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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO



I think the precap dialogue was his ego hurt, something like he held her hand and she pulled it out so he went after her fuming and then told her he has had enough - he said sorry but can't stand her guroor - even though he had promised HB he will not come back without Jodha, his promise to HB is not bigger than his duties to his awam. So he is going and says Khuda Hafiz. So let him go.



yes his ego was hurt..let him go and enjoy with his dear ones ...soon gonna get his lifes biggest chata on his face from his badi ammi...doodh ka karz...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: jiya.k

me too aku n preet...but I hv faith on mayyia woh two units kharcha jyada din tak nahi karne wali...


jiya waise bhi its maayiya thing how Mu happen then leads away then hit n miss then ruthna manana and then one episode main all end with confession
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Maddy, the wise head u need is that of MV. She said it that Jo needs to take out all the hurt and anger in her system first. (and everyone was bashing this poor dear mother for siding with Jalal and not caring for Jo!) She also said that Jo will not hurt Jalal deliberately and that both JJ are burning - one in anger and the other in remorse. They have to get over their negative emotions and accept that they have a relationship whose fate they have to decide and decide fast.

Like I told you on Mansi's post, they are not ordinary mortals. They have a kingdom to which they are answerable, esp Jalal. How long can he stay away from his kingdom, leaving his people at the mercy of dubious people like MA?

Since Jo's mind is still struggling with her heart and seems like it will continue to struggle tomorrow also, it may happen that Bharmal may urge her to go to Agra with Jalal and tend to him there. She may follow Jalal reluctantly mentally because her heart cannot live without him. And the process of wooing her back may continue in Agra where simultaneously Jalal can also attend to his state affairs. Some past hidden truths may be exposed leading to greater trust between JJ.

In any case, if Jalal goes back, Jo has to go because she cannot learn that he trusts her, sitting in Amer. She has to learn it practically, living with him in Agra.




Yes but see this is the IDEAL situation you are talking about. Jalal will woo her in Agra - he will learn MA truth etc.

What also might happen is Ruk again starts her bash Jo and insult again for Jalal going to get Jodha back.
MA till her truth comes out is all powerful again.

Jalal might be wooing her or might not - if he can tell her she is not listening due to guroor he said sorry genuinely but from guilt sorry - not really understand what caused the MU sorry.

If she is made to go with him, I want Jodha to totally ignore him. Do not go to him for any reason like she does - just be with Rahim, SB and HB.

Let him gets his backstabbbing to realize her value.

Else it might happen that Jodha does not go back with him cos he does not assure her he will trust her etc.

He goes back - gets full on treatment from MA & Ruk and thinks Jo has too much pride.
Then he starts getting MA and others truth and then realizes how much he misplaced his trust.

That will make him come back to take her back with assurances this time.

But that might mean long separation track!



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Posted: 11 years ago
Good night everybody! see you soon! 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Maddy, the wise head u need is that of MV. She said it that Jo needs to take out all the hurt and anger in her system first. (and everyone was bashing this poor dear mother for siding with Jalal and not caring for Jo!) She also said that Jo will not hurt Jalal deliberately and that both JJ are burning - one in anger and the other in remorse. They have to get over their negative emotions and accept that they have a relationship whose fate they have to decide and decide fast.

Like I told you on Mansi's post, they are not ordinary mortals. They have a kingdom to which they are answerable, esp Jalal. How long can he stay away from his kingdom, leaving his people at the mercy of dubious people like MA?

Since Jo's mind is still struggling with her heart and seems like it will continue to struggle tomorrow also, it may happen that Bharmal may urge her to go to Agra with Jalal and tend to him there. She may follow Jalal reluctantly mentally because her heart cannot live without him. And the process of wooing her back may continue in Agra where simultaneously Jalal can also attend to his state affairs. Some past hidden truths may be exposed leading to greater trust between JJ.

In any case, if Jalal goes back, Jo has to go because she cannot learn that he trusts her, sitting in Amer. She has to learn it practically, living with him in Agra.




well radhika...his ego was hurt in today's precap...and jo was hurt coz of his accusations..now who il take the first step...it has to be jalal..but we all know if his ego is hurt he il go to any extreme..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi everyone,

This is what I wrote to Maddy on Mansi's thread before watching the episode today. I am pasting it here because it seems related to precap. Jalal seems like he is going back to Agra for the sake of his people. Maybe he's been recalled on an urgent basis.

I think both have analyzed and overanalyzed the Night. Now they need to put that behind them and decide what they want to do moving forward. They cannot continue to evade the real world for long. Jalal especially will need to get back to Agra pretty soon. Before that, they have to talk and decide whether they want to get together or stay separately.

Yes, Jalal took time to get over the dhakka. But they were together in Agra then. And he could afford that time. Now they are away from Agra and he can ill afford to stay away any longer. So either Jodha will have to make up her mind fast or they will have to decide to be apart till such time as she is ready to take a decision. But as I mentioned to Mansi, the longer they stay apart, the harder it will be them to reconcile smoothly.

A middle path may be that Jodha is partially convinced enough to agree to return to Agra and Jalal continues the process of winning her trust there. (Which is very likely going to be the scenario with Shehnaz following Jodha around like Mary's little lamb.)

I know I don't sound very romantic but a king has to think in terms of his kingdom and his people also. He can't leave them at the mercy of his incompetent and traitorous family and associates.

I am not supporting Jalal here or saying Jodha doesn't deserve time to heal. What I'm saying is that she is not an ordinary housewife. She is a queen and has to think of her husband's responsibilities also. That is her tragedy. She doesn't have the luxury of taking her time and leaving the king hanging in limbo.

We also have overscrutinized the past. We also need to let go of the past and look ahead now and think how we want our leads to proceed next.
Please share your comments on this.


radhika very well said and it is the truth...how much ever we would have loved for them to be out of Agra but then when duty calls you cannot ignore it...he is the Emperor and he has responsibilities and he cannot turn away from them even if he heartbroken or hurt or ill...his people are his priority hence him going back to Agra is the way ...and thank you for making that dhakka part clearer coz even i was stuck in that time period...forgot that they we re in Agra hence had all the time in the world ...Jodha has to go to Agra coz she is his queen hence even her moral responsibility takes over her personal hurt and pain...now personally i would want her to go with him for him and them and not for some vachan or the neighbour's pet dog...she needs to go coz she is ready to lead the life in Agra with him and this is where we needed a conversation between them and where the cvs failed miserably...

the first half of the month they ensured Jalal was blamed and guilt ridden and now jodha is blamed ...they have no idea how to strike a balance or handle one single track with some maturity...if they wanted to copy the movie they should have blatantly done that without adding their illogical twists and turns

and completely avoided the Mathura track and jALAL bhatkoing ...they should have simply focussed in Amer and them...
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Posted: 11 years ago
Radhika u are right if she choose not to go with him kya hoga yaha ka haal
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO




Radhika - if they do not talk tomorrow and the trust core issue for MU is not settled - Jodha should not go back.

Let him feel he said sorry done enough - he is not wrong in thinking that he said sorry and did it from heart - the problem here is that he is saying sorry from his guilt - not from real realization of what caused MU. So the core issue is remaining. What will happen in Agra if they go back like this. Jo is still hurt and Jalal will feel he got her back but not realize what caused the problem.

He will go back and again listen to his Badi Ammi and Ruk and do same thing again.

if he does not talk about trust tomorrow - let him go and get backstabbed by those he believes so much.

His awam is important to him let him go. Of course he should - the problem is entire track is waste cos after this big MU they are still at same level - no love no trust no faith and chance for another MU. What a waste!

Then he will realize how wrongly he placed his trust and then he will realize the value of her.



I think this is a long drawn track. The issue is complex and cannot be resolved by simply talking about it. It has to be resolved thru action.

Jalal has to show thru his actions that he trusts Jodha. He can't do that sitting in Amer. He has to do this in Agra. And Jodha cannot learn to trust him and learn that he trusts her until she sees the same in action at Agra.

Probably the MA conspiracy and Shehnaz mystery have to be solved before this issue is resolved. So the end result may be that they r together but not really. Jo may again enter the ghrina mode and Jalal may keep trying to woo her unsuccessfully. Jo's negative emotions will burn like embers in her heart for a long time, like Jalal carries the negative baggage of the dhakka.

Are the Mathura and Amer tracks wasted then? Not really. They showed that Jo could take care of herself and taught an important lesson to Jalal and Jo's family. They also showed Jodha's concern for Jalal despite her apparent hatred/anger and Jalal's remorse and pain. The Amer track brought them face to face again and showed Jalal that he could count on the Ameri clan in times of trouble. And how can we forget the finance whiz of Akbar - Todarmal - was discovered during the Mathura track.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: preetgurti

[BR]jiya waise bhi its maayiya thing how Mu happen then leads away then hit n miss then ruthna manana and then one episode main all end with confession

yes preet I feel when he living her she suddenly realised she cnt live widout him go n hug him ,this scene happened at airport or railway station in mayyia shows dekho jodha kahan rokti he...
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Posted: 11 years ago
yayy i finally get my sword fight which i so wanted to see 👏👏👏 😭(khushi ki aasu)

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