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Posted: 8 years ago

 Ok, so basically you have no statistics / evidence to support your statement. You are simply making an analysis based on your own understanding / perception and just on those basis you are even releasing a statement " that those who express their dislike towards Anandi are only a minority" 

Since it's only your assumption, it's debatable. If you have proven records then let's discuss, otherwise concluding that those who dislike Anandi are minority is INVALID 

You are the one who said the views expressed in online forums do make a difference.

That is why I am asking you for statistics of people with internet access and among those with access who sit and express their displeasure over TV shows and characters so relentlessly day after day and the ones who express their dislike once in a while and probably move on to another show or what ever that catches their interest.

Don't know if writers ever visit this forum - But if they decide to visit this forum they sure will be flattered to see how much attention people shower on their show even when they claim to be bored with the show and don't find it interesting anymore.πŸ˜›πŸ˜†

So on what basis are you coming to conclusion that people don't care about Anandi or this show? Just based on a few opinions expressed on line that too in a country where internet access is limited when compared to TV owning households how right is to conclude that people don't care?






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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: hisusmita

I dont know where it is shown , I mean how it is clear that Anandi always needs male support.

I think since childhood she never needed any male support. She did what her heart told her to do. She fought for the people who are in problems, in pain but never disrespected her elders, never disobeyed them. She did what is right but always given importance to her loved ones.

 I thought I am not clear where it is shown that she always needed male support , I wanted to recollect it from the beginning.

From childhood she used to do everything for the people , Bhairon Singh supported her because he knew that she is doing the right thing. She never waited for Bhairon to come or pleaded him. But its Bhairon , who realised what he should be doing earlier , the girl is doing that so he ran after her, helped her complete the things which she initiated seeing people in problem.

That does not show that she needs male support.

She loved Jagya as she knew that he is her beendh

After Jagya humiliated her, insulted her badly she decided to rebuild her life. She never needed any man in her life. She started education for the girls and elderly persons.

After Shiv came he was impressed seeing her capability , her willpower. Its Shiv who has fallen for her, not the other way round. She didnt want to marry , But when married she fulfilled her all responsibilities.

After Shiv when her in laws was ready to go to Singapore, she never asked anyone to stay back for her saying she needs male support. But she was firm that she cant go as she cant leave her Nandini here. Atleast if she stays in India , she may get her one day.

She wanted to stay in KB.

But her DS, Daddu decided that she will be with her DS as before leaving Daddu wanted to leave her with her Maika, for forumwasis it may be A's ex sasural but Anandi, BHwasis, Jaitsarwasis , writers all came a long way. For them she was the beti of the house when the son left them, they did their Kanyadaan and she will always be beti there. Its her Maika.

She refused but Daddu said its his order.

Anandi came there not seeking any male support, not for Jagya,  But for DS who wanted her to be there.

Nowhere it was shown she came there because she needed Jagya's support.

They have shown few scenes here and there that she wanted to leave but DS forced her to stay with her. So we have to go by that .

She came there for Daddu and DS, not for Jagya (male support)

As per the tagline, theme rishta of Anandi and DS who were completely opposite earlier bonded in pain so well that for DS there is no difference between Jagya and her Anandi.

For her both Jagya's kid and Anandi's kids are same.

They have come a long way, they dont bother about what society thinks. They are very clear in their mind what relation they share.

That relation is not based on seeking any male support.But a family where if any problem arises everyone stands for each other.

Infact Anandi supported Jagya when he was in problem always.

Both of them have past baggage , which is very open . So their spouses accepted them that way.

Now Its the relation between Anandi and DS , not Anandi and Jagya.

After she came to BH it has been shown, she is searching for her daughter,  Ofcourse once complaint is filed, it is the job of the police to help the civilians. You cant run without any head and tail. Police were doing their duty and she was following up

She has managed to built a school for the girls (no where they have shown she has taken male support to build the school)

Neither financially nor emotionally.(no male support , atleast that is what has been shown)

DS was there with her.

It is she who helped doctor Anant (actually he needed female supportπŸ˜†)

She helped him to get a job thru Jagya.

Now also she is doing everything of her own. Every good job what she initiated since her childhood , Jagya , DS everyone is doing that , not because she needed male support but because they realised and understood what she started was a right thing to do. So they willingly came forward.

Whoever is helping her is coming of their own and if it is acceptable she is not denying that.

But not in a single scene it is shown she is crying for any male support. The only male support she actually longs for is Shiv's support, even that she keep within herself, deeply buried in her heart, never cries in front of any one.. She talks to his photo , she gets the strength and her life goes on.



There is no point in going to back to Anandi's childhood or young adult days, because when people are children / young adults and still carving their identity, they need all kinds of support. Anandi also got that from Bhairon, Jagya, Shyam, Khajan and finally Shiv. No big deal.

So let's just stick to Anandi post Leap, because the actual concerns with Anandi are only post leap, where she is projected as a STRONG, INDEPENDENT single mother, but all we get to see is a Laid back, clingy, dependent, wallowing in self-pity Anandi.

Somedays she cries in Dsa's laps, other days, Jagya has to cheer her up. Anandi needs Jagya's help for running around with every small big decision of her life. If not Jagya, it is Anant. Help is coming to her because she always finds herself in some trouble and can't get out of it on her own. So it's a compulsion for others to solve her matters.  

She may love Shiv deeply, but Shiv is no more. He can't come down and solve her problems. And she is not able to sort out anything on her own. She needs Jagya or Anant every-time. All this proves that she needs that male support in her life. 

Having said that, I don't care if AnAn happens or not, but if it happens, I am ok with it.
Edited by Missesha - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: aparnauma

You are the one who said the views expressed in online forums do make a difference.

That is why I am asking you for statistics of people with internet access and among those with access who sit and express their displeasure over TV shows and characters so relentlessly day after day and the ones who express their dislike once in a while and probably move on to another show or what ever that catches their interest.

Don't know if writers ever visit this forum - But if they decide to visit this forum they sure will be flattered to see how much attention people shower on their show even when they claim to be bored with the show and don't find it interesting anymore.πŸ˜›πŸ˜†

So on what basis are you coming to conclusion that people don't care about Anandi or this show? Just based on a few opinions expressed on line that too in a country where internet access is limited when compared to TV owning households how right is to conclude that people don't care?



Sorry, but you sound confused to me. On  one end you are saying Internet opinions do not matter,  and on other end you are questioning, how many people have internet in their homes? Why question, when it doesn't matter, (according to  you)?

Besides, you staked a claim that those who do not like Anandi are ONLY a Minority, so I questioned what is the basis of your statement and you gave goofed up answers. 

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I still say that internet views matter and therefore I post my discontentment in IF in order to see some more logic in the show. I also recently saw some difference.  But the moment we post discontentment, you go around lecturing everywhere on how people should stop watching the show if they dislike it, instead of posting their views on IF.

Ironically, You keep writing pages yourself, and then advise others against writing on forums, stating "No-One Cares". If no one indeed cares, what brings you to IF, so religiously?

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I think I have said all that I had to. I am finding your arguments too confusing to even debate. Good luck to you. Happy for you to enjoy the show. 


Edited by Missesha - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Missesha

There is no point in going to back to Anandi's childhood or young adult days, because when people are children / young adults and still carving their identity, they need all kinds of support. Anandi also got that from Bhairon, Jagya, Shyam, Khajan and finally Shiv. No bid deal.

So let's just stick to Anandi post Leap, because the actual concerns with Anandi are only post leap, where she is projected as a STRONG, INDEPENDENT single mother, but all we get to see is a Laid back, clingy, dependent, wallowing in self-pity Anandi.

Somedays she cries in Dsa's laps, other days, Jagya has to cheer her up. Anandi needs Jagya's help for running around with every small big decision of her life. If not, Jagya, it is Anant. Help is coming to her because she always finds herself in some trouble and can't get out of it on her own. So it's a compulsion for others to solve her matters.  

She may love Shiv deeply, but Shiv is no more. He can't come down and solve her problems. And she is not able to sort out anything on her own. She needs Jagya or Anant every-time. All this proves that she needs that male support in her life. 

Having said that, I don't care if AnAn happens or not, but if it happens, I am ok with it.



i have gone back to those days because that time also she never asked for any male support.

The support came because those people believed that what she is doing is right but she never waited for their support to come.

Post leap you find her like that . Single mother does not mean you have to stay alone. She is staying with her DS. If you are still stuck in ex mode, then nothing can be said because the story has moved on from there.

In this 11 years she could manage to establish such a big institution called Shiv Niketan without any male support.

Nowhere did they show Jagya has helped her in this. In one hand people say such a big institution needs whole time supervision , so she has not searched her daughter. On other hand they say she is laid back.

She did both searching her daughter, following up with police, running to stop child marriages,  spreading awareness about this system in nearby villagers, going to meet ministers for her school projects. Never did they showed she is crying for male support. Even crying for Shiv. Shiv is always there in her heart.

Dependent ? Where?

Wallowing in self pity? the lady does not have right to cry for her child?

After getting her child too she is thinking about the other lady that how it may hurt her. Why cant she even cry on her DS's shoulder when she feels low? How does it make her wallowing in self pity? For our parents and grand parents we are still small in front of them even if we are in our 40's

Its DS who sent Jagya to her. She was alone in her room. Which mother wouldnt feel low? But that does not mean she needed any male support.

Dont we need friends,  family member's words when we feel low? Does that make someone weak ? She can drive everyone alone. She never requested anyone to come with her. They are coming (infact they dont have anything else to do , how CVs will show them otherwise) of their own for DRIVING THE CARπŸ˜†. For all problems she handles of her own. I have not seen anyone else is solving her problem.

Problem is there is everyone's life. Its her story so obviously we will see her problems. Her all problems now is because of her enmity with Akheraj. Rest Shivam is such a well brought up kid.

So I completely disagree that she constantly needs male support. Those males have taken her support once, got help from her so they come forward BUT SHE NEVER ASKED THEM or IT WAS NEVER SHOWN she longs for any male support


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Posted: 8 years ago
Why anandi cant have emotional support .she is afterall human being not goddess that she can manage everything all alone and and it is natural to have emotinal support when one cant decide what is right path
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: surabhi01

Why anandi cant have emotional support .she is afterall human being not goddess that she can manage everything all alone and and it is natural to have emotinal support when one cant decide what is right path



Obviously she needs emotional support and so she comes to DS. But it is wrong actually demeaning to say she always needs male support.

Taking emotional support from family , friend does not make anyone weak. Single parent does not mean staying alone
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Posted: 8 years ago
Agree sushmita and it is not morally wrong if single mother not staying alone .which book say that single mother bound to stay alone
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: hisusmita



Obviously she needs emotional support and so she comes to DS. But it is wrong actually demeaning to say she always needs male support.

Taking emotional support from family , friend does not make anyone weak. Single parent does not mean staying alone

Precisely, everyone needs emotional support and so does Anandi. So why is it wrong if Anandi marries for the third time?
Are people expecting that she stays with DSa and Jagya (hex Ex) forever? 

Why is it, that people do not want Anandi to leave Shiv or his memories and move on with another guy, but it is absolutely ok for them if Anandi lives with her ex-husband and his family.

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Posted: 8 years ago
Anandi start adul education without young male support she fought for sarpanch without male support after marriage she take support from shiv afteall he is her husband and after death of shiv how many men comes in anandi life that anandi need male support
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: hisusmita



i have gone back to those days because that time also she never asked for any male support.

The support came because those people believed that what she is doing is right but she never waited for their support to come.

Post leap you find her like that . Single mother does not mean you have to stay alone. She is staying with her DS. If you are still in stuck in ex mode, then nothing can be said because the story has moved on from there.

In this 11 years she could managed to establish such a big institution called Shiv Niketan without any male support.

Nowhere did they show Jagya has helped her in this. In one hand people say such a big institution needs whole time supervision , so she has not searched her daughter. On other hand they say she is laid back.

She did both searching her daughter, following up with police, running to stop child marriage,  spreading awareness about this system in nearby villagers, going to meet ministers for her school projects. Never did they showed she is crying for male support. Even crying for Shiv. Shiv is always there in her heart.

Dependent ? Where?

Wallowing in self pity? the lady does not have right to cry for her child?

After getting her child too she is thinking about the other lady that how it may hurt her. Why cant she even cry on her DS's shoulder when she feels low? How does it make her wallowing in self pity?

Its DS who sent Jagya to her. She was alone in her room. Which mother wouldnt feel low? But that does not mean she needed any male support.

Dont we need friends,  family members words when we feel low? Does that make someone weak ? She can drive everyone alone. She never requested anyone to come with her. They are coming (infact they dont have anything else to do , how CVs will show them otherwise) of their own. For all problems she handles of her own. I have not seen anyone else is solving her problem.

Problem is there is everyone's life. Its her story so obviously we will see her problems. Her all problems now is because of her enmity with Akheraj. Rest Shivam is such a well brought up kid.

So I completely disagree that she constantly needs male support. Those males have taken her support once, got help from her so they come forward BUT SHE NEVER ASKED THEM or IT WAS NEVER SHOWN she longs for any male support


Susmita there is no point in arguing with people who are stuck on ex husband mode. πŸ˜›
In what was shown in the show Anandi herself said that she had forgotten that Jagya was her husband once upon a time.She has moved on from her first marriage and decided to dump the husband and carry only the good part of that period the good being her goodfriend Jagya.
She moved on so far from the marriage with Jagya that she even danced at his wedding anniversary party celebrating his togetherness with his current wife.

People keep harping about support.What they don't understand is no one can help someone who doesn't want to help themselves.

Her education didn't need Singhs money she did it from home while doing house work teaching in school.
Her school got government aid later on and that was the result of her work 

Udaipur time her work was mainly through Bhaili which went on to become a voice for peoplelike Chanda.Chanda the oppressed woman became Anandi'sright hand person.All thanks to Anandi Chanda and her associates were in fact exporting their products but that will be ignored.

Post leap from what we saw of her work it is quite obvious that Nidhi heard about Anandi'swork and so came to her. 
Even all those child marriages which she stopped people were reporting about those  marriages to her because they got to know about her through her work. 
Sandhya teacher sent her student over to Anandi because she knew the kind of work that Anandi had been doing.

As for searching for her child she had been doing it for 11 years unsuccessfullying but the police case is still open after 11 years it is because of her efforts 

Eventually when the child was found it was because of Jagya's own work and not like he was helping her find her child.He found an unclaimed child thru the course of his work and the child happened to be Anandi's. 
Anandi never asked Anant for any help it was he who wanted to help her. 

Jagya talked to her because Dsa asked him to talk to Anandi. She didn't go crying to Jagya. 
Dsa did the same for Jagya also.Didn't she ring up Anandi and cry? 

All the people who are coming to help her now were helped by her in the past. 
They are coming to help her because she was with them when they were going thru testing times in life.

Among the peoplewho are trying to help her there is not a single person whom she had not helped.

So where is the question of her needing constant support? 

If Anandi is a failed mother her son wouldn'tbe looking up to her for emotional needs.

But people will see only what they want to see.