human (and we have seen him err, too) - he has a breaking point, too, and his might be reached through Anika. No one said he is going to take drugs when he breaks, though, and that that is a measure for determining who is stronger or weaker - he isn't Om, his self destruction will definitely look different.

I have always said that Shivaay is a lot more like Tej than anyone else, Shivaay is so similar to Tej that you'd think he is actually Tej's son. But I also think the TM is not wrong when saying that it might be a mask he has perfected over the years because life expected this of him - it might be true, and it might not be true. Though, my thoughts on the matter are as such: Once upon a time, even Tej might have been ready to do anything for his family like Shivaay is doing, right now. Put them first. Work on the edges of what is morally correct and what is not to ensure his family's happiness - and eventually, he slipped and became this rough, hard man we see today.

Therefore, I still think that Shivaay is more like Tej - and that even Tej has a breaking point (Om is his weakness). Om showing Tej that he is wrong, that Om, too, is very strong won't necessarily prove that he is more like his father, imo. But that is because I believe Tej is not as "strong" or "stone-hearted" as we believe, right now.

Peace! 😉

Originally posted by: drafsul

Awesome post ... I beleive omkara has many more colors and shades of him to be unvieled .. he has strong points and weak points like any human ... but I don't think he is like tej at all .. omkara is a very emotionally driven person ... this one quality of his is what I believe makes all the difference between him and tej .. I cannot see him being ruthless or power or money hungry ... I really hope it never happens for me that's the end of omakar that I love .. I connect to this quality of omkara on a personal level cause I too am a very emotionally driven person .. I want him to show that this quality of his not his weak point but his strength ... ppl say that emotinal ppl can be easily manipulated and taken for a ride and that they r stupid ... but see shivaay isn't emotinal but he still is being fooled by tia no ... I strongly believe that having a soft heart in a cruel world is strength not weakness .. and I want this to be proven by om in the show

Originally posted by: AngelicSani

Similar thoughts girl🤗

Originally posted by: Sonikins

preet u might remember it that i was mad at shivay that he did not give attention to his bros problems. do u remember it? if i say sth against om then why everyone is trying to make me understand that I m wrong. everyone can have his own perception.

When you said against Shivaaye didn't I try to make you understand that he wasn't wrong? If anyone has the right of opinion then why not the right to make others understand

Originally posted by: butterfly_16

Great post👍🏼

I don't believe Om will become Tej version 2.0😆 Nah, if anything that's what he knows not to do. At the end of the day, Om is his own person. I do believe that Om will come to understand Tej at one point though even if he may not forgive him entirely. He is beginning to realize through this whole accident track as he said himself - that sometimes the line between right and wrong becomes so blurred it's difficult to determine who's right and who's wrong.

Om is not Tej. He won't make the same mistakes as Tej, but he will make his own.

About the topic, well I don't feel that Tej is anywhere a heartless or stone hearted fellow, he is way too much practical, you might feel that he loves Om more than SHivaaye is something wrong about him. but then Shivaaye too loves his family more than the outer world. When Ashok died in the fire, he was sad at the death, but still was happy that the death didn't get any media hype that would have affected their family name

When his chopper got crashed, he might have been alive, but his pilot (I don't know what the person who operates a chopper is called) must have died and that person would have been a very close acquaintance of Shivaaye as he often uses the chopper, did he show even a bit of remorse for his death? No.

When he felt that Anika did the chip leakage, he went to extremes to bring her down probably to the limit which would be called wrong

So in this regard both SHivaye and Tej are alike, both keep family much above the social decisions of good and bad. The only difference is that for Tej, family means Om and Rudra, while for Shivaaye it is the entire Oberoi clan.
Neither of Shivaaye and Tej are selfless (and nor are Om or Shakti), they both want the best for their family irrespective of what happens to the rest of the world

We see that Shivaaye is doing a lot for the family, business and all, but same was what Tej did earlier, he continued to work despite his father's death although Shakti was shattered and couldn't step out of their home, so at that time Tej worked selflessly (if that is the definition) supporting not just OmRu Prinku and Jahnavi but also Shakti , Pinky and Shivaaye

The point of discussion was whether Shivaaye do something wrong for business, well I guess buying the home from the legal guardian of a minor would definitely be a wrong act. Therefore I feel that both Shivaaye and Tej are very alike

ABout SHankti and Om, well as I said none of them are selfless, I rather feel that both of them are alike in the sense that both of them are hiding something, we got to know about Om, we will soon get to know about Shakti as well

Preet I disagree with Shivay and tej being similar on family . Tej and Shivaay are alike in outside world and business but when come to near and dear one they are polar opposite. Shivay deeply love and care about his family. He was devastated to see Om condition and even blamed himself for no fault. He will never neglect and hurt his family like tej did with his family. He broke his family by cheating, destroy his son childhood by his callous attitude. He never tried to see his fault. He did same yesterday. Instead of finding the cause of om emotional weakness he was busy in ranting his troubles of heir, troubles.