HB gets hint of saazish by MA

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Mujhe bas jala ruq andaham jalal scenes nhi n dekhne isliye I am scared of him going alone

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Hi everyone,

This is what I wrote to Maddy on Mansi's thread before watching the episode today. I am pasting it here because it seems related to precap. Jalal seems like he is going back to Agra for the sake of his people. Maybe he's been recalled on an urgent basis.

I think both have analyzed and overanalyzed the Night. Now they need to put that behind them and decide what they want to do moving forward. They cannot continue to evade the real world for long. Jalal especially will need to get back to Agra pretty soon. Before that, they have to talk and decide whether they want to get together or stay separately.

Yes, Jalal took time to get over the dhakka. But they were together in Agra then. And he could afford that time. Now they are away from Agra and he can ill afford to stay away any longer. So either Jodha will have to make up her mind fast or they will have to decide to be apart till such time as she is ready to take a decision. But as I mentioned to Mansi, the longer they stay apart, the harder it will be them to reconcile smoothly.

A middle path may be that Jodha is partially convinced enough to agree to return to Agra and Jalal continues the process of winning her trust there. (Which is very likely going to be the scenario with Shehnaz following Jodha around like Mary's little lamb.)

I know I don't sound very romantic but a king has to think in terms of his kingdom and his people also. He can't leave them at the mercy of his incompetent and traitorous family and associates.

I am not supporting Jalal here or saying Jodha doesn't deserve time to heal. What I'm saying is that she is not an ordinary housewife. She is a queen and has to think of her husband's responsibilities also. That is her tragedy. She doesn't have the luxury of taking her time and leaving the king hanging in limbo.

We also have overscrutinized the past. We also need to let go of the past and look ahead now and think how we want our leads to proceed next.

Please share your comments on this.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Radhika - if they do not talk tomorrow and the trust core issue for MU is not settled - Jodha should not go back.

Let him feel he said sorry done enough - he is not wrong in thinking that he said sorry and did it from heart - the problem here is that he is saying sorry from his guilt - not from real realization of what caused MU.

He will go back and again listen to his Badi Ammi and Ruk and do same thing again.

if he does not talk about trust tomorrow - let him go and get backstabbed by those he believes so much.

Then he will realize how wrongly he placed his trust and then he will realize the value of her.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: preetgurti
Mujhe bas jala ruq andaham jalal scenes nhi n dekhne isliye I am scared of him going alone

Me too! That's my worry too! Brainwashing will start the minute Jalal steps in Agra. 😡

That's why I DONT want him to go alone!

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

but now maybe HB wants him to return to handle MA, with or without Jo

I think the precap dialogue was his ego hurt, something like he held her hand and she pulled it out so he went after her fuming and then told her he has had enough - he said sorry but can't stand her guroor - even though he had promised HB he will not come back without Jodha, his promise to HB is not bigger than his duties to his awam. So he is going and says Khuda Hafiz. So let him go.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0
Hi everyone,

This is what I wrote to Maddy on Mansi's thread before watching the episode today. I am pasting it here because it seems related to precap. Jalal seems like he is going back to Agra for the sake of his people. Maybe he's been recalled on an urgent basis.

I think both have analyzed and overanalyzed the Night. Now they need to put that behind them and decide what they want to do moving forward. They cannot continue to evade the real world for long. Jalal especially will need to get back to Agra pretty soon. Before that, they have to talk and decide whether they want to get together or stay separately.

Yes, Jalal took time to get over the dhakka. But they were together in Agra then. And he could afford that time. Now they are away from Agra and he can ill afford to stay away any longer. So either Jodha will have to make up her mind fast or they will have to decide to be apart till such time as she is ready to take a decision. But as I mentioned to Mansi, the longer they stay apart, the harder it will be them to reconcile smoothly.

A middle path may be that Jodha is partially convinced enough to agree to return to Agra and Jalal continues the process of winning her trust there. (Which is very likely going to be the scenario with Shehnaz following Jodha around like Mary's little lamb.)

I know I don't sound very romantic but a king has to think in terms of his kingdom and his people also. He can't leave them at the mercy of his incompetent and traitorous family and associates.

I am not supporting Jalal here or saying Jodha doesn't deserve time to heal. What I'm saying is that she is not an ordinary housewife. She is a queen and has to think of her husband's responsibilities also. That is her tragedy. She doesn't have the luxury of taking her time and leaving the king hanging in limbo.

We also have overscrutinized the past. We also need to let go of the past and look ahead now and think how we want our leads to proceed next.

Please share your comments on this.

Radhika - if they do not talk tomorrow and the trust core issue for MU is not settled - Jodha should not go back.

Let him feel he said sorry done enough - he is not wrong in thinking that he said sorry and did it from heart - the problem here is that he is saying sorry from his guilt - not from real realization of what caused MU. So the core issue is remaining. What will happen in Agra if they go back like this. Jo is still hurt and Jalal will feel he got her back but not realize what caused the problem.

He will go back and again listen to his Badi Ammi and Ruk and do same thing again.

if he does not talk about trust tomorrow - let him go and get backstabbed by those he believes so much.

His awam is important to him let him go. Of course he should - the problem is entire track is waste cos after this big MU they are still at same level - no love no trust no faith and chance for another MU. What a waste!

Then he will realize how wrongly he placed his trust and then he will realize the value of her.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: MaddyO
Ok is it just me?! I liked the episode but WHERE IS THE TALK?????????

When everybody kept saying these 2 should talk - all we got was swords scene.

Jalal said sorry and love - what about trust? What about both of them talking about what happened and say sorry for causing hurt to the other!

Today for me seemed to be like trivializing everything they both went through!

I guess I need some wiser heads here to explain!

How does this get them back on trust and faith?

Maddy, the wise head u need is that of MV. She said it that Jo needs to take out all the hurt and anger in her system first. (and everyone was bashing this poor dear mother for siding with Jalal and not caring for Jo!) She also said that Jo will not hurt Jalal deliberately and that both JJ are burning - one in anger and the other in remorse. They have to get over their negative emotions and accept that they have a relationship whose fate they have to decide and decide fast.

Like I told you on Mansi's post, they are not ordinary mortals. They have a kingdom to which they are answerable, esp Jalal. How long can he stay away from his kingdom, leaving his people at the mercy of dubious people like MA?

Since Jo's mind is still struggling with her heart and seems like it will continue to struggle tomorrow also, it may happen that Bharmal may urge her to go to Agra with Jalal and tend to him there. She may follow Jalal reluctantly mentally because her heart cannot live without him. And the process of wooing her back may continue in Agra where simultaneously Jalal can also attend to his state affairs. Some past hidden truths may be exposed leading to greater trust between JJ.

In any case, if Jalal goes back, Jo has to go because she cannot learn that he trusts her, sitting in Amer. She has to learn it practically, living with him in Agra.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: Akanksha_33
[/DIV][BR][DIV]Me too! That's my worry too! Brainwashing will start the minute Jalal steps in Agra.[:x][/DIV][BR][DIV]That's why I DONT want him to go alone![/DIV]

me too aku n preet...but I hv faith on mayyia woh two units kharcha jyada din tak nahi karne wali...

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Radhika - if they do not talk tomorrow and the trust core issue for MU is not settled - Jodha should not go back.

Let him feel he said sorry done enough - he is not wrong in thinking that he said sorry and did it from heart - the problem here is that he is saying sorry from his guilt - not from real realization of what caused MU.

He will go back and again listen to his Badi Ammi and Ruk and do same thing again.

if he does not talk about trust tomorrow - let him go and get backstabbed by those he believes so much.

Then he will realize how wrongly he placed his trust and then he will realize the value of her.

Maddy even though if he says he trust her now wont repeat his mistake then also we are not sure how far jalal il stick to his words..everyitme he says to her i trust u the very next moment he suspects her..this is what is making thr relationship weak and allowing others to take advantage of it..the day he realises his weaness and his msitake only then he il be able to win her love and trust back...something is gonna happen maddy even if jalal goes to agra alone tmw..some thing will make or force jo to go back to agra..some one has predicted tha since hamida has followed maham she may get kidnapped in that case jo il go back to agra..if not also for hb' s sake jo il go back to agra..but wont forgive jalal..once agian jalal il try to win her trust and her love back...lets see .. but are stong headed life partners..kisi na kisi ko jhuk na to padega...i feel this time jo il bend to his wishes and goes back to amer but wont forgive him...

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preet

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Don't know somehow I feel she is going with him or she will go behind him and will stop him in midway only
coz jodha jala will come together n agra

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