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Posted: 10 years ago
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wow Aani...👏👏👏 couldn't stop myself from commenting, superb post. everyone has written abt romi here ruby, radz, ohgod (sorry dont know ur name,) remya but u have jst explained why Romi is like that...maa ka laadla bigad gaya...
Aani by any chance do u hold a phsycology degree😉 and what to say abt our 2 dhakkans who r hiding behind veils of insecurities, rejections. I love reading anything written abt them. Superbly written gals everyone. Each one of u have wrtten an unique point... I think the saying shld be TOO MANY COOKS DO NOT SPOIL THE BROTH😉😉😉. The more the merrier.

Ruby loved the title...u always come up with right ones. Queen of CTD AND NUANCES😉😉.

Loved ur post radz, Ohgod, remya, Ganbarun (love ur quotes and caps nd the short and sweet things u write.

Have I left out anyone??, 😲😲

And ruby u r not sending the PMs of ur post😭😭😭? Waiting for ur KC post, kab aayega 7:30 pm...

Shilpa
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Finally edited on page 1 😳

Aani...wonderful post.
The family background that you depicted was amazing. The explanation for the equation with Ishita stole my heart yaar.
That was accurate . I was guessing for many days that this could be the reason for his split behaviour with Ishita. But not well as you explained Aani. Was pondering over for the correct explanations. And now i got it.
This was a product of true analysis. Am happy that you took time. Waiting for this was a pleasure fore now.
wonderful post Aani.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: GanBarunFan

Wonderful write ups by Thithlidhost, Bhuvna and remya1990!!👏


Thithlidhost I also hope the last paragraph of your post comes true...Loved how you defined each of their personal spaces within the confines of their common place: their bedroom👏


Waiting for the others' posts😃


Thanks for liking my reflection on Ruby's post.🤗



Thank you.
your' was also a post that i enjoyed dear.
may i know your name please
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Posted: 10 years ago
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FANTABULOUS post Aani...beautifully written. ...

ITS WORTH THE WAIT... UMMA...
THNK u .



@KRIkumar.91..ur post was very much coherent. ...
ur take on this topic was quite unique...
ESP..

Angry young man, Raman Kumar Bhalla is nowhere lesser than his younger brother who is running away from the love of his life... his wife, Ishita. Romi did the same by using that unborn child as his shield and this man is using his past as a veil...

loved it...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Will read other replies soon and comment on the same...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shidin0117

I am😡mad at my laptop and Google chrome..

I had written so much abt every one's post here and suddenly it closed😡grinding my teeth. Again I have to retype, better I will use notepad ...sorry guys will post my comments tommorrow.




I was waiting 4 ur comment on this post...
actually forgot ur name...sorry...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Aani, Radz, GanBarunFan, Bhuvana, Remya... Loved those replies... Thanks a lot for that...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: krikumar.91

That was another brilliant post from your side. As usual, I'm going to take full liberty in replying to this post which might not relate to your topic as it is. I'm going to bring that topic which is being discussed in this forum forever...Mani.

Ishita entered Raman's life in that phase when he was about to lose everything as a nerdy Raman even after gaining everything as a alpha male. Ishita gathered all those remnant pieces of that nerdy man...without any conscious effort and assembled the first piece by sealing his relationship with Ruhi. Slowly, she gathered all the pieces together and gave life to nerdy Raman again... This time, he chose to hide behind his altar personality. This journey towards confession is going to make him come out... I wanted to mention that again because we are moving towards the same...

When Romi's track came into picture, usual history of YHM asked me to read between the lines when the track was staring at my face. As of now, I'm not sure if we are going to be surprised by cv's again but as you said, all roads lead to Ishra and now, we are moving in that direction...

As of now, Romi is shown as a immature guy who is afraid of shouldering his responsibilities. But, Romi is not alone. Other immature souls portraying themselves as mature are going to face the harsh reality while making Romi the mistake that he has committed... Romi wants to dump Sarika now. Question is would Romi do the same if Sarika was not pregnant? My answer is no. Rather than Sarika, its that unborn kid which is making him shun Sarika, his love... Sarika definitely has a special place in Romi's heart and he's refusing to accept the same. Maybe, this is some genetic issue with Bhallas. Moving to the other part of the story,

Angry young man, Raman Kumar Bhalla is nowhere lesser than his younger brother who is running away from the love of his life... his wife, Ishita. Romi did the same by using that unborn child as his shield and this man is using his past as a veil... When this track gets its closure, both these tracks which is going to converge will give two mature characters to this show. Master stroke... Hats off to the writer...

Many Ishra fans find it difficult to deal with Mani's presence. But, this rude awakening is needed. Raman must face this insecurity to step into this new life...without turning back. But, as many of them asked, why should that person be Mani? Couldn't Ishita and Raman realize the same on their own? No is the answer. Quest for knowledge is that pivot of the wheel which keeps pushing us to learn more in this journey of life. Same is the case here. Till Raman and Ishita feel that need and urge to take their relationship forward, this love story can never find its destination. Mani is making them feel that need, nothing else. But for this guy, this budding relationship would have reached a stagnation point where these souls would have made peace with status quo... i.e., they complete each other. Because of the entry of a third person in this equation with a similar baggage like Raman (Single father with two kids), this story got its turning point. More than Ishita, Raman has a complicated past which is casting its evil shadow on his present. This man is definitely needed...

If we remember that first kiss, we wouldn't bash Mani... He's a catalyst. That's all...

Raman's Karwachauth vrat is not just a role reversal of Ishita's Varalakshmi vrat but it also marks the beginning of a new track where role reversal is going to happen again... Role reversal between that Ishita whom we saw in the accident track with the Raman whom we are going to see now...

Done with my rantings... Thanks for putting up with this messy incoherent piece of writing...




Kri i took a break from the forum & from YHM the moment i closed my lappU on saturday night .. KK made me watch the promo & only one PM i responded to that of HAA ..

Imagine getting up fresh in the morning on monday & reading this absolutely wonderful piece .. what can i say ... if this is messy & incoherence .. i would love to read coherence .. this is absolutely wonderful ..

Its crisp & way way way lucid ... this does not veer from topic .. This is what i would call straight & Sharp & absolutely to the point ..

Brilliant one girl ...

This review hit me absolutely right .. there was no flower .. there was hard hitting facts which spoke the take ... according to me.. its ur best one YET ... but i am sure ur gonna trump this one soon ..

TAKE A BOW GIRL ..

every character introduced in the show .. specially one that gets so much screen space & build up .. is surely here for a purpose as u rightly pointed out .. Mani too has a purpose ...
Its not that Raman is incapable of fighting his battles .. its about Raman is NOT ALONE ... anymore ... thats probably what the writers are showing us from this ..

The man who for the last 6 years stood alone & fought .. today by just adding one element to his life .. ISHITA IYER .. has not only come into the bosom of his loving family ... he has suddenly got a coterie of people walking behind him ...

I loved that u equated the promo with the accident track .. or atleast the parallels that ran there .. i did mention just a couple of days back .. this would be the redemption track for Raman .. & yes this man had a lot to redeem himself for ...

I for one ... will never forget the episode when he walked out of the hotel with Shagun in his arms .. & did not even by a gesture acknowledge Ishita ... if not for anything else as a wife as woman i would want a redemption for this..

At that time she stood watching him hold his past close to his heart .. this time (as per promo .. not necessary the scene will play out in same way) he will have to see her clutch her past close to her heart ..
Both of them have moved away from the past in reality .. the past held no meaning for them .. but its the interpretation of the sight ..

theres a very interesting similarity & difference in the two .. hope someone can point that out .. if not will explain when the scene plays out ..

PHEW .. a congratulatory message which became a post 😛😛😛

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ThithliDhost

Beautiful post as always Ruby! 👏How nicely you have captured the highlights of last two weeks episode, under the title The VEIL & THE Shadow. 😊

When some lines helped me to understand the characters better, some helped me to see where the story may be heading. Connecting the dots, Points to ponder, being little more open minded about characters was my take away from this post.

Romy not negative, just an immature, irresponsible person.

There, to me that line beautifully explained Romy. To me that is exactly who Romy is. An immature, irresponsible, misguided young man.

Romy is just not a spoit brat. He is also a loving brother, dewar and son. We have seen him respecting his bhabhi, fighting for her honor, supporting her

In her missions, and being there for her when his brother couldn't. He is all for his family, when he is not busy doing his KANDs.. He loves his family, respects his elders and is with them when going gets tough.

Even in todays episode, I could see this character of his reflected. How he was with the family celebrating the festival, how he was playing with Ruhi and how he came forward to congrats his brother on his success. He was not sulking in a corner. He was not mad enough at his brother not to express his happiness..on his success. This is the Romy I like. This is the Romy, I feel, if guided well, supported well will grow up to a fine man. A man that the family will be proud of!

I sometimes feel, Romy is the way he is because of his family. The incidents that happened when he was at his teenage. His then bhabhi choosing money,power over relations, his mother always bad mouthing girls, his brother busy making money, leaving behind his daughter, his responsibility...all this may have clouded his sense of right and wrong. His behaviour/ thots/ perception IMO have started refining since Ishitha entered his life.


After lots of pondering,

You know I feel, what Sarika saw in Romy is just not him. It is the family that he belongs to. Its the stability that family projected. Its Raman & ishitha, its the complete package.. She believed once she is accepted she will finally get that stability, support and love that she yearned for. She will also be part of a family..she believed Romy will stand up for her.

But once again her hopes were trashed. She was left to fight her own case. Ppl whom she thot will stand by her, according to her failed to do so.

So she now has taken help from the only source who offered it to her.. Asoaka..

Ruby, I like how you ended the section about sarika, quoting it here.

"The layers of false will erode one by one & the real faces will come out & show themselves .. the conclusion of this track will see a small twist ... & then the matter will resolve itself as a moot point "

I really hope the matter will resolve itself as a moot point.. I donot think Romi or Sarika are ready for a family/ married life.



Very nice Radz ...

I like the way u have written about Sarika & Romi here .. lets for the sake of simple discussion bring this topic up .. i am marking ur post .. but its for al the readers here .. this is not at all a rebuttal to ur post its just a start to the discussion & food for thot ...

A lot has been written about Romi's assumed past .. now let me ask a few questions here ...
Where in his past was he taught to misbehave with women ... not respect women ...
His total respect for the women he KNOWS .. Pammi aunty included shows in his upbringing he was only taught RESPECT ...

But he was also a product of an OVER INDULGENT PARENT & OVER INDULGENT SIBS ... his brother chose to give him money for tuitions .. pots of money so much so that he was able to buy professors ... with the same ... but never once made an attempt to ASK HIM TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT MONEY ... what was the result .. a lack of accountability made him commit a crime .. yes its a crime to bribe a professor & leak exam papers ..

The scene u mentioned about yesterdays episode .. this guy has as off now RUINED THE LIFE OF A GIRL ... i was amazed to see him sit so casually in the living room of the house .. .. yet again his mother & brother have INDULGED HIM .. they are fighting his battles for him .. where is the ACCOUNTABILITY ... had Raman really left him to FEND for himself .. he would not be sitting in the bosom of his family laughing .. he would actually be running pillar to post to defend himself .. or actually FACE UP TO HIS RESPONSIBILITY ..

Now lets equate this with RAMAN .. similarly .. had this family not taken RUHI under their wing & would've forced RAMAN to face up to his responsibility . this small child would not have suffered for 6 years of abandonment .. Raman also needed to learn ACCOUNTABILITY .. which ISHITA forcefully made him face ... She made him accountable to every time he shunned his daughter .. by simply taking away his daughter from him .. she publicly rebuked him & challenged him to change his ways .. a rude awakening ... he hated her for it .. but it was also the much needed dose for the father to stand up & be accountable .. he chose to bring life to ruHi & he was responsible for the same ..

This is about standing & accepting ur mistakes ... even after all this the GUY has not said he is WRONG .. even during the Mihika MMS thing .. he said Mihir slapped him so he made an MMS .. his friends leaked the same .. very nicely shrugging responsibilty ...

About Sarika .. i loved the highlighted points ... its perfect to me ..
She needs to stand up & say i will be the HERO for myself .. & that will happen when she realises yet again how she was USED by ASHOK KHANNA ... every time she looks for an anchor or leans on an anchor the anchor has feet of clay .. she needs to realise this & stand up & face up to her actions .. cause Romi was right in one thing ... HE WAS NOT ALONE in CREATING THAT LIFE ... she was equally responsible ...


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: GanBarunFan

Thank you Ruby for this post...I missed your last week's post.

The shadow of anyone's past influences the veil behind which individuals take shelter to fend themselves from going through those similar experiences. It's for self-preservation...because if lifted, it exposes the scab of the wound. But sometimes, that is the only way to heal a wound.

Similarly each of us reacts to situations based on our past experiences. Loved how you laid out present behavior of the current players in YHM vis a vis their history, their upbringing. And all the behavior are direct result of their past.

Love how you have connected the lifting of veil in the main protagonists' life with the sieve of KC...👏 Can't wait for the monday post.

I love how you write...you pick the grain from the chaff and lay it out in a way that explains the chaos that sometimes YHM creates, especially in the current situation where multiple parallel tracks are running. Sometimes it befuddles the mind, especially given how sometimes scenes are left upto viewer interpretation. Thank you for that.

I'm so glad you tied the events of the past two weeks together as there was lot of mixed reactions from the viewers because of some confusing episodes, poor execution...and too much Ashok🤢 (which leads to a lot of FF on my part.)

Wish you had a regular post...but I know you discuss regularly in the LU thread...but as it's work hours for me as also my habit of trying to create a post which is a reflection of my own understanding, I dont go to the main forum until I update my post. I love to read the different perspectives here, it always enriches a viewer experience for me.

Lovely as always...your writing...your thoughts..



Thank u Gan ... 🤗

I am always wondering .. if people really get my posts .. & then i read a comments like this & feel heartened .. yea u guys do get it

Thank u .. about the sieve & Blurred images ..
i Worte this on a day when romance was in the air .,. was worried if people will get it since it was a little on the sad & serious tone .. must've asked a million times on LU .. shud i do this .. UGH ... because i really did not want to ruin the romance in the air .. so while i toned it down .. i kept the message as ... BLURRED IMAGE ...

I also wrote this one day before the promo came out ... honestly did not know ... the PH would follow with this message so soon & that my post would be so on time ..

I used the image of the first KC ... cause that was the first time they tried connecting the dots which were visible from the sieve of the person standing in front of them ..
its the first time she realises how much this man can do for her .. its the first time he realises how much she can do for him ...

But the image was dotted ... dotted with the insecurities of the past ...

Tonite it will be about BLURRED IMAGES PART 2 ...

Once again a veil will lift itself .. only to drop itself down .. when the image is viewed thru a dotted sieve ... 😳.. but more on that tonite .. ...


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