grappling with the king, biting and scratching him,

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European sources.Niccolao Manucci, originally from
Venice, arrived in India in 1656 at the inauguration of Aurangzeb's rule and,from street bazaar gossip & court whispers, devised an elaborate account
of Nur Jahan's hold over her husband Jahangir.

as per Manucci noted
'' Nur Jahan succeeded in getting Jahangir to agree to drink less, down to nine cupfuls, as long as they were offered by her own hand. The report continued, however, by describing what would happen when Jahangir wanted more and Nur Jahan held the line:
"When he saw that the queen would not give ear to his words,
he fell into a passion, laid hold of the queen and scratched her, she
doing the same on her side, grappling with the king, biting and scratching
him, and no one dared to separate them."





Mughal Painting '' Lovers Embracing '' ca 1615, said to be NurJahan & Jahangir
pic credit jodah ⭐️

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Kambakth ishq hai jo, saara jahaan hai voh Kab aata hai, kab jaata hai Par rehta hai jab tak yeh kambakth jannat dikhaata hai 😉 😆

this song is plaing in my earphones & quite suits the story & i'm grining reading your post 😆 hail to manucci the gossip men

Res 😛 sorry i'm on mobile can't write much

Un Res 😊

Manucci account are always sorrounded by controversies with some of the blunders 😆 like he said akbar was born in persia but akbar was born in sindh etc but still many writers quote manucci accounts &

this account you mentioned have orignal support from jahangirnama

in the memoirs for the year 1621 jahangir him self credit & appriciate Nur Jahan that she acted as a personal physician to him 😉 jahangir said '' Her(Nur Jahan) skill and experience are greater than those of the physicians... She by degrees, lessened my wine, and kept me from things that did not suit me, and food that disagreed with me."

the man himself admiring her wife with pride 😳 & it's said you can't make a addictor quit so easily so chances are there such things happened behind the walls 😉 most of the historians says Nur Jahan Jahangir shared a very intimate relationship 😉 the duo was a

romantic couple too 😳
we have a eye witness too 😉 Thomas Roe presents a charming picture of Jahangir and Nur Jahan returning to the camp one night from a romantic bullock-cart ride all by themselves ...
Roe was in the royal courtyard, waiting for Jahangir, when "suddenly news came to put out all lights, the King was come, who entered on an open wagon, with Normahall, & a vow by bullocks, himself carter, and no man near." 😳

anything which is given to Nur Jahan by Jahangir given with so much love & honour 😳
the title Nur Jahan which is given to his beloved wife Mehrunnisa derived from Emperor Nurudin Jahangir own name ❤️

the coins which are stuck with Nur Jahan name carry the following lines 😳
Persian Lines
Ba Hukm Shah Jahangir yaft sad zewer,Banam Noor Jahan Badshah Begum zara

Translation
By the order of Jahangir, gold attained a hundred times its beauty when the name of Nur Jahan, the First Lady of the court was impressed upon it.

From right side Nur Jahan name is written on 1st & 3rd coin

From right side Jahangir name is written on the 2nd & 4rth coin

i love reading & talking about Nur ❤️

Edited by jodah - 11 years ago
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Kaise hai Ishq hai..! 😳
Thanks for sharing ..! 😳
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This maccuni i am not sure what he wrote some street gossip
What i read in accounts is this
Jehangir loved drinking and once evening he was sitting with nur jahan listening to some music concert. During the musical recital he got angry with Nur Jahan because she was speaking against someone(i guess khurram). Jehangir objected to it but Nur Jahan continued speaking and Jehangir got angry and slapped her.
Immediately Nur Jahan slapped him back. Jehangir was shocked initially and even musicians stopped playing. Jehangir got angry and held her by hair and she was angry and pounced on him and literally after sometime both were rolling on ground pulling each others hair and fist fights. The musicians and maids, body gaurds had no idea what to do. After sometime both realized what was happening and stopped. Then both laughed and Jehangir commented they were just reliving their childhood days 😆😆😆 and to continue with the music and food etc both adjusted their hair and dress and continued with the evening as if nothing had happened.
I am not sure about what this traveller wrote but this versiion i read looks more authentic
After this this incident spread like wild fire across agra and everyone speaking about it. So when jehangir heard nobels speaking about it he said they were mistaken he and nur jahan were playing passing the slap game that night 😆😆😆
Jehangir is so dumb he could have simply told like today's politicans "This is all lie, nothing like this ever happened" 😆😆 or "Oh really, i just heard it now? When did we both slap and fight with each other, these are all rumors and some idol minds gossip. Get me a wittness" 😲😲 which maid, bodygaurd, musician would dare come and give witness
After that only kids started playing it on streets and passing the slap later passing the ball etc games started in agra 😆😆😆
Ok Jehangir was in his 50s and Nur jahan 40s when this happened 😆😆😆
Edited by myviewprem - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

This maccuni i am not sure what he wrote some street gossip

What i read in accounts is this
Jehangir loved drinking and once evening he was sitting with nur jahan listening to some music concert. During the musical recital he got angry with Nur Jahan because she was speaking against someone(i guess khurram). Jehangir objected to it but Nur Jahan continued speaking and Jehangir got angry and slapped her.
Immediately Nur Jahan slapped him back. Jehangir was shocked initially and even musicians stopped playing. Jehangir got angry and held her by hair and she was angry and pounced on him and literally both were rolling on ground pulling each others hair and fist fights. The musicians and maids, body gaurds had no idea what to do. After sometime both realized what was happening and stopped. Then both laughed and Jehangir commented they were just reliving their childhood days 😆 and to continue with the music and food etc both adjusted their hair and dress and continued with the evening as if nothing had happened.
I am not sure about what this travelled wrote but this versiion i read looks more authentic



😲 really 😆 what an amazing couple they were it looked both really love each other & don't care the surrounding to show there feelings😳
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

This maccuni i am not sure what he wrote some street gossip

What i read in accounts is this
Jehangir loved drinking and once evening he was sitting with nur jahan listening to some music concert. During the musical recital he got angry with Nur Jahan because she was speaking against someone(i guess khurram). Jehangir objected to it but Nur Jahan continued speaking and Jehangir got angry and slapped her.
Immediately Nur Jahan slapped him back. Jehangir was shocked initially and even musicians stopped playing. Jehangir got angry and held her by hair and she was angry and pounced on him and literally both were rolling on ground pulling each others hair and fist fights. The musicians and maids, body gaurds had no idea what to do. After sometime both realized what was happening and stopped. Then both laughed and Jehangir commented they were just reliving their childhood days 😆 and to continue with the music and food etc both adjusted their hair and dress and continued with the evening as if nothing had happened.
I am not sure about what this travelled wrote but this versiion i read looks more authentic


Prem write more about them please ☺️ OMG , Nur Jahan and Jehangir were really aggressive , childish yet so comfortable and familiar with each other 😆😳❤️ "We were reliving our childhood days" said Jehangir 🤣🤣 Now , I know from where you got inspired for your FF : Jashn e bahara 😉😆😆 I want to watch such lovestory 😳❤️ Not Pranam , Pranam , agya dijiye or whatever else 😕🥱 Hope that they gonna make a show over Jehangir and Nur Jahan's story (relationship especially 😆😆) but no EK to be producer of it please 🥱🥱 Otherwise , such beautiful and alive story's characters gonna be mercilessly butchered by her SBS natkiye rupantar crap 🤢🤢 and it gonna be untastable as the current show of JA which could have been shown and characters could have been portrayed in a totally different 100000000 much better way 🥺🥱 *sigh*
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Originally posted by: roshanehkhan



😲 really 😆 what an amazing couple they were it looked both really love each other & don't care the surrounding to show there feelings😳

Yep since both knew each other from childhood they did not get offended because they hitt each other in public jehangir was clever he said they wanted to relive their childhood days 😆 how else could he justify nur jahan's attack on him 😆😆😆
i am sure nur jahan must have fought with him before also else she would not get so brave to slap him back and literally pounce on him in front of so many people. Its more like kids fighting in childhood fistfight, scratch, slap and pulling hairsss 😆😆😆 truly reliving childhood days in their 40s and 50s. how many can really dare do that? That too a person as great as emperor. I appreciate jehangir here he did not punish her although he became a butt of joke for daysss. if some other man/emperor he would have beheaded wife or some punishment gauranteed to save their false honour 👏👏👏
Even in 21st century men never take it if wife shouts, hits back in public although they can hit, shout, humiliate anything taken for granted
Edited by myviewprem - 11 years ago
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Omigod , is this for true 😲 ...tfs 😆
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

This maccuni i am not sure what he wrote some street gossip

What i read in accounts is this
Jehangir loved drinking and once evening he was sitting with nur jahan listening to some music concert. During the musical recital he got angry with Nur Jahan because she was speaking against someone(i guess khurram). Jehangir objected to it but Nur Jahan continued speaking and Jehangir got angry and slapped her.
Immediately Nur Jahan slapped him back. Jehangir was shocked initially and even musicians stopped playing. Jehangir got angry and held her by hair and she was angry and pounced on him and literally after sometime both were rolling on ground pulling each others hair and fist fights. The musicians and maids, body gaurds had no idea what to do. After sometime both realized what was happening and stopped. Then both laughed and Jehangir commented they were just reliving their childhood days 😆😆😆 and to continue with the music and food etc both adjusted their hair and dress and continued with the evening as if nothing had happened.
I am not sure about what this traveller wrote but this versiion i read looks more authentic
After this this incident spread like wild fire across agra and everyone speaking about it. So when jehangir heard nobels speaking about it he said they were mistaken he and nur jahan were playing passing the slap game that night 😆😆😆
Jehangir is so dumb he could have simply told like today's politicans "This is all lie, nothing like this ever happened" 😆😆 or "Oh really, i just heard it now? When did we both slap and fight with each other, these are all rumors and some idol minds gossip. Get me a wittness" 😲😲 which maid, bodygaurd, musician would dare come and give witness
After that only kids started playing it on streets and passing the slap later passing the ball etc games started in agra 😆😆😆
Ok Jehangir was in his 50s and Nur jahan 40s when this happened 😆😆😆

wow childish couple plz write some more about them.He loves and torments his childhood sweet hearts actions.😆
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Originally posted by: roshanehkhan

European sources.Niccolao Manucci, originally from
Venice, arrived in India in 1656 at the inauguration of Aurangzeb's rule and,from street bazaar gossip & court whispers, devised an elaborate account
of Nur Jahan's hold over her husband Jahangir.

as per Manucci noted
'' Nur Jahan succeeded in getting Jahangir to agree to drink less, down to nine cupfuls, as long as they were offered by her own hand. The report continued, however, by describing what would happen when Jahangir wanted more and Nur Jahan held the line:
"When he saw that the queen would not give ear to his words,
he fell into a passion, laid hold of the queen and scratched her, she
doing the same on her side, grappling with the king, biting and scratching
him, and no one dared to separate them."





Mughal Painting '' Lovers Embarassing '' ca 1615, said to be NurJahan & Jahangir
pic credit jodah ⭐️

wow! 17th century king ka jawab nahi😉But roshanehkhan, was that embracing or embarrasing😆

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